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Blizzcon thread (D3 / SC2 info)

I'll be using this thread in a blog-like fashion, updating posts with new info and links as they arise. Feel free to do the same. This will be a good hub of info for those who aren't as obsessed as I am and don't feel like struggling with blurry half-comprehensible shots and unstable servers.

- New D3 class announced: Wizzard

Screenshots: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/med...eenshots.xml#54
Video (will most likely be up on blizzard's website shortly): http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/265/Diablo-3-Gameplay

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/


Looks like the wizzard is replacing the sorceress/mage. In the video we see a female wizzard using several lightning-based skills - chain lightning, charged bolts, as well as various other projectiles. I also noticed tornadoes - which is bad news for druid fans.

The skills look similar in function to their D1 and D2 equivalents, however more graphically pleasing and much faster to execute - which I like. Projectiles zoom across the screen very quickly (much faster than they did in D2). There also seems to be somekind of hold-fire lightning stream somewhat similar to Diablo's lightning inferno skill. Other abilities include protective spells - bubble-like shields, among other things. Looks like a fun class to play.

Apparently the wizzard has many new spells that involve manipulating time and space.

If skills in D2 follow the D2-style 3-tab structure, it looks like the wizzard's skills won't be seperated into individual elements (fire / cold / lightning). We've already seen skills related to fire, possibly an ice nova, tornadoes, lightning and several "miscelaneous" magic attacks that seem to be display as somesort of glowing purple energy.

Blizzard just uploaded a shitty in-game video (different from the gameplay vid I posted in the OP).

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/wizard.xml

It's cheesy as hell. I'm hoping they won't have too many in-game stuff like this in the final release. It contains a lot of really good gameplay footage toward the end though, so definately worth watching.

Very interresting article about the new skill system. Contains a short narrated video at the end explaining specific applications of the skill system.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55258

Basicly, rather than only being boosted by skill points, individual abilities can be improved in 2 dimentions. With each skill point assigned, their stats are modified (much like the D1/D2 system). Second, skills can be boosted by runes which assign specific characteristics to the skill. In one of the examples shown, a "multishot" rune is added to flaming skull (previousely named fire bomb in the announcement demo), thus making the skull bounce on impact and causing damage to a greater area. Then, that very same rune is applied to the wizzard's lightning skill, turning it into chain lightning (bounces from one target to the other).

New starcraft 2 screens:


looks like terran siege tanks, hellions (previousely jackals) and nighthawks (previousely nomads)

hellions toasting zerglings

Starcraft II to be released in 3 parts

While all three races are to be fully playable in multiplayer, the singleplayer campaign will feature only terrans, with a comparable ammount of missions spread out over one campaign rather than three seperate ones. Subsequently, two expansion sets are to be released at a later time, adding the zerg and protoss campaigns respectively.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55267

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I'm pretty dissapointed. This is something I would expect from EA, not blizzard. However, the justification seems to be a quicker release date, and with the devellopment time pushing 5 years, they presumably want to get this on the shelves ASAP.

Still...

wizard is fucking awesome.

im gonna try the doctor today. sc2 is fucking wicked.

if you guys want me to check some shit out for you or ask questions to the devs or anything liket hat

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Originally posted by Project-K Starcraft II to be released in 3 parts While all three races are to be fully playable in multiplayer, the singleplayer campaign will feature only terrans, with a comparable ammount of missions spread out over one campaign rather than three seperate ones. Subsequently, two expansion sets are to be released at a later time, adding the zerg and protoss campaigns respectively. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55267 I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I'm pretty dissapointed. This is something I would expect from EA, not blizzard. However, the justification seems to be a quicker release date, and with the devellopment time pushing 5 years, they presumably want to get this on the shelves ASAP. Still...

Seems somewhat fair enough, although really the zerg/protoss campaigns should be release together.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Seems somewhat fair enough, although really the zerg/protoss campaigns should be release together.

As I understand it, the idea is to have every campaign be much more develloped. So instead of having ~30 missions spread out as 10 terran / 10 zerg / 10 protoss, we're going to get ~30 terran / ~30 zerg / ~30 protoss for a total of ~90 missions. This way they can release the game as soon as the terran campaign is done, then release the zerg campaign as soon as that's done - as opposed to having to wait over a year longer just to have everything.

Yes but it makes sense that you pay extra for extended singleplayer together instead of 2 fricken seperate expansions, regardless.

Blizzard Activision's trollin' the gamers. First these "expansions" and now certain aspects of Battle.net not being free for D3.

Can anyone see the real 'Brood War-like' expansion on the horizon? That's right. There're three of them.

there were 3 expansions for dawn of war. dark crusade didn't even have a real campaign or anything. i haven't played soulstorm but i think it's the same style. with this you would be getting pretty much 3 separate games with full stories, voice acting, movies etc. it's still a bit of a bummer not getting everything in one go but with the exploration aspect and getting a big long campaign and narrative for each faction instead of having to squeeze it into one package i'm looking forward to this more than before now.

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Originally posted by Yan Blizzard Activision's trollin' the gamers. First these "expansions" and now certain aspects of Battle.net not being free for D3.

They would've been well within their rights to charge monthly fees for bnet2 access, but instead they decided to keep it free and instead have microtransactions for extra features that you're in no way obligated to purchase. I don't see what the problem is.

new cinematic:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41396.html

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Originally posted by Yan Blizzard Activision's trollin' the gamers. First these "expansions" and now certain aspects of Battle.net not being free for D3. Can anyone see the real 'Brood War-like' expansion on the horizon? That's right. There're three of them.

I WILL ACCEPT EVERYTHING BLIZZARD TELLS ME.

I LOVE BLIZZARD AND WILL GLADLY DIE FOR THEM.

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Originally posted by Project-K They would've been well within their rights to charge monthly fees for bnet2 access, but instead they decided to keep it free and instead have microtransactions for extra features that you're in no way obligated to purchase. I don't see what the problem is.

They're well within their rights to do whatever they'd like with their own IPs. WoW has shown them that there are plenty of people out there who'll lap up anything they dish out.

Not enough information can be taken from the way it was presented: "We are going to monetize features so that we get to make them," said Wilson. "We kind of have to."

That means that they could charge people to play Ladder or Hardcore modes. Or simply make your character nowhere near the top unless you purchase the best equipment (then it'd be a microtransaction). Either way, this is terrible news for the Diabloverse.

Wow, I cannot believe that you guys are actually ok with the game being released in multiple parts. Seems like something Blizzard would never have done. To be honest, this changes my perspectives on SC2 somewhat.

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Originally posted by zokissima Wow, I cannot believe that you guys are actually ok with the game being released in multiple parts. Seems like something Blizzard would never have done. To be honest, this changes my perspectives on SC2 somewhat.

So you'd prefer if the game came out in 2011?

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Originally posted by zokissima Wow, I cannot believe that you guys are actually ok with the game being released in multiple parts. Seems like something Blizzard would never have done. To be honest, this changes my perspectives on SC2 somewhat.

it is a bummer not having it all in one, but like i said DOW only had 1 campaign, if they can make them bigger and more epic or something, and if there isn't a huge gap in between releases then it should be sweet.

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Originally posted by Philby it is a bummer not having it all in one, but like i said DOW only had 1 campaign, if they can make them bigger and more epic or something, and if there isn't a huge gap in between releases then it should be sweet.

When are you getting a new PC? And why will you be wasting time with starcraft when you already own forged alliance?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN When are you getting a new PC? And why will you be wasting time with starcraft when you already own forged alliance?

hahaha
as soon as i get a good job and can afford one! the beast here i come!

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Originally posted by Philby if there isn't a huge gap in between releases then it should be sweet.

I believe they said it would be at least a year between Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm, and that was considering they already have a head start on it, so it could be somewhat longer between parts 2 and 3.

Probably gonna be something like:

Summer 2009 - SC2 WoL
Fall 2009 - D3
Summer 2010 - SC2 HotS
Summer 2011 - SC2 LotV

hmmm a year hey...
ok so then maybe not so good

But then, that's understandable if you've seen the ammount of attention they're putting on each individual mission. Briefings aren't just talking heads anymore, they involve talking to various npcs, interacting with the UI(galaxy maps, purchasing technology, reading info, etc), plus various scripted sequences in between. When you have a 30 mission campaign, that's a whole new game in itself.

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