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um soooooo

isnt anyone worried about "you know who" seriously might make it into office.



this kinda like sums up how I feel about it lol

http://www.nohussein.org/

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Originally posted by ASoT1 http://www.nohussein.org/

That domain name about sums up your ignorance.

btw... i know you're not serious. but still.

I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do.

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Originally posted by DiscoStew That domain name about sums up your ignorance.

The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do. The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.

Regardless of one's individual beliefs, it is fair to say that any web site that leads with a headline that reads "Obama = Taxes & Death" is putting out false information. The only thing worse than ignorance is misinformation.

Both candidates have a lot to offer to our nation. I don't care which way you vote; I would just ask that you make an intelligent decision. Use nonpartisan resources for your research like NPR or www.factcheck.org rather than the trash being spewed out of the mouth of Sean Hannity or nohussein.org.

After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president.

Why?

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Originally posted by DiscoStew After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.

Good God, Chris. Just wow!

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Originally posted by DiscoStew Regardless of one's individual beliefs, it is fair to say that any web site that leads with a headline that reads "Obama = Taxes & Death" is putting out false information. The only thing worse than ignorance is misinformation.

How is this false information? He wants to tax more and he has the most liberal voting record on abortion. I'm sure you probably think I'm ignorant, but I know what he stands for and that is not what I stand for. I do think for myself you know. I don't blindly follow hannity.

Aww, Sam, you've bought into the Obama hype too? haha. Just kidding. As I said before, I think he stands for all the wrong things. He really isn't offering anything of substance, yet he some how has the support of so many people. Abortion, the war, taxes, healthcare, etc., I disagree with his positions. If I go issue by issue I could be on here all night. I don't really want to get into a big political argument, so I will leave it at that.

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Originally posted by DiscoStew After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.

I actually think the poll is pretty good. Besides always having Tiesto in the top 5 and people like Guetta and Infected Mushroom in there, I think it's good. My top 5 were in the top 10, so I can't complain. I know I'm probably adding on to my supposed ignorance in your eyes, but I don't care.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do. The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 How is this false information? He wants to tax more... ...I know what he stands for

With a blanket statement like "he wants to tax more" you obviously don't. That sounds like party propaganda that is again, inaccurate. There are certain sectors of the population that will incur higher taxes with either candidate. No offense, but I doubt you fall into the small proportion of the population that will see a tax increase under the Obama plan. (If you are, that's great for you -- that would put you in the top 1% tax bracket and you can afford to go take some courses on economics.) Warren Buffet, one of the greatest minds of his generation, is advising and supporting the Obama campaign.

Now, if we wanted to make this an intelligent debate, I would probably begin with speaking to Obama's competence - his intellect, superior organization, measured approach, and the principled leadership of his campaign have been impressive, even to Republican onlookers. Then, I would mention foreign policy. Although the general public views foreign policy as one of McCain's strengths, Obama actually understands important elements including the facts that Ahmadinejad is not the real leader of Iran, Syria's terrorism in Lebanon has to do with disputed historical land, and a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq is necessary for progress (which even Bush now supports). But again, I can see that sparking an intellectual discussion would simply be an exercise in futility. So, instead, I leave you with this...

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 Abortion, the war, taxes, healthcare, etc., I disagree with his positions.

Okay.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 If I go issue by issue I could be on here all night. I don't really want to get into a big political argument, so I will leave it at that.

Okay.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 He really isn't offering anything of substance

bahahahahahaha

So glad I don't support either candidate.

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Originally posted by Seppuku So glad I don't support either candidate.

Just as useless as a McCain vote.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Just as useless as a McCain vote.

I agree, oh well. Maybe next time I'll have better candidates to choose from.

Both candidates are guilty of false advertising, so I'm not going to call someone ignorant for reading a website that states one or the other is going to lower or raise taxes.

However, I feel the democratic party is doing a much better job at misleading the general "ignorant" public into false claims.

I'm a McCain supporter. I believe he is correct in stating that he has no intentions of raising anyone's taxes.

I'm also dead against the concept of adding more taxes onto our businesses. The US unemployment rate is at a record high, and that's all we need is for Obama to tax the snot out of the businesses we have left, so they can lay off more people, or better yet, outsource thousands of more jobs to other countries. Yeah, it seems like a great idea to tax in excess of 30% for these business, but what does he plan to push it toward? 40- 50%? That's insane! Heck, if I were operating a company and knew I could base it in India, and hire people in India, and profit 50 times more than I could here, I would too!

So in essence, Obama's great plan will be the final plummet of this economy. Then we'll have to be taxed even MORE to pay for all these people collecting unemployment benefits because their bosses and CEO's realize it's not beneficial to hire someone here.

Taking that into consideration, any statement that the tax increase will effect 1% of the population is a flat out lie. It's eventually and inevitably hurt us all.

Also, any candidate that will not even respect the morals this country was founded on wins no respect from me.

What is so funny Sam? Hard to believe I don't agree with Obama's positions? I understand it seems to be the cool thing to do to support Obama, but I don't mind being hated on. I know what I believe in. I'll admit, sometimes I get a little heated when it comes to politics, but if I had the time to have a proper debate with any of you guys, I assure you my knowledge of the issues would not be lacking. I know some of you probably can't believe an intelligent person who is well informed would support McCain, but not everyone loves Obama.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Just as useless as a McCain vote.

I guess you'll be thrown for a loop if McCain actually wins which is still very possible.


Maggie is speaking some sense. Thank you for that insightful post. Good to see someone understands what's at stake. It seems like everyone is buying into this idea that taking from the rich and giving to the poor is such a great plan.

I'm not hating at all. I'm respecting the fact that you disagree with his standings, but just astounded you'd even think he's not standing for anything substantial.

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Originally posted by Caution_BiPolar Also, any candidate that will not even respect the morals this country was founded on wins no respect from me.

Which morals are you talking about? The man has been quoting to constitution more than anyone I've ever seen in my life.

I personaly just cant stand him he has way to many secrets he is endorsed by all these radical nations and groups and their dictator leaders why ? I could go all day for reason why I dont support him but I dont wanna make it into one of those threads lol.

But seriousy I just said that website about sums up how i feel not that is where im getting all my information on and basing my entire vote so chillllll

I can't support Obama or McCain. Barr '08!

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 actually wins which is still very possible.

No, its not.... so i wont.

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Originally posted by nchs09 No, its not.... so i wont.

i have to agree.

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Originally posted by enydo

holy shit

lol..... u idiots who think that obama supports the poor/middle class and mccain is for the rich/businesses are dead WRONG. Don't you know that when the big boys get taxed or fees passed on them... where do you think they pass it on????? YOU, the little guy! Higher prices of products, high fees on different things such as lending,etc... but what the fuck, the average person votes on how good a candidate looks anyway, they dont even know what the candidates stand for aka 'ignent' people

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Originally posted by DiscoStew After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.

Well said!

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Originally posted by romz lol..... u idiots who think that obama supports the poor/middle class and mccain is for the rich/businesses are dead WRONG. Don't you know that when the big boys get taxed or fees passed on them... where do you think they pass it on????? YOU, the little guy! Higher prices of products, high fees on different things such as lending,etc... but what the fuck, the average person votes on how good a candidate looks anyway, they dont even know what the candidates stand for aka 'ignent' people

you must have really thought this out.

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