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Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 15:25:

Since people tend to think it's a trance vs. house war...

I'd like to say that I listened to Mark Norman's new track "Restart" today, and definitely was reminded of the old days when I was crazy about them. It's much more like their classic sound than the commercial stuff they have recently been making. I have at home at least 2 records of them (Phantom Manor/Rush, Stream/Shine/Overkill), and in fact the majority of my record crate is trance. So to all the people who have made the transition from trance to house, what did you used to like?


Posted by TranceLuver4evr on Sep-26-2008 15:37:

I'm a still a fan of trance but I'm starting to enjoy house a lot more than trance...My record crate is still full of trance also. When I first started, I'm only about trance and nothing else. I couldn't stand house or other genre !!

Now days, I'm just a lot more open to other genre of EDM instead of being stuck on trance only!!


Posted by l�cid on Sep-26-2008 15:44:

back when i liked trance, i used to think Mark Norman was one person.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 15:46:

Mark De Jong & Norman Lendennnnnnnnnnn


Posted by Amir Abbasi on Sep-26-2008 16:42:

I hate it when people generalize everything that is not trance as house..what the hell is house..there are tons of genres even though sometimes it is very difficult to make something fit into a specific genre..I think the main ones are techno, minimal, and progressive and electro...house is too vague.


Posted by Scottaculous on Sep-26-2008 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Amir Abbasi
I hate it when people generalize everything that is not trance as house..what the hell is house..there are tons of genres even though sometimes it is very difficult to make something fit into a specific genre..I think the main ones are techno, minimal, and progressive and electro...house is too vague.


sorry... but minimal, progressive and electro are not major genres of edm. it's techno, trance, house, breaks, jungle/drum and bass, downtempo, and hardcore. check out http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ if you're confused.

tbh, i think people are too obsessed with categorizing music. i blame the british for their insufferable need to categorize everything. for they are the ones responsible for dividing house in prog house, minimal house, electro house, disco house, chicago house, etc etc. instead of house with electro sounds, it became electro house. huose with progressive layering of ideas became prog house. even in rock there is such categories as shoegazer rock, glam rock, punk rock, etc... blame the british!

personally, trance lost it for me when the creativity stopped and what came out was this strict formula of rigid structure and overused sounds. not every track needs a supersaw main riff! also, i love basslines and there is more room to be creative with basslines in house than trance. (has to do with the space inbetween kick drums, if anyone cares)


Posted by Amir Abbasi on Sep-26-2008 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
sorry... but minimal, progressive and electro are not major genres of edm. it's techno, trance, house, breaks, jungle/drum and bass, downtempo, and hardcore. check out http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ if you're confused.

tbh, i think people are too obsessed with categorizing music. i blame the british for their insufferable need to categorize everything. for they are the ones responsible for dividing house in prog house, minimal house, electro house, disco house, chicago house, etc etc. instead of house with electro sounds, it became electro house. huose with progressive layering of ideas became prog house. even in rock there is such categories as shoegazer rock, glam rock, punk rock, etc... blame the british!

personally, trance lost it for me when the creativity stopped and what came out was this strict formula of rigid structure and overused sounds. not every track needs a supersaw main riff! also, i love basslines and there is more room to be creative with basslines in house than trance. (has to do with the space inbetween kick drums, if anyone cares)


I was just refering to the opposite of what you are saying..in that house is very different things..I don't care who is to blame for splitting the genre up but they are very distinct sounds now and you have to compare them seperately..I would never catagorize cheesy electro music with tech-house as all the same thing: "house"...


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-26-2008 18:55:

Re: Since people tend to think it's a trance vs. house war...

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
I'd like to say that I listened to Mark Norman's new track "Restart" today, and definitely was reminded of the old days when I was crazy about them. It's much more like their classic sound than the commercial stuff they have recently been making. I have at home at least 2 records of them (Phantom Manor/Rush, Stream/Shine/Overkill), and in fact the majority of my record crate is trance. So to all the people who have made the transition from trance to house, what did you used to like?
Bomb.com


Anyhow i dont enjoy trance anymore... i used to love the morillo style house (maybe i still do i just dont listen to it, but i am sure if i did i would like it) and also the old sander k. The new sander i dont like. Now i like more deep housy tracks and minimal. Techno (the really low bpm one and the high bpm one)


Posted by Caution_BiPolar on Sep-26-2008 19:02:

Maybe I've just been under a rock, but there's no new, fresh sound coming out of trance. Not that I've heard in a long time... if I'm wrong, feel free to make some recommendations, but I have to agree now with my friends who say it all sounds the same.

... then we have house DJ's that seem to be able to encompass a signature sound while also always producing something new and differnt.

That's just my humble opinion.


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 19:34:

Yeah, I used to be all about the lazer/unicorn trance. I never really gave house a chance until I went to WMC. John Digweed, Eric Prydz, James Zabiela, etc got me into it. I could never understand minimal and techno until I experienced Hawtin live, and after that I was hooked.

So yeah, the epic commercial trance did get a little old after awhile, but it was actually experiencing what else was out there that made me stop liking it. I still listen to trance, although now its the more progressive and techy stuff that I like. I think I have a pretty well rounded taste in dance music.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
sorry... but minimal, progressive and electro are not major genres of edm. it's techno, trance, house, breaks, jungle/drum and bass, downtempo, and hardcore. check out http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ if you're confused.

tbh, i think people are too obsessed with categorizing music. i blame the british for their insufferable need to categorize everything. for they are the ones responsible for dividing house in prog house, minimal house, electro house, disco house, chicago house, etc etc. instead of house with electro sounds, it became electro house. huose with progressive layering of ideas became prog house. even in rock there is such categories as shoegazer rock, glam rock, punk rock, etc... blame the british!

personally, trance lost it for me when the creativity stopped and what came out was this strict formula of rigid structure and overused sounds. not every track needs a supersaw main riff! also, i love basslines and there is more room to be creative with basslines in house than trance. (has to do with the space inbetween kick drums, if anyone cares)


quote:
Originally posted by Amir Abbasi
I hate it when people generalize everything that is not trance as house..what the hell is house..there are tons of genres even though sometimes it is very difficult to make something fit into a specific genre..I think the main ones are techno, minimal, and progressive and electro...house is too vague.




Both of you are right. In fact even the History of House on youtube says that the UK is responsible for mainstreaming EDM, thus separating into marketable categories.



quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Bomb.com


You know it!


quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
I never really gave house a chance until I went to WMC. John Digweed, Eric Prydz, James Zabiela, etc got me into it.


Were you at Pryda?


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol

Were you at Pryda?


Unfortunately no, I only got to see Prydz at the Radio 1 party. Looking back, I could shoot myself for not going.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 20:17:

I still haven't shot myself for not going to the pool, but I should have. The epicity of Pryda was just too much for Tom and I to stay awake


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-26-2008 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
Yeah, I used to be all about the lazer/unicorn trance. I never really gave house a chance until I went to WMC. John Digweed, Eric Prydz, James Zabiela, etc got me into it. I could never understand minimal and techno until I experienced Hawtin live, and after that I was hooked.

So yeah, the epic commercial trance did get a little old after awhile, but it was actually experiencing what else was out there that made me stop liking it. I still listen to trance, although now its the more progressive and techy stuff that I like. I think I have a pretty well rounded taste in dance music.
Where did you see zabiela?


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
I still haven't shot myself for not going to the pool, but I should have. The epicity of Pryda was just too much for Tom and I to stay awake

Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to catch him at afters this year.

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09

Where did you see zabiela?

Saw him at the One Plus One Party, and also caught a little bit of his set at Ultra.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-26-2008 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to catch him at afters this year.


Saw him at the One Plus One Party, and also caught a little bit of his set at Ultra.
Me and sam where there


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 21:34:

Oh shit, too bad I didn't know you guys then. That set was a mindfuck.

Wish I could have seen him at the pool, too.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-26-2008 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
Oh shit, too bad I didn't know you guys then. That set was a mindfuck.

Wish I could have seen him at the pool, too.
Ya it was sick... idid you stick for after their set? Some guys came on and started playing some sick minimal. I enjoyed the set of zabiela and nic but the guys after them were more bomb imo.


Posted by Ted Promo on Sep-26-2008 21:57:

I got into electronic music back in 2003/2004 so of course my favorites are tracks from that time.

Motorcycle - yeaheayhasefjklhsdf
Enmass - CQ
Deepsky that Markus Schmultz remix

the Coldharbour twinkleprog and Tijschrist 2003/2004 sets. The more darkish *prog* sound of that time I guess. I also used to listen to ASOT like a mofugga.

Now I'm into downtempo/dubstep/triphop/experimental/lo-fi/neo-folk. Woowoo!


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Ya it was sick... idid you stick for after their set? Some guys came on and started playing some sick minimal. I enjoyed the set of zabiela and nic but the guys after them were more bomb imo.


Nah...we rolled out like right after zabs and nic were done. I remember getting so sick that night.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Me and sam where there


Indeed we were! And imo, that was the best show we went to all conference.

quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to catch him at afters this year.


Depending on money, I may be flying down to see him at Space. Wanna' comez?


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-26-2008 23:18:

If I have the money then, I would love to. Whens the date again?


Posted by iammesol on Sep-26-2008 23:37:

October 25th, the saturday of when he was supposed to come here


Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-27-2008 06:10:

Most people who have seen me post before on the subject know how I feel. Even though I have evolved a bit in the 4 years I've been listening to this type of music, I honestly don't think house will ever replace my love for trance. Even though trance may not have anything new and fresh all the time, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I think there is enough good, new stuff coming out that I don't ever get bored with it. There are a handful of house tracks, and other genres for that matter, I really do enjoy, but it will never come close to the number of trance songs I like. You know, when I saw Deadmau5, I really enjoyed it, but then when I went and saw Markus Schultz, I was once again reminded why trance is what I love.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-27-2008 07:16:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iammesol
Indeed we were! And imo, that was the best show we went to all conference.



Depending on money, I may be flying down to see him at Space. Wanna' comez? [/QUOTEYou missed the M_nus aniversary party with hawtin... that was the beefcake for me


Magda, Houle, Hawtin, Corola


*jizz*


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