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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-25-2008 17:09:

Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

What are your thoughts about getting old?

Do you dread it? Do you fear the prospects of your body breaking down, retirement and idleness, fading into irrelevance in the eyes of the young, or the death of your parents, siblings, and friends?

If you imagine yourself as an old person, do you see yourself as tired, boring, depressed, or sick? Nostalgic about better years that have passed you by? What do you think you will be like as an oldster?

The popular wisdom runs that young people who came of age in the '60s and beyond have a dread of old age, as famously expressed by the Rolling Stones in "Mother's Little Helper": "what a drag it is getting old." Supposedly this has some connection to the increasing dominance of youth culture in Western societies, with its emphasis on hedonism, attractiveness, open and unattached sexual expression, spontaneity, and carefree ecstatic partying, all things that have traditionally been considered improper or ridiculous in an old person. The Baby Boomers, this story goes, are still wistful about their youth, and this is why we see an ever-increasing emphasis on products and lifestyles -- exercise, Viagra, anti-aging creams, cosmetic surgeries -- designed to encourage youthful appearance and vigor. Having swallowed whole the ideals of hedonistic culture in their younger days, today's graying hippies have nothing solid to sustain them in their old age, so they turn to palliatives like therapy and consumer products that offer them a youth and energy that in reality is always receding from them.

Thoughts?


Posted by Zoso on Sep-25-2008 17:15:

I don't necessarily dread aging as a whole, as there is nothing I can do about it. I do not, however, look forward to certain aspects of aging, particularly dread diseases (such as cancer, as it runs on my mother's side). In addition to dread diseases, I would say that I don't relish the thought of being an invalid in a nursing home (unless I just has NO clue I was there).

As far as retirement goes, I'm nearly 32 and have fuck all put away for retirement. I still have to get the kids through college and started out in adult life, so I fully expect to be one of those people that has to work in some capacity for the rest of his life. God knows anything I've paid in to Social Security will never be seen!

I don't think I dread death so much as the process. The number of unpleasant ways to die far, far outweighs the pleasant ways.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-25-2008 17:15:

both of my parents look pretty good for their age. my mom looks about 5 or 6 years younger and she hasn't had any work done and my dad looks about his age but his body is in great shape (they are both 56). my mom's whole family (5 bros & sisters) all look ridiculously young for their age so i'm bound to look at least halfway decent when i'm older given the genes i have


i'll probably get plastic surgery though when i'm older. nothing dramatic or completely altering but maybe a little eye lift or something when i'm like late 40's. just to keep sexy and feeling young and have my milf status. but i won't be one of those ridiculous older women who wears things my daughter wears. im really against that it's so obnoxious to see older women with long platinum hair wearing pink juicy pants and huge sunglasses. it's like "um no". lol


Posted by colonelcrisp on Sep-25-2008 17:16:

I cant wait until im old enough to piss my pants again and have someone feel compelled to clean up the mess for me. Not to mention, hitting on 18 year olds when your 60 is "cute", hitting on 18 year olds when your 26 is "creepy"


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 17:17:

i think that the older you get the more comfortable you are with your mortality. When i was young i was really scared of death. Now that i am getting older and more accustomed to burying family and have experienced a lot of loss, i am getting less worried about it and enjoy life as much as i can more. If anything you take less things for granted and appreciate what you do have instead of overly thinking about things you have no control over. (unless you are you)

I think someone should buy you a narrator like in the wonder years for christmas so that everything you do can be accompanied by a deep play by play voice.

im gonna call you Kevin Arnold from now on.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-25-2008 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
I think someone should buy you a narrator like in the wonder years for christmas so that everything you do can be accompanied by a deep play by play voice.

im gonna call you Kevin Arnold from now on.


Posted by XaNaX on Sep-25-2008 17:21:

Re: Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What are your thoughts about getting old?

Do you dread it? Do you fear the prospects of your body breaking down, retirement and idleness, fading into irrelevance in the eyes of the young, or the death of your parents, siblings, and friends?


Yes. There really is nothing good about getting any older after turn 21.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
If you imagine yourself as an old person, do you see yourself as tired, boring, depressed, or sick? Nostalgic about better years that have passed you by? What do you think you will be like as an oldster?


I really try my best not to think about these things


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 17:23:

Re: Re: Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
Yes. There really is nothing good about getting any older after turn 21.



I really try my best not to think about these things


umm no

the older you get the easier it is to get women you would have had no chance with in the young days. You age they stay the same age...also money.


Posted by XaNaX on Sep-25-2008 17:25:

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Originally posted by elFreak
umm no

the older you get the easier it is to get women you would have had no chance with in the young days. You age they stay the same age...also money.


yes that might be valid had I been smart enough to not get married


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-25-2008 17:25:

I hope when i am 60+ i will be having sex with all this white girls.


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 17:28:

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Originally posted by XaNaX
yes that might be valid had I been smart enough to not get married


i did not know this...god damn you must have found a saint. With your consumption habits she must love the shit of you. I get dirty looks when i come home drunk and threaten to beat mine.


Posted by hectorc on Sep-25-2008 17:40:

Used to think that far ahead, but all it would cause was stress. Why bother!??!

The body has gone through some slowing down, but all anyone can do is deal with it, or slow it down. Excercise, and the right diet have become more important. I'm sure other things will become important as time passes. Looking at the rents I see what potential lies ahead, but mortality has not really set in like for some that lost family/friends. Most of my loved ones are still around.......i'll cross those bridges when I get to them.


Posted by XaNaX on Sep-25-2008 17:47:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

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Originally posted by elFreak
i did not know this...god damn you must have found a saint. With your consumption habits she must love the shit of you. I get dirty looks when i come home drunk and threaten to beat mine.


lol well my consumption habits aren't what they used to be. My consumption these days is more to take the edge off of life rather than getting completely shitface wasted and doing lots of partying. Back when I was getting completely twacked she was doing the same so it worked out fine


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 17:58:

i only smoke now...and my woman encourages me to do this because well a sober person watching a pot head can be entertaining. Especially when i decide to eat weird things at all hours.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-25-2008 18:33:

I'm not worried....there is a very slim chance that I will even make it to 60.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-25-2008 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I'm not worried....there is a very slim chance that I will even make it to 60.

Why?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-25-2008 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Why?


stress, diet, smoking, heart attacks run in my family, etc, etc, etc


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin Arnold
I asked myself why. Why would someone question their life? Why do we get old? Why do we become a shell of our former selves when we age? Why? Why? Why? In that moment i lost a part of my innocence and would be changed forever. *cue: The Mommas and The Pappas California Dreaming*


fixed


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-25-2008 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
fixed


Posted by l�cid on Sep-25-2008 19:00:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
yes that might be valid had I been smart enough to not get married

you're married?

you learn something new every day i suppose.


honestly... old age feels so far away for me right now that i can't even imagine realistically what it will be like, therefore i can't fear it (or maybe that's just a defense mechanism).

i'll be 25 next month but sometimes i still feel like i'm 18. i haven't really gone through any major events (such as losing family members or close friends due to old age) that snap the attitude of "life is so short" into my head... and my mom is 61 going on 35, so that alone just gives me a positive attitude about what my life will be like when i'm her age.

i have issues with planning for the future, goals, and expectations. i find it somewhat useless since i can never predict what's going to happen.


Posted by XaNaX on Sep-25-2008 19:02:

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Originally posted by l�cid
you're married?


yep have been for 9 years


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 19:02:

it can happen quick lucid. *knock on wood*. At 61 my grandmother was in amazing shape, and we lost her this week(68). Enjoy every single moment you get with family, it makes the blow much easier to deal with.


Posted by l�cid on Sep-25-2008 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
it can happen quick lucid. *knock on wood*. At 61 my grandmother was in amazing shape, and we lost her this week. Enjoy every single moment you get with family, it makes the blow much easier to deal with.

yeah, i guess i came off sounding a bit naive or oblivious in my post which wasn't really my intention.

i definitely do cherish every moment i get with my family... especially because i only see them a few times per year. it's also a big part of the reason why i want to move back to NY after i'm done with school next year. as i get older, i realize that spending time with her takes precedence over living wherever i want.

my deepest condolences for the loss of your grandmother.


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 19:12:

thanks myra.
we were very lucky to be able to make our peace in her final moments. You are not being naive, and it is great to keep a close relationship with your family.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-25-2008 19:15:

I hope I die young.


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