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Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 03:23:
Public vs Private Unis
Anyone have any good reasons for going one way or the other? I am starting school in Jan at a jc just to get the Gen Ed out of the way and transfer credits, but I am torn on whether to look at going to a public or private uni.
Cost is not a serious difference as UCLA, Stanford, and USC are all at 36kish/yr.
Posted by Sunsnail on Oct-06-2008 03:25:
public community ftw!
3k/year
Posted by djcami on Oct-06-2008 03:26:
Re: Public vs Private Unis
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Anyone have any good reasons for going one way or the other? I am starting school in Jan at a jc just to get the Gen Ed out of the way and transfer credits, but I am torn on whether to look at going to a public or private uni.
Cost is not a serious difference as UCLA, Stanford, and USC are all at 36kish/yr. |
out of those three i'd most definetely suggest you go to Stanford if thats an option. i'd say Stanford has a better reputation academically alhtough i'm sure some people will disagree with me.
Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-06-2008 03:26:
Whoever has the reputation in the course you want to do.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 03:27:
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
public community ftw!
3k/year |
lol "jc" = community college.

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Originally posted by djcami
out of those three i'd most definetely suggest you go to Stanford if thats an option. i'd say Stanford has a better reputation academically alhtough i'm sure some people will disagree with me. |
It all depends on the field, but in my case that would be 100% true.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 03:29:
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Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Whoever has the reputation in the course you want to do. |
Well I am already aware of that, but I was just curious as if anyone knows anything that would sway me either way. USC, UCLA, Stanford, CalPoly San Louis Obispo, UC Berkely, SDSU, etc all have a very high reputation for MechEng majors. That is a mix of private and public in that list. They all have quite comprehensive programs too. Was looking at them all last night.
Posted by Protege on Oct-06-2008 03:42:
If you can afford it, go private. If not, go public.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 03:52:
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Originally posted by Protege
If you can afford it, go private. If not, go public. |
That is the thing, cost wise they are basically the same.
Stanford, if you consider all the fees (they also include a 12k housing figure in this fee) is 52k. UCLA, not including housing, is 38k. They are basically the same. So cost is kind of moot between them.
Posted by Palladium on Oct-06-2008 04:01:
how about no uni at all
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:02:
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Originally posted by Palladium
how about no uni at all |
This is not an option for an engineer.
Posted by BoReD365247 on Oct-06-2008 04:20:
If cost isn't an issue then I would say go to the best school out of the list. At least from what I've seen personally here in Texas that seems to be the biggest issue, for instance I paid 3.5K per semester for tutition alone at UT (public school) but at Rice per semester you're talking 15K/semester.
Also another thing is that if you have free rent at a school nearby, then go there because having bills is never fun (i.e., parents).
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:24:
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Originally posted by BoReD365247
If cost isn't an issue then I would say go to the best school out of the list. At least from what I've seen personally here in Texas that seems to be the biggest issue, for instance I paid 3.5K per semester for tutition alone at UT (public school) but at Rice per semester you're talking 15K/semester.
Also another thing is that if you have free rent at a school nearby, then go there because having bills is never fun (i.e., parents). |
Well I will have to finance this (fucking practically taking out a damn mortgage for some areas of the US!) but being that the area I am considering specializing in (Nuclear MechEng) makes a boat load (really any MechEng specialty makes a boat load) I am not worried about that.
Posted by BoReD365247 on Oct-06-2008 04:31:
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Well I will have to finance this (fucking practically taking out a damn mortgage for some areas of the US!) |
I'm guilty of this. Hopefully I can make said boat load b/c after UT and Law School at a private uni...lets just say I was already contemplating selling my left kidney in eastern europe when I was there this past summer studying abroad.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:34:
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Originally posted by BoReD365247
I'm guilty of this. Hopefully I can make said boat load b/c after UT and Law School at a private uni...lets just say I was already contemplating selling my left kidney in eastern europe when I was there this past summer studying abroad. |
LOL yeah. I am not doing all my schooling at the uni so that is saving me a ton, but I know I will not leave with less than 100k in loans.
Posted by BoReD365247 on Oct-06-2008 04:35:
I think after all is said and done I'll be down 140K. Then its off to whoring myself for a job.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:36:
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Originally posted by BoReD365247
I think after all is said and done I'll be down 140K. Then its off to whoring myself for a job. |
Ouch! Although I see myself being around there too.
Especially if I go to Stanford. I figure 2-3 years to finish my undergrad. I am going to try to work as much as possible while doing it, but I have no clue how much that will be.
Posted by Palladium on Oct-06-2008 04:37:
140k for a degree sounds crazy
you should very pissed if you do 30k a year after that
Posted by BoReD365247 on Oct-06-2008 04:39:
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Originally posted by Palladium
140k for a degree sounds crazy
you should very pissed if you do 30k a year after that |
It's two degrees. 25K(UT) +115K (law school). I hope to be making around 70K at least out of law school. It's a low goal but its taking into consideration I don't go to a very well known law school.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:41:
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Originally posted by Palladium
140k for a degree sounds crazy
you should very pissed if you do 30k a year after that |
lol if you spend that much, you usually have a job waiting for you that pays relatively well. I know that if I go to Stanford, UCLA, USC, UC Berkely, or the likes, I will.
Posted by JD8180 on Oct-06-2008 04:46:
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
lol if you spend that much, you usually have a job waiting for you that pays relatively well. I know that if I go to Stanford, UCLA, USC, UC Berkely, or the likes, I will. |
and with the way things are now, being practically guaranteed a job is a nice feeling.
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:48:
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Originally posted by JD8180
and with the way things are now, being practically guaranteed a job is a nice feeling. |
Yeah for sure. Especially if you can go ANYWHERE in the world and do what you want to do.
Posted by nchs09 on Oct-06-2008 04:48:
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
public community ftw!
3k/year |
Public university ftw
3k a semester.
University has a nicer ring
Posted by Domesticated on Oct-06-2008 04:49:
Wasn't your family on welfare?
Did you win the lotto or something?
Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-06-2008 04:52:
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Originally posted by nchs09
Public university ftw
3k a semester.
University has a nicer ring |
Public uni is that cheap if you go to random university, but if you want to get somewhere fast in your field you go to something more well known. I find it to be a crock of shit, as you can be just as well rounded and articulate going to some lesser known uni as if you went to Stanford or the likes.
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Originally posted by Domesticated
Wasn't your family on welfare?
Did you win the lotto or something? |
Mine? As a kid yes, but we got off when I was around 13 or 14. And no I didn't win the lottery. I am just aiming for a goal in the next 2 years to accomplish. Is that a bad thing? I will have to take out 100k+ in loans, but fuck it. The price I will pay to make minimum 80k+/yr to start, is worth it.
Posted by Domesticated on Oct-06-2008 05:06:
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I am just aiming for a goal in the next 2 years to accomplish. Is that a bad thing? I will have to take out 100k+ in loans, but fuck it. |
No, I think that's very admirable.
I'm just surprised that someone from a welfare background is talking about such huge amounts of money for education, which can be daunting even for wealthy families.
Personally, I wouldn't want that kind of debt hanging over my head.
I'd rather start on $35,000 and work my way up, so that four years later when my alternate reality self has finished university and is earning $80,000 a year, I'm earning $70,000 a year and have saved $20,000, taking me $120,000 ahead of my competitor and only losing out by $10,000 per year, meaning it will take him 12 years to catch up, provided the ratio between our salaries remains the same.
It depends on what you want to do though. If you want to become a solicitor or an engineer, then of course you need education, but if you're interested in something like real estate, it's possible to work your way up and outdo people with a better education that you on pure intelligence and hard work.
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