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Xone 92 + 2 CDJ 200s or...
Deciding whether to buy a Xone 92 + 2 CDJ 200s or a Xone 42 + 2 CDJ 800s. They're around the same price range.
My first choice was to buy a Xone 42 + 2 CDJ 400s which is around $700 cheaper but I thought since Im spending this much money, why not spend it on something really good.
Which setup would you rather buy?
Just an entry level DJ and these will be my first mixers + CDJs. They will be my parents christmas gift to me. I'm planning to play in just my friends house parties.
Also, what's the difference between a normal xone 92 and the xone 92 with rotary faders, which is around $350 more expensive?
Can't wait.
A simple Google will answer your question about rotary vs. regular faders.
IMO the 92 is just too much mixer for a beginner setup, a 42 or even a 32 should suit you just fine. In fact, there are plenty of awesome mixers out there priced way below the Allen and Heaths, have you considered an Ecler, Vestax, Rane, Pioneer, etc?
Have you ever set hands on any of these units? You might want to before you go spending 3 grand.
Don't forget about proper headphones and DJ monitors if applicable, a desk, etc.
Are you familar with Serato, Traktor, or Torq. Google the ******s, they are great programs to learn on.
I guess I'd just slow down a bit, make sure you really want to learn to DJ. Even if you are committed you don't need to spend 3 grand for a beginner setup. There are tons of different configurations out there, find the one that's right for you, not the one that's right for the people in the DJ Booth forum.
I would get a xone 92 + 2 cdj-200 by far.
with that setup you probably won't need to upgrade in 10 years.
I would go for the 42 + CDJ 800's. The CDJ 800's are far more powerful than the 200's as they have vinyl emulation and they feel very close to the 1000's so you'll be able to play on a high end professional setup with no time for adjustment.
Both of those mixers are pretty much "end game," and you won't really need to upgrade them ever, but you might find yourself getting tired of the cdj 200's at some point.
Either way you can't go wrong.
cdj 800s and xone 62,
no fancy effects, just simple bare boned goodness
Don't write off the CDJ-400's just yet either, they are quite nice. Personally I'd take them over the 800's.
The jog is smaller, but it's still got vinyl emulation. Going from 1000's->800's->400's jog wheels is not an issue.
You also get better pitch precision with the CDJ-400, plus effects, MIDI, USB playback support, and it's native mode support in Serato is freaking GREAT. I have the 1000's, and after playing on my friends 400's/Serato setup I was very impressed.
I think the Xone 42 is great as well. And you get the integrated sound card in it for recording your sets. Pretty nice. And the effects loop on the 42 stomps all over the 92's.
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| Originally posted by Sadface I would go for the 42 + CDJ 800's. The CDJ 800's are far more powerful than the 200's as they have vinyl emulation and they feel very close to the 1000's so you'll be able to play on a high end professional setup with no time for adjustment. |
Tough choice. I would always recommend getting a better mixer first as that is where the actual mixing will happen. With the 200's +/-6% you will have 1000 style accuracy, you'll just have to deal with the crap interface.
CDJs lose value quickly, every time new models come out, I just sold 2 1000mk2 for a grand.
The mixer will keep its value far longer.
In all though, the 42 is a solid choice and you should be fine with that for a while also.
I think you have it backwards.. industry standard CDJ's will hold value. Mixers drop value.
My CDJ 200's + ecler nuo 2 mixer sold for $1000. Shit loads of PM's / emails (from craigslist) wanting my "outdated" cdj's.. all would have paid $750.
*shrug*
Jay
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| Originally posted by Clovis I just sold 2 1000mk2 for a grand. |
I don't get why people are still talking about CDJ-200s. The CDJ-400s are far better and are even preferred over the current CDJ-800s by some people (unless of course you want a massive jog wheel 
). They don't cost that much more than the 200s anyway so I would recommend the 400s.
As far as mixer goes, if you have the money go for it but I do agree that 92 is overkill to start off with, especially since you can't be sure what you will really want until later.
I bought a brand DXM 06 for $279 (below cost) when it retails for $600 over in Aus but I got lucky
Even if I had the money I wouldn't have got anything better because I simply can't say right now whether I would want a 92, DJM800, Zero8 or even a 3D.
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| Originally posted by Fledz I don't get why people are still talking about CDJ-200s. The CDJ-400s are far better and are even preferred over the current CDJ-800s by some people (unless of course you want a massive jog wheel ). They don't cost that much more than the 200s anyway so I would recommend the 400s.As far as mixer goes, if you have the money go for it but I do agree that 92 is overkill to start off with, especially since you can't be sure what you will really want until later. I bought a brand DXM 06 for $279 (below cost) when it retails for $600 over in Aus but I got lucky Even if I had the money I wouldn't have got anything better because I simply can't say right now whether I would want a 92, DJM800, Zero8 or even a 3D. |
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| Originally posted by veezee I bought my cdj 200's at the time when there were no cdj 400's. Back then and still to this day, I don't think I need anything more as I don't scratch and the efx on any cdj are tired and boring. If I were to buy another cdj, sure it would probably be the 400 only cause of the serato compatibility, price , and the great pitch resolution in comparison to the big boys. With that being said, the 200's are "talked" about still, because for the price, you can't get another cdj that matches the build quality. Jay |
Ok me and my mom finally went to the shop to check out the gear.
We decided on a non rotary Xone 92 and CDJ 400s.
That alone costs 4410 Singapore dollars which is 2975 USD and 2117 pounds. Along with speakers and sennheiser hd 25 mk2, all in all it's 5300 singapore dollars. I decided not to go with the sennheiser hd 25 mk 2 first since I could use my normal headphones anyway. I'll just slowly save up for the sennheisers. Tough economic times nowadays. 
I'll be buying the gear in November or December.
However, I'd like to know if I could get the xone 92 for a cheaper price and where? If I buy it in london, will it be cheaper than buying it here? The Xone 92 here is 2650 singapore dollars, which is 1787 USD and 1058 british pounds.
You think I could get it much cheaper if I buy it from the UK or the USA + shipping costs or should I just buy one here? Any trustworthy stores/sites which deliver worldwide? All I know of is westenddj.co.uk.
Some advice would be appreciated.
I got my Xone 92 + Xone XD 53 headphones (worth 140 odd Sterling, it's a promotional offer they're doing) for �910 from www.decks.co.uk
Your only problem is customs.
You will probably get stung for customs if you have them shipped out to you. Unless you know someone in the UK could get them to break the packaging down and send it as a gift. Though this could still maybe get stung by customs.
Also not sure if the warranty would hold up for you then? Maybe A&H have an international warranty i'm not sure.
Nice choice of gear though.
I love the way your mum came along Watch out, she might start getting interested in mixing. I know my dad has taken a keen interest into what i've been doing.
Though when the techno starts pumping he takes a back seat and waits for the more mellow stuff to come back on.
steve
Wow...that's cheap. 999 for the Xone 92 AND the XD 53. That here would cost �1250. Unfortunately, decks.co.uk say they don't deliver outside the UK & Ireland.
What could be my problem with customs though?
An option I have is to get my mate who's going to london to buy it there so I could save around 500 singapore dollars. Still gotta check with westend dj with their worldwide delivery service. I'll await their response to my email today.
Oh and my dad doesn't give a shit about this. It's my mom who's paying anyway. 
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| Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol Wow...that's cheap. 999 for the Xone 92 AND the XD 53. That here would cost �1250. Unfortunately, decks.co.uk say they don't deliver outside the UK & Ireland. What could be my problem with customs though? An option I have is to get my mate who's going to london to buy it there so I could save around 500 singapore dollars. Still gotta check with westend dj with their worldwide delivery service. I'll await their response to my email today. Oh and my dad doesn't give a shit about this. It's my mom who's paying anyway. |
I can't speak Singapore, but check the used market. You might be able to save some real coin.
Also I'd be happy to ship you a US Xone if the exchange rates work out.
if you don't need 4 channels, you might want to consider a less expensive 2 or 3 channel mixer. thsi would save money for better headphones, speakers, and possibly a desk as someone else pointed out.
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| Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol Ok me and my mom finally went to the shop to check out the gear. We decided on a non rotary Xone 92 and CDJ 400s. That alone costs 4410 Singapore dollars which is 2975 USD and 2117 pounds. Along with speakers and sennheiser hd 25 mk2, all in all it's 5300 singapore dollars. I decided not to go with the sennheiser hd 25 mk 2 first since I could use my normal headphones anyway. I'll just slowly save up for the sennheisers. Tough economic times nowadays. I'll be buying the gear in November or December. However, I'd like to know if I could get the xone 92 for a cheaper price and where? If I buy it in london, will it be cheaper than buying it here? The Xone 92 here is 2650 singapore dollars, which is 1787 USD and 1058 british pounds. You think I could get it much cheaper if I buy it from the UK or the USA + shipping costs or should I just buy one here? Any trustworthy stores/sites which deliver worldwide? All I know of is westenddj.co.uk. Some advice would be appreciated. |
see if you can get your friend to get the tax refund on the mixer if he's willing to carry it back from the uk for you, 900 pounds roughly, then claim baxck the 17.5% VAT.
Most countries have a limit on what you can carry back from o/s without paying local customs duties, but I've never seen that declaration in Sg immigration forms nor had anyone ask such a question there.
it is a bit of running around but could be worth it
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| Originally posted by Sadface I would go for the 42 + CDJ 800's. The CDJ 800's are far more powerful than the 200's as they have vinyl emulation and they feel very close to the 1000's so you'll be able to play on a high end professional setup with no time for adjustment. |
I actually can't wait to get my gear. When I thought about the 42 I was like 'why not go all the way on the first purchase so I don't have to upgrade?' I will continue DJing for house parties and stuff cause right now all I use is Ableton.
400s vs 800s, thought that the only difference was the size of the jog wheel and since I won't scratch a lot anyway, I won't need the bigger jog wheel. The 400 also has the USB which is really useful and quite a necessity nowadays.
All in all im getting the Xone 92 linear, 2 CDJ 400s, KRK speakers and the sennheisher hd 25s mk2. I'm so psyched. Thanks to all. I'll be posting pics in the future.
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