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Obama supporters - which of his policies worry you?

I'm extremely excited about the prospect of Obama in the white house because it seems that he will be actually champion the alternative energy cause. In my opinion, this is the most important issue facing america because the importance of many other issues derives from this one issue (e.g., our role in the middle east, trade imbalance, global warming, etc...).

I also like that obama will further a policy of fairness in our global trade.

HOWEVER, at the same time, his trade policy worries me. I want fair trade which means that if foreign companies have unrestricted access to US markets, US companies will have unrestricted access to foreign markets. We also need to ensure that the standard of living for the average person in the borders of our trading partners increases from our cross border trade so that the competitive advantage they have in cheap labor will diminish in time.

Additionally, I am deeply concerned about Obama's tax policies. I see nothing wrong with allowing Bush's irresponsible tax cuts to lapse, however, all this talk about a refundable credit for those not even paying taxes has me a little worried. I see this as highly irresponsible because our budget is so far in the red this will do nothing to restore fiscal responsibility.

I am interested to know which of obama's policies worry some of us obama supporters.

Pakistan.

Not for the reasons that McCain has given (isn't McCain broadcasting the fact that he'd make incursions into Pakistan by insisting "I'd do it, but I wouldn't say I'd do it!"), but because I think that how we handle Pakistan will reverberate in far more profound ways than Iraq did.

Obama may be coming off more hawkish to bolster his toughness, but I think he's a bit too belligerant on Pakistan.

Also, his revoking support for international development assistance designed to reach the Millennium Development Goals literally had me frothing at the mouth a few weeks ago.

No wonder America isn't trusted when we continue to break promises to the rest of the world.

I don't like his lefty tilt on economics at all, but I'm willing to tolerate it if it means getting rid of the neocons. The republican party needs a huge loss to purge out the big government warmongers. Once they are destroyed, we can start worrying about economic policy.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Also, his revoking support for international development assistance designed to reach the Millennium Development Goals literally had me frothing at the mouth a few weeks ago. No wonder America isn't trusted when we continue to break promises to the rest of the world.

i agree that we should adhere to our promises, but what do you propose we cut so that we can fund those programs? Obviously you are going to say military spending, but is there anything else?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Pakistan. Not for the reasons that McCain has given (isn't McCain broadcasting the fact that he'd make incursions into Pakistan by insisting "I'd do it, but I wouldn't say I'd do it!"), but because I think that how we handle Pakistan will reverberate in far more profound ways than Iraq did. Obama may be coming off more hawkish to bolster his toughness, but I think he's a bit too belligerant on Pakistan.

i agree here as well. I don't think he is entirely serious.


do you disagree with any domestic policies?

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i agree that we should adhere to our promises, but what do you propose we cut so that we can fund those programs? Obviously you are going to say military spending, but is there anything else?

We don't have to cut much - international development assistance is a shot in a barrel right now - I just propose we make it two shots.

And there's a lot we can decrease costs in - administrative costs all across government, closing tax loopholes, getting out of Iraq, re-distributing foreign assistance to actual target places it will be effective (de-militarizing foreign assistance would be a novel place to start).

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i agree here as well. I don't think he is entirely serious. do you disagree with any domestic policies?

As a proud product of the public school system, charter schools make me nervous. I think we need a President who will get serious about evaluating what works and what doesn't in public education - more funding would be nice, but more important is better monitoring and evaluation - quality control with teachers, etc.

I don't think Obama is giving education policy anywhere near the attention it deserves.

That said, I have no problem with his healthcare or tax policy, the two areas of domestic policy that most people are all up in a tizzy about.

The public education in the US costs taxpayers 896billion dollars a year. That is a huge amount, basically US schools do not need more funding. Their should probably be more distribution, though.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov As a proud product of the public school system, charter schools make me nervous. I think we need a President who will get serious about evaluating what works and what doesn't in public education - more funding would be nice, but more important is better monitoring and evaluation - quality control with teachers, etc. I don't think Obama is giving education policy anywhere near the attention it deserves. That said, I have no problem with his healthcare or tax policy, the two areas of domestic policy that most people are all up in a tizzy about.

the problem is public education is not federally controlled. I would like to see greater access to federal grants for college education. or perhaps more strings attached (to widen financial access to the school) to federal grants given to private universities.

I want America to withdraw from both Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama wants to send in extra combat brigades to Afghanistan which is a complete waste of our resources.

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Originally posted by Krypton I want America to withdraw from both Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama wants to send in extra combat brigades to Afghanistan which is a complete waste of our resources.

what about domestic policies? we all know your stance on those issues.

I forgot to mention FISA. I about shit a brick when Obama voted for that detestable piece of legislation. If that had happened during the primary, I may have jumped on board with Chris Dodd after that.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 what about domestic policies? we all know your stance on those issues.

I want to see the Patriot Act ripped to shreds. I don't know if Obama is going to do that. But tax-wise, I'm on board. Regulation-wise, I'm on board. If a Democrat president could balance our government into a surplus (keep in mind Reagan's deficits), then I have full confidence Obama could do the same.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I forgot to mention FISA. I about shit a brick when Obama voted for that detestable piece of legislation. If that had happened during the primary, I may have jumped on board with Chris Dodd after that.

that was probably obama just being a politician. trying to court the more conservative independents. I guess his view was that liberal independents aren't voting for mccain so he really can't lose them.

it's a shame though that a former conlaw professor could support such a law.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru The public education in the US costs taxpayers 896billion dollars a year. That is a huge amount, basically US schools do not need more funding. Their should probably be more distribution, though.

What is up with your av?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} What is up with your av?

dude is getting a head piece from what looks like a fine chica. don't hate.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} What is up with your av?

prostitute from Russia. That is not important though.

Having grown up shooting, I'm not thrilled at the prospect of Brady Bill type legislation. Additionally, I realize that we live a world where the US military has so much power that it would be near impossible to revolt, but that doesn't mean our founders didn't put the 2nd Amendment in for it to become antiquated. Additionally, if you want to talk about slippery slopes...start wiping out/sections of the Bill of Rights (you guys who don't like Guantanamo should appreciate this point).

I also don't like that he'll continue faith-based initiatives, especially since half of the people that will benefit think he's a Muslim. The Religion/Politics connection should be removed.

To be honest, there are quite a few issues that I have with some policies that are necessary for the short term, but not even close to ideal. Hopefully they don't stay permanent (like government ownership in banks, etc). I draw the line at a mortgage buyout/housing price fixing that's being proposed by McCain and I hope Obama finds a better way of dealing with that disaster.

I don't know if it would be fair to call me an "Obama supporter", although I certainly support him considering the alternative.

My concerns regarding Obama include:

• his "faith"
  
• his health care plan; it wouldn't be justified under normal circumstances, and is less so given the current state of the federal budget
  
• his public education proposals, which seem to merely throw money at the problem rather than including the type of deep, systemic reform needed to achieve real progress.
  
• his plans for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, which are a waste of resources better spent on R&D or mitigation efforts (although he is generally otherwise good in that regard.)
  
• his middle class tax cuts, which are 100% pandering
  
• windfall profits taxes
  
• his support of expanding "hate crimes" statutes
  
• his impracticable proposals for "reforming" defense contracts
  
• needlessly belligerent foreign policy positions with respect to pakistan and russia
  
• his silent assent to the congressional black caucus' attacks on native american tribal sovereignty
  

yeah I hope he is just faking being religious. to believe in magical all knowing identities as a grown man is not good

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