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Posted by Prometheus Xex on Oct-29-2008 13:42:

Angry Somalian woman stoned to death for adultery.

So as many of you may have heard how this woman was stoned to death becuase she was accused of adultery, I'm reminded once again how society, in most countries, treat men and women differently. What about the guy that also is in this. Is she the only one who should be put to death for the both of them?

One of many sources http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...wd_Rush_Forward,

quote:
The 23-year-old woman was buried up to her neck in front of hundreds of people in a square in Kismayu and stones were hurled at her head.

She was dragged out of the hole three times to see if she was dead.

When a relative and others surged forward to rescue her, guards opened fire and killed a child.

It is thought to be the first such public killing by the militants for about two years.

Witness Abdullahi Aden said: "A woman in green veil and black mask was brought in a car as we waited to watch the merciless act of stoning.


We were told she submitted herself to be punished, yet we could see her screaming as she was forcefully bound, legs and hands.

Witness Abdullahi Aden

"A relative of hers ran towards her, but the Islamists opened fire and killed a child."

The Islamists last carried out public executions when they ruled Mogadishu and most of south Somalia for half of 2006.

They were toppled by allied Ethiopian and Somali government forces at the end of that year, but they have taken back land by waging an Iraq-style guerrilla campaign.

In parts, they are welcomed for the security they bring, but they are also imposing fundamentalist practices like banning entertainment seen as anti-Islamic.

Islamists said the woman, named as Asha Ibrahim Dhuhulow, wanted punishment under Sharia law.

Local leader Sheikh Hayakallah said: "She was asked several times to review her confession but she stressed that she wanted Sharia law and the deserved punishment to apply."

But her sister, who asked not to be named, said: "The stoning was totally irreligious and illogical.

"Islam does not execute a woman for adultery unless four witnesses and the man with whom she committed sex are brought forward publicly."

Islamist leaders at the execution said the woman had breached Islamic law and promised to punish the guard who had shot the child in the melee around the execution.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-29-2008 13:47:

Disgusting! Unbelievable.


Posted by v-vaughn on Oct-29-2008 14:10:

ugh, another 2 unnecessary deaths


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-29-2008 14:39:



Somalia has no recognized government and is deemed to be 'stateless'. Probably one of the most dangerous places you could be in the world right now. My heartfelt pity goes out to the people of this sad nation.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-29-2008 14:45:

sad


Posted by Geoffb3 on Oct-29-2008 14:50:

Agreed this is very sad, her death and the kids are pointless ....

this article is alot more telling than bbc's however.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7694397.stm


Posted by T_ALI on Oct-29-2008 14:55:

wow, that sucks!!! I'm pretty extreme but I can't believe there's still some places like that in the world that are this fucked up.


PS: Religion is bullshit!!


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-29-2008 15:05:

Gad damn Islamists, off with their heads!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Oct-29-2008 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Gad damn Islamists, off with their heads!


Good call!



Posted by zoogla on Oct-29-2008 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Gad damn Islamists, off with their heads!


whoa that's scary


Posted by UmmiE on Oct-29-2008 15:11:

After talking to a guy in my office here who is from somalia and is 53yrs old has lived most of his life there and came to canada in 2001 tells me the country is in bad shape no Govt and the only way this incident took this ugly shape is because of the fact that she was dumb and went and told them that yes she did it instead of someone else telling on her, in that case they would have to bring forward up to 8 women and if its man then its 4 men to prove that they had sex and be the witness before she was to found guilty.......In her case she just blindly went forward herself and said yes I did it and I want this punishment.

Sad regardless.


Posted by UmmiE on Oct-29-2008 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Gad damn Islamists, off with their heads!



WoW I always wanted to see this even living in saudi arabia never had a chance or balls to go see the public execution they do infront of the mosque so that people could see it live.


Posted by iLLnaDa on Oct-29-2008 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
WoW I always wanted to see this even living in saudi arabia never had a chance or balls to go see the public execution they do infront of the mosque so that people could see it live.


I witnessed one in Jeddah in 1991!


Posted by geroin on Oct-29-2008 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLnaDa
I witnessed one in Jeddah in 1991!


fucked up..
what was it about?


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-29-2008 15:32:

That'll teach the slut!!!













































i keeeed i keeeed!! dont stone me too!!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-29-2008 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLnaDa
I witnessed one in Jeddah in 1991!


Really habibti? Thats scary nada. I cant imagine seeing that myself..


Posted by chinamon on Oct-29-2008 16:36:

i dunno man.. different cultures look at life differently. who are we to judge them? is it because we are taught to think we are better than everyone else?

im pretty sure she knew what would happen to her if she was caught committing adultery but she still chose to do so. if we had the death penalty in canada and you chose to kill someone and you get caught, it is nobody's fault but your own.

the kid's death was unnecessary though.


Posted by love_child on Oct-29-2008 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i dunno man.. different cultures look at life differently. who are we to judge them? is it because we are taught to think we are better than everyone else?

im pretty sure she knew what would happen to her if she was caught committing adultery but she still chose to do so. if we had the death penalty in canada and you chose to kill someone and you get caught, it is nobody's fault but your own.

the kid's death was unnecessary though.


Yeah but killing someone is a totally different crime. Adultery is still wrong but then who were they to judge her? I guarantee you that each one of the individuals who participated in her death were not perfect human beings so what position were they in to make that call? Do you really think she deserved to die for that? I dont think so.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-29-2008 16:43:

it does not matter if it is right or wrong to us, the reality is that the rest of their world does not have to believe what we do and there is absolutely nothing that can change this.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-29-2008 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Yeah but killing someone is a totally different crime. Adultery is still wrong but then who were they to judge her? I guarantee you that each one of the individuals who participated in her death were not perfect human beings so what position were they in to make that call? Do you really think she deserved to die for that? I dont think so.


exactly
I mean it would have been one story if they stoned her for killing someone - eye for an eye so to speak
it's nothing to do with us vs. them


Posted by Yohan on Oct-29-2008 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Yeah but killing someone is a totally different crime. Adultery is still wrong but then who were they to judge her? I guarantee you that each one of the individuals who participated in her death were not perfect human beings so what position were they in to make that call? Do you really think she deserved to die for that? I dont think so.

There has to be a logical and reasonable limit to exactly what human rights a person has, regardless of cultural or religious difference.

Or else we'd accept stuff like slavery, torture and stuff like that just because it might be acceptable in other nations


Posted by chinamon on Oct-29-2008 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Yeah but killing someone is a totally different crime. Adultery is still wrong but then who were they to judge her? I guarantee you that each one of the individuals who participated in her death were not perfect human beings so what position were they in to make that call? Do you really think she deserved to die for that? I dont think so.


their laws are their laws. not ours.
i dont think she deserved to die because i was brought up with the laws here.


quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
it does not matter if it is right or wrong to us, the reality is that the rest of their world does not have to believe what we do and there is absolutely nothing that can change this.


exactly. they might think our laws are absolutely retarded.


quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
There has to be a logical and reasonable limit to exactly what human rights a person has, regardless of cultural or religious difference.

Or else we'd accept stuff like slavery, torture and stuff like that just because it might be acceptable in other nations


what one society thinks is right in regards to human rights doesnt mean squat in another society. that is how they live and they should abide by it.

there are countries where a person would get the death penalty for possession of drugs and thats why their drug use is so low. people know the consequences.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-29-2008 16:56:

while living is South Korea it was actually amazing at the sheer amount of things that they thought westerners were savage for doing.


Posted by Yohan on Oct-29-2008 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
what one society thinks is right in regards to human rights doesnt mean squat in another society. that is how they live and they should abide by it.

there are countries where a person would get the death penalty for possession of drugs and thats why their drug use is so low. people know the consequences.

laws are laws. it does not mean they are just

practical point of view says what we think means very little to other cultures, but if we don't speak out against stupid stuff, how else would humanity better itself? do we give such little rat's ass about plight of others?


Posted by elFreak on Oct-29-2008 17:04:

when there is absolutely nothing you can do to change them, no.

go to their country to convert them to your ways and see what happens.


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