TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Political Discussion / Debate
-- A Glimpse Into The Psyche Of McCain/Palin Supporters
Pages (4): [1] 2 3 4 »
A Glimpse Into The Psyche Of McCain/Palin Supporters
wow...
Wow fucking assholes.
Damnit you beat me to the thread.
| quote: |
| Panic attacks: Voters unload at GOP rallies A McCain supporter yells at Obama supporters before McCain and Palin arrive at a rally, Oct. 8, 2008, in Strongsville, Ohio. Photo: AP The unmistakable momentum behind Barack Obama's campaign, combined with worry that John McCain is not doing enough to stop it, is ratcheting up fears and frustrations among conservatives. And nowhere is this emotion on plainer display than at Republican rallies, where voters this week have shouted out insults at the mention of Obama, pleaded with McCain to get more aggressive with the Democrat and generally demonstrated the sort of visceral anger and unease that reflects a party on the precipice of panic. The calendar is closing and the polls, at least right now, are not. With McCain passing up the opportunity to level any tough personal shots in his first two debates and the very real prospect of an Obama presidency setting in, the sort of hard-core partisan activists who turn out for campaign events are venting in unusually personal terms. "Terrorist!� one man screamed Monday at a New Mexico rally after McCain voiced the campaign�s new rhetorical staple aimed at raising doubts about the Illinois senator: �Who is the real Barack Obama?� "He's a damn liar!� yelled a woman Wednesday in Pennsylvania. "Get him. He's bad for our country." At both stops, there were cries of, �Nobama,� picking up on a phrase that has appeared on yard signs, t-shirts and bumper stickers. And Thursday, at a campaign town hall in Wisconsin, one Republican brought the crowd to their feet when he used his turn at the microphone to offer a soliloquy so impassioned it made the network news and earned extended play on Rush Limbaugh�s program. �I�m mad, I�m really mad!� the voter bellowed. �And what�s going to surprise ya, is it�s not the economy � it�s the socialists taking over our country.� After the crowd settled down he was back at it. �When you have an Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there gonna run this country, we gotta have our head examined!� Such contempt for Democrats is, of course, nothing new from conservative activists. But in 2000 and 2004, the Republican rank-and-file was more apt to ridicule Gore as a stiff fabulist or Kerry as an effete weathervane of a politician. �Flip-flop, flip-flop,� went the cry at Republican rallies four years ago, often with footwear to match the chant. Now, though, the emotion on display is unadulterated anger rather than mocking. Activists outside rallies openly talk about Obama as a terrorist, citing his name and purported ties to Islam in the fashion of the viral emails that have rocketed around the Internet for over a year now. Some of this activity is finding its way into the events, too. On Thursday, as one man in the audience asked a question about Obama�s associations, the crowd erupted in name-calling. "Obama Osama!" one woman called out. And twice this week, local officials have warmed up the crowd by railing against �Barack Hussein Obama.� Both times, McCain�s campaign has issued statements disavowing the use of the Democrat�s full name. A McCain aide said they tell individuals speaking before every event not to do so. �Sometimes people just do what they want,� explained the aide. The raw emotions worry some in the party who believe the broader swath of swing voters are far more focused on their dwindling retirement accounts than on Obama�s background and associations and will be turned off by footage of the McCain events. John Weaver, McCain�s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior. �People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Senator Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Senator McCain,� Weaver said. �And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.� �Senator Obama is a classic liberal with an outdated economic agenda. We should take that agenda on in a robust manner. As a party we should not and must not stand by as the small amount of haters in our society question whether he is as American as the rest of us. Shame on them and shame on us if we allow this to take hold.� But, if it were up to them, such hard-edged tactics are clearly what many in the party base would like to use against Obama. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14445.html |
Those videos are terrifying.
Fuckin hell they don't like us Europeans do they?! The BBC showed similar clips the other day with McCain's mentalist supporters screaming at nothing really in particular. One guy said Obama will please the Europeans as he turns the country into socialist!
If Obama were elected in a European country he'd probably be considered as right wing as Berlusconi!!
It is scary tho that half of the American population (that vote anyway) seem to be made up of these rightwing lunatics, don't even wanna think about what they'll be getting upto once Obama has actually won!
| quote: |
| Originally posted by George Smiley It is scary tho that half of the American population (that vote anyway) seem to be made up of these rightwing lunatics, don't even wanna think about what they'll be getting upto once Obama has actually won! |
To be fair... if one were to go to an Obama rally and ask a bunch of supporters similarly crafted questions on video and then edit it down to just the most outlandish of the respondents you could put together clips of equally idiotic sounding people.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Moral Hazard To be fair... if one were to go to an Obama rally and ask a bunch of supporters similarly crafted questions on video and then edit it down to just the most outlandish of the respondents you could put together clips of equally idiotic sounding people. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Zild Maybe, and I would like to see it, but I haven't seen a large mass of Obama supporters spouting off straight hate in such a vulgar fashion. |
I don't support either of the candidates. I can clearly see that these people are using hate maybe out of desperation, but probably because they are racist bigots.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Zild I don't support either of the candidates. I can clearly see that these people are using hate maybe out of desperation, but probably because they are racist bigots. |
| quote: |
| From the Journal ... Some McCain campaign officials are becoming concerned about the hostility that attacks against Sen. Obama are whipping up among Republican supporters. During an internal conference call Thursday, campaign officials discussed how the tenor of the crowds has turned on the media and on Sen. Obama. Borderline criminal incitement will do that. But hey, whatever it takes. Late Update: Joe Klein is getting concerned too. (ed.note: This is not a laughing matter. So I want to be clear what I was alluding to when I referred to "borderline criminal incitement." John McCain has a first amendment right to smear and (at least free of criminal penalties) slander Barack Obama by suggesting he's in league with terrorists. But as we've seen many times, even offhandedly threatening comments directed at a Secret Service protected individual, can earn you a visit from the guys with the earpieces. And McCain and Palin are now routinely holding rallies in which they whip supporters into such a delirium by castigating Obama as a dangerous terrorist-lover that members of the audience shout what can very reasonably be interpreted as threats against Obama's safety. Am I saying they're breaking the law? No. But I do think they're nudging up against the envelope and getting near that line beyond which, if McCain were not a presidential candidate, his rallies would be getting some attention from those charged with protecting Obama's safety.) |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Moral Hazard To be fair... if one were to go to an Obama rally and ask a bunch of supporters similarly crafted questions on video and then edit it down to just the most outlandish of the respondents you could put together clips of equally idiotic sounding people. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 Not really. I challenge you to find anybody at an Obama rally calling McCain the equivalent of a terrorist and one step away from saying he should be killed. These people are just asking for someone to provide the rope! Its an angry mob and I wonder if McCain will be able to keep them under control. If there were anyone like this at an Obama rally it would immediately make the front page. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Zild I don't support either of the candidates. I can clearly see that these people are using hate maybe out of desperation, but probably because they are racist bigots. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by diggerz well, everyone is racist. you can't just jump out of the 'norm', everyone sees the difference in race. no matter how much you try to fucking hide it and what not, you have to stand up for what you believe... it's not that obama is a bad candidate and i'm not against him because of racial differences, i'm just not into 'left-ish' ideologies. if that man wins, they will not allow US, THE ENTREPRENEURS, THE BUSINESS MINDED to go forward with our ideas because THEY will think we are trying to take over the market. they will abuse their anti-monopoly laws and they will overly-tax private industries if they are making more money than others. so fucking what it's called competition and it's no man's world out there so you better get used to getting your hands dirty or you'll go down like the rest.... how can you possibly vote for someone who plans on sipping tea with fucking communists? i'll tell you what, you don't know anything about communism...i do, my parents went through a terrible communist take-over in nicaragua. they made it through pretty well, my dad was a hard working man...and now, this! shame on you, america...shame! |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by diggerz how can you possibly vote for someone who plans on sipping tea with fucking communists? i'll tell you what, you don't know anything about communism...i do, my parents went through a terrible communist take-over in nicaragua. they made it through pretty well, my dad was a hard working man...and now, this! shame on you, america...shame! |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I didn't say you'd find the exact same words being used... just the same level if idiocy. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 Ah I see, the "same level of idiocy" is relative to the observer. My point of view these GOP base mobs are fairly high on the idiocy meters. Be pretty hard for anyone to match. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by diggerz well, everyone is racist. you can't just jump out of the 'norm', everyone sees the difference in race. no matter how much you try to fucking hide it and what not, you have to stand up for what you believe... it's not that obama is a bad candidate and i'm not against him because of racial differences, i'm just not into 'left-ish' ideologies. if that man wins, they will not allow US, THE ENTREPRENEURS, THE BUSINESS MINDED to go forward with our ideas because THEY will think we are trying to take over the market. they will abuse their anti-monopoly laws and they will overly-tax private industries if they are making more money than others. so fucking what it's called competition and it's no man's world out there so you better get used to getting your hands dirty or you'll go down like the rest.... how can you possibly vote for someone who plans on sipping tea with fucking communists? i'll tell you what, you don't know anything about communism...i do, my parents went through a terrible communist take-over in nicaragua. they made it through pretty well, my dad was a hard working man...and now, this! shame on you, america...shame! |
Here are the flags that America will be flying once our proxy has won the election...
| quote: |
| Originally posted by George Smiley Here are the flags that America will be flying once our proxy has won the election... |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I tend to agree in that I suspect the volume of idiots is likely higher at republican party functions; however, I'm sure you'd find the odd idiot at a democratic party function that would match in magnitude. The point is; with selective editing you could make a video to make Obama supporters appear equally ridiculous. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 My point is thats not the case with these GOP base rallies. Its all of them. It is not a few people that were put together to make one video. The whole crowd is chanting these slogans and getting angry. This is mob mentality. |
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.