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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-30-2008 23:11:

aussie internet censorship

is the gay!

go here to learn what YOU can do to change the government's mind:

No Clean Feed

quote:

AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to "protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users".

Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Human Rights Watch has condemned internet censorship, and argued to the US Senate "there is a real danger of a Virtual Curtain dividing the internet, much as the Iron Curtain did during the Cold War, because some governments fear the potential of the internet, (and) want to control it"

Groups including the System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it would unfairly restrict Australians' access to the web, slow internet speeds and raise the price of internet access.

EFA board member Colin Jacobs said it would have little effect on illegal internet content, including child pornography, as it would not cover file-sharing networks.

"If the Government would actually come out and say we're only targeting child pornography it would be a different debate," he said.

The technology companies' move, which follows criticism that the companies were assisting censorship of the internet in nations such as China, requires them to narrowly interpret government requests for information or censorship and to fight to minimise cooperation.

The initiative provides a systematic approach to "work together in resisting efforts by governments that seek to enlist companies in acts of censorship and surveillance that violate international standards", the participants said.

In a statement, Yahoo co-founder and chief executive Jerry Yang welcomed the new code of conduct.

"These principles provide a valuable roadmap for companies like Yahoo operating in markets where freedom of expression and privacy are unfairly restricted," he said.

"Yahoo was founded on the belief that promoting access to information can enrich people's lives, and the principles we unveil today reflect our determination that our actions match our values around the world."

Yahoo was thrust into the forefront of the online rights issue after the Californian company helped Chinese police identify cyber dissidents whose supposed crime was expressing their views online.

China exercises strict control over the internet, blocking sites linked to Chinese dissidents, the outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement, the Tibetan government-in-exile and those with information on the 1989 Tiananmen massacre.

A number of US companies, including Microsoft, Cisco, Google and Yahoo, have been hauled before the US Congress in recent years and accused of complicity in building the "Great Firewall of China".

The Australian Christian Lobby, however, has welcomed the proposals.

Managing director Jim Wallace said the measures were needed.

"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said.


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/st...37-2862,00.html


Posted by sunrise3500 on Oct-31-2008 00:23:

Nothing's gonna stop it.
It's been a long time coming. Internet promotes free speech, that's bad.
So a way to start to control it is by "protecting" us from the evils of child pr0n. O_o
and protect our children.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
ofcourse over the years they'll just add more and more crap to the blocks.




that aside, once it's implemented, will work out something to set up a proxy abroad.
So if anyone is interested in sharing the costs let me know


Posted by Light The Fuse on Oct-31-2008 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by sunrise3500


that aside, once it's implemented, will work out something to set up a proxy abroad.
So if anyone is interested in sharing the costs let me know


share costs?!

make money!


Posted by sunrise3500 on Oct-31-2008 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
share costs?!

make money!

ok ill make money off you then.
and put some money on the Cubs.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Oct-31-2008 00:49:

The cubs?

shoulda been the phillies - they won the world series last night!


Posted by EgosXII on Oct-31-2008 00:53:

so messed up, i sent an email to the dude the other day, got it off that site...

who knew australia was going to become the next repressed state??
bloody unbelievable


Posted by sunrise3500 on Oct-31-2008 00:54:

quote:
I wish I could go back to the beginning of the season, put some money on the Cubs.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-31-2008 02:03:

I was reading about this yesterday. What a load of shit.

Thanks for the link PKC.


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-31-2008 04:47:

OH, WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-31-2008 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
OH, WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


Actually, I think that's what the censorship is designed to STOP


Posted by Darkarbiter on Oct-31-2008 05:00:

Are they going to block proxies too?


Posted by sunrise3500 on Oct-31-2008 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Are they going to block proxies too?

nothing illegal about a proxy
and how do they know what it is in order to block it?


Posted by batemanscott on Oct-31-2008 05:35:

go Ruddy!! he always delivers good ideas, maybe this is something from that awesomely productive 20/20 summit??


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-31-2008 06:47:

Re: aussie internet censorship

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
is the gay!


I was wondering why it was taking so long for a thread to be started here.


Its very stupid, our internet is slow and expensive compared to overseas at the moment, this is only going to make it slower and more expensive again.

Not to mention theres no doubt going to be sites that get caught up by the filter that maybe shouldn't be.

oh, and no opt out, thats just fucking stupid. I've got no interest in kiddie porn but I'd sure as hell opt out cos of the speed issues and that theres the chance of sites getting blocked that shouldn't be.


blah blah only other countries censoring the internet are China, Iran and North Korea blah blah



quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
OH, WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


their parents maybe? Internet monitoring should start at home, not expecting the government to raise their children for them.
Ok supposing those parents don't keep an eye on the children when they are browsing, if they wanted a filter, why not use one of the multitude of existing net filters that are available?


Posted by Lilith on Nov-01-2008 00:51:

Well I did tell you to vote liberal, they might not have been very nice but they did ok by the country and economy... now look what you've got, Mr Christ bothering Socialist out to save all the idiots on the internet.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-01-2008 01:11:

I'm moving. I have no desire to live in mini-China.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Nov-01-2008 08:35:


Posted by Domesticated on Nov-01-2008 10:57:

Re: Re: aussie internet censorship

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
their parents maybe? Internet monitoring should start at home, not expecting the government to raise their children for them.
Ok supposing those parents don't keep an eye on the children when they are browsing, if they wanted a filter, why not use one of the multitude of existing net filters that are available?


Okay, I see you totally got that Simpsons reference right there.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-01-2008 12:53:

Re: Re: Re: aussie internet censorship

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Okay, I see you totally got that Simpsons reference right there.


simpsons? i thought you were doing southpark :/


Posted by Trance Nutter on Nov-02-2008 03:36:

Re: Re: Re: aussie internet censorship

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Okay, I see you totally got that Simpsons reference right there.


I did actually.

But seeing its actually the argument for it i thought I'd have my normal rant at people who expect others to take care of their responsibilities


Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-02-2008 08:14:

and for fuck sake, they are blocking pro anorexia forums.

How is that going to help the obesity epidemic?

How will I find some wacked anorexic hawt (and now skinny) chick to take advantage of


Posted by Philby on Nov-02-2008 11:38:

shit. where do i get my pr0n now?


Posted by tathi on Nov-05-2008 11:52:

horrible news, cant believe Rudd is stooping to this, �-

PKC youre going to hate me for this but everyone else here should watch this
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


keep an open mind and come to your own conclusions and do some research on the topic afterwards if you want to see how far the rabbit hole goes... was hoping australia would be reasonably safe, but hey who knows


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-05-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
PKC youre going to hate me for this but everyone else here should watch this


you're right, i do fucking hate you mate what the fuck?

take your lies and bullshit elsewhere. fuck man, you make me sadder than your last rape victim


Posted by gumble on Nov-06-2008 00:51:

add to that viewing "What the bleep do we know?" and you'll find yourself a very informed individual


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