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at university, about mixing. about panning tracks left n right to create a wider stereo field or to make space in the middle for other sounds of the same frequency band. and boy has it helped me

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Originally posted by djandymac at university, about mixing. about panning tracks left n right to create a wider stereo field or to make space in the middle for other sounds of the same frequency band. and boy has it helped me

Are you joking?

Well Done

Was gonna say there's been some real funky questions on here today....

i learned once 'never eat yellow snow'

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Are you joking?

no, how would i know unless i was told or looked it up ?

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Originally posted by djandymac no, how would i know unless i was told or looked it up ?

Osmosis.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...48&pagenumber=1

You need to check out the andivax secrets of mixing tutorial.

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Originally posted by djandymac at university, about mixing. about panning tracks left n right to create a wider stereo field or to make space in the middle for other sounds of the same frequency band. and boy has it helped me

you had to go to uni to learn this?

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Originally posted by echosystm you had to go to uni to learn this?

Yeah, i thought it was fairly intuitive. I knew this before i started producing.

Hang on, I thought this was a joke?

Was this thread serious then?

Er I to am confused. Well done for learning that mate, sure it will help no end in furture production but tell me something, how have you managed to get release's? And on a decent label like bonzai, then only to learn about panning, fundamental part of production just the other day?

Were your release's done with a friend or engineer?

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Originally posted by echosystm you had to go to uni to learn this?

wasn't there just a thread about this?

ta > uni

Please explain this panning you speak of. is that something to do with sidechaining, or getting moar analogue?

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Originally posted by pwnage1 You need to check out the andivax secrets of mixing tutorial.

And the second edition due out early 2009

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Originally posted by djandymac no, how would i know unless i was told or looked it up ?

intuition.

srlsy couldnt u think of yourself that panning a sound to the left would make it disapear (and make free room) on the right?

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Er I to am confused. Well done for learning that mate, sure it will help no end in furture production but tell me something, how have you managed to get release's? And on a decent label like bonzai, then only to learn about panning, fundamental part of production just the other day? Were your release's done with a friend or engineer?

This was exactly my point and reasoning. I have trouble understanding how a commercially released artist just learnt about panning. I mean in the list of things to do during production, it's like 1: set the gain, 2: pan it, 3: etc.

Also, what Uni course are you doing? This is engineering/production 101. Seriously, they should be teaching this within the fist week. If you're not in the first month or so, you need to question if you're on the right course.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 Yeah, i thought it was fairly intuitive. I knew this before i started producing.

+1
i always lol at ppl who pay for djing courses... is it really that hard to figure out??

today i learned about translation.

more specifically, about the translation of big room style high synths from my monitors to car speakers.

Often when i hear synths on my monitors they sound clear and crisp, but when later listened to on my car speakers, they sound distored, thin, and more like white noise. This is obviously a huge problem because the synth looses its tone and impact.

To reduce this problem, i have shelved the higher synths and added another layer underneath which is one octave lower. The result was an improvement.


*i would encourage you to think about what you learned today. You just might be able to teach someone else something useful.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Er I to am confused. Well done for learning that mate, sure it will help no end in furture production but tell me something, how have you managed to get release's? And on a decent label like bonzai, then only to learn about panning, fundamental part of production just the other day? Were your release's done with a friend or engineer?

i guess because the label still thought my tracks sounded decent. they were all done by me, no one else has been involved in any of them.

ah well, guess im a dumb ass eh lol.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN This was exactly my point and reasoning. I have trouble understanding how a commercially released artist just learnt about panning. I mean in the list of things to do during production, it's like 1: set the gain, 2: pan it, 3: etc. Also, what Uni course are you doing? This is engineering/production 101. Seriously, they should be teaching this within the fist week. If you're not in the first month or so, you need to question if you're on the right course.

im studying (BSc) media and music technology. year 1 covered acoustics, digital audio, music theory, sequencing, sound recording and music context. year 2 which i am currently in covers composition and synthesis, mixing and mastering, live sound production and electroacoustic music composition.

I want to know your mixing techniques if you got releases without panning

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Originally posted by Tom Scott I want to know your mixing techniques if you got releases without panning

i just played with levels til i got the sound i got the balance i wanted.

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Originally posted by djandymac i just played with levels til i got the sound i got the balance i wanted.

Wow, good on you then - I am impressed you have had a commercial release without knowing the fundamentals of panning.

Really though, if your course is teaching you this in the second year(!) then I think you want to be doing more extra curricular activities or homework, as the course really should have taught you this in the opening stages.

What I mean is, if you've ever mic'd a drum kit (and as you did sound recording in the first year so you should have) then you HAVE to pan those to avoid clashing frequencies. The same goes for more than one instrument, whether it be in the analog or digital domain.

Really panning is such a basic task in the studio that I don't understand why they have taken this long to show you it.

I'm not saying this to dishearten you about your course or abilities or anything like that, just that if you want to be serious about production and engineering (and obviously you are otherwise you wouldn't be going to Uni for it), you should demand more from your course or do a load of extra learning yourself outside of it (on here!)

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