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Posted by Reza on Nov-02-2008 07:29:

Somali fighters stone 'rape victim'

Somali fighters stone 'rape victim'


In recent months the Islamic Courts' al-Shebab group appears to have gained strength [EPA]

A Somali girl who said she had been raped has been stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery, a human rights group has said.

Amnesty International said in a press release on Friday that the victim, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, had been 13 years old - not 23 as earlier reports had suggested.

Duhulow was stoned to death on October 27 by dozens of men in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses.

The armed group in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, Amnesty said.

"This child suffered a horrendous death at the behest of the armed opposition groups who currently control Kismayo," David Copeman, Amnesty International's Somalia campaigner, said in a statement.

Initial local media reports said Duhulow was 23, but her father told Amnesty International she was 13.

The Islamic Courts took control of much of Somalia in 2006, triggering an intervention by neighbouring Ethiopia, which propped up the UN-backed transitional government and ousted the movement.

While the group's political leadership largely fled the country, the movement's military and youth wing, the al-Shaabab, switched to guerrilla warfare.

In recent months the group appears to have gained strength, taking over the port city of Kismayo, and dismantling pro-government roadblocks.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/a...1216476354.html





fuking animals.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-02-2008 07:36:

Re: Somali fighters stone 'rape victim'

quote:
Originally posted by rT19
Somali fighters stone 'rape victim'


In recent months the Islamic Courts' al-Shebab group appears to have gained strength [EPA]

A Somali girl who said she had been raped has been stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery, a human rights group has said.

Amnesty International said in a press release on Friday that the victim, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, had been 13 years old - not 23 as earlier reports had suggested.

Duhulow was stoned to death on October 27 by dozens of men in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses.

The armed group in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, Amnesty said.

"This child suffered a horrendous death at the behest of the armed opposition groups who currently control Kismayo," David Copeman, Amnesty International's Somalia campaigner, said in a statement.

Initial local media reports said Duhulow was 23, but her father told Amnesty International she was 13.

The Islamic Courts took control of much of Somalia in 2006, triggering an intervention by neighbouring Ethiopia, which propped up the UN-backed transitional government and ousted the movement.

While the group's political leadership largely fled the country, the movement's military and youth wing, the al-Shaabab, switched to guerrilla warfare.

In recent months the group appears to have gained strength, taking over the port city of Kismayo, and dismantling pro-government roadblocks.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/a...1216476354.html


fuking animals.


Probably best in the PDD...but....

You are so bloody late. Ethiopia, with US help, invaded Somalia in 2006, defeated the Islamic Courts Union (ISU), and now occupies the country. No doubt the ISU has launched a full scale guerilla insurgency which I sympathize with. The puppet government of President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed and Prime Minister Nur Hassan Hussein are accused of torture, summary executions, detention without charge, and a police force more akin to roaming pillagers than police. You want to harp on the Islamic movement? The Transitional Government is little better. At least when the Islamic Courts held sway, there was some semblence of law and order and a drastic reduction in corruption of the law. The port of Mogadishu was even opened for the first time in years allowing desperately needed supplies to enter the city.

If you think democracy is possible in Somalia, you're fooling yourself. And with American-backed foreign occupation of the country, the terrorism will only get worse, I promise you that.


Posted by nchs09 on Nov-02-2008 11:53:

Top Gear top tip: Dont get rape like a noob.



jk omg..


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-02-2008 13:06:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Probably best in the PDD...but....

You are so bloody late. Ethiopia, with US help, invaded Somalia in 2006, defeated the Islamic Courts Union (ISU), and now occupies the country. No doubt the ISU has launched a full scale guerilla insurgency which I sympathize with. The puppet government of President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed and Prime Minister Nur Hassan Hussein are accused of torture, summary executions, detention without charge, and a police force more akin to roaming pillagers than police. You want to harp on the Islamic movement? The Transitional Government is little better. At least when the Islamic Courts held sway, there was some semblence of law and order and a drastic reduction in corruption of the law. The port of Mogadishu was even opened for the first time in years allowing desperately needed supplies to enter the city.

If you think democracy is possible in Somalia, you're fooling yourself. And with American-backed foreign occupation of the country, the terrorism will only get worse, I promise you that.


You're defending a group with a human rights record on par with the Taliban.

Things in Somalia were far more complicated than you depict there - your obsession with "national sovereignty" is making you blind to instances where the state has failed and there is no sovereignty to uphold. By all standards Somalia was a failing state even under the Islamic Courts - your self-determination argument holds a lot more water if you use it to support the governments of Somaliland or Puntland.


Posted by boris_the_bear on Nov-02-2008 14:24:

if they behave like animals they should be treated like animals. but, hey, green peace says don't hurt the animals so they have to be treated worse.. like toxic waste - isolated and exterminated


Posted by Krypton on Nov-02-2008 18:23:

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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
You're defending a group with a human rights record on par with the Taliban.

Things in Somalia were far more complicated than you depict there - your obsession with "national sovereignty" is making you blind to instances where the state has failed and there is no sovereignty to uphold. By all standards Somalia was a failing state even under the Islamic Courts - your self-determination argument holds a lot more water if you use it to support the governments of Somaliland or Puntland.


There is nothing worse than anarchy. Period.


Posted by Xan_2v2 on Nov-02-2008 19:04:

This does not shock me.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-02-2008 19:17:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
There is nothing worse than anarchy. Period.


Coming from a former libertarian, this made me chuckle.

I do think you are greatly over-stating the competency and popular legitimacy of the Islamic Courts. Their main purpose is to impose Sharia law and destroy segments of the population inimical to radical fundamentalism. The opening of the port in Mogadishu, as I explained in a previous thread, didn't have much to do with the courts persay as much as it did with the resurgence of the black market and piracy.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-02-2008 19:25:

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Coming from a former libertarian, this made me chuckle.

I do think you are greatly over-stating the competency and popular legitimacy of the Islamic Courts. Their main purpose is to impose Sharia law and destroy segments of the population inimical to radical fundamentalism. The opening of the port in Mogadishu, as I explained in a previous thread, didn't have much to do with the courts persay as much as it did with the resurgence of the black market and piracy.


In the areas under the control of the ICU, piracy was non-existent.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2008 00:50:

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Originally posted by Krypton
In the areas under the control of the ICU, piracy was non-existent.

Since I know how the piracy world works really well (in relation to digital piracy of ANY form), your aversion in thinking that it did not exist, is the biggest disillusionment you could ever harbor. Don't be a clueless fuck and say it did not exist, as I can guarantee it most certainly did.


Posted by Slylee on Nov-03-2008 00:53:

further proof supporting the theory of evolution lol


Posted by elFreak on Nov-03-2008 01:42:

meh...

the rest of the world believes in weird shit and thats ok too.


Posted by Reza on Nov-03-2008 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
further proof supporting the theory of evolution lol



lol so true


Posted by Krypton on Nov-03-2008 03:02:

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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Since I know how the piracy world works really well (in relation to digital piracy of ANY form), your aversion in thinking that it did not exist, is the biggest disillusionment you could ever harbor. Don't be a clueless fuck and say it did not exist, as I can guarantee it most certainly did.


If there was piracy in ICU controlled areas, then the port of Mogadishu would not have been able to be opened. What ship would risk docking there if there was piracy?

You should watch this for a reality check on the ICU and Somalia...


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2008 03:07:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
If there was piracy in ICU controlled areas, then the port of Mogadishu would not have been able to be opened. What ship would risk docking there if there was piracy?

You should watch this for a reality check on the ICU and Somalia...


Dude, that is being naive. Only a dumbass would think that piracy does not go on. It goes on in EVERY facet of the world.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-03-2008 03:10:

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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Dude, that is being naive. Only a dumbass would think that piracy does not go on. It goes on in EVERY facet of the world.


Piracy may have gone on, I don't know, but what I do know is that is was not nearly as bad as it is today, otherwise like I said, it would have been impossible to open the Port of Mogadishu. The ICU executed any pirates they caught.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2008 03:12:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
caught.

My point exactly. I have known too many people that have gotten caught for piracy (including a guy that didn't get any bullshit but the FBI did show up at his door one day) to ever be some naive idiot that thinks it doesn't go on.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-03-2008 03:15:

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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
My point exactly. I have known too many people that have gotten caught for piracy (including a guy that didn't get any bullshit but the FBI did show up at his door one day) to ever be some naive idiot that thinks it doesn't go on.


The fact is, the ICU drastically curtailed piracy when they controlled southern Somalia. Maybe not to absolute zero, but drastic nonetheless. Strange what happens when the law is strictly enforced ay?


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Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2008 03:20:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The fact is, the ICU drastically curtailed piracy when they controlled southern Somalia. Maybe not to absolute zero, but drastic nonetheless. Strange what happens when the law is strictly enforced ay?

Well I won't dispute that.


Posted by elFreak on Nov-03-2008 03:28:

controlled and somalia do not belong in the same sentence ever.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-03-2008 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
controlled and somalia do not belong in the same sentence ever.


Seriously.

Krypton, the ICU may have brought a level of stability to Somalia, but only because they ruled with Talibanesque ruthlessness.

I suggest you read some of the reports from Freedom House or the US Insitute of Peace, among other groups that catalog human rights transgressions, corruption, and overall political violence.

Here's a good place to start:
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/count...3f82a815,0.html



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