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Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-04-2008 17:55:

Exclamation New Building 7 video

A new video has surfaced clearly showing the demolition of WTC Building 7.

WATCH VIDEO HERE

In its latest report, the National Institute of Standards and Technology attempted to once and for all put to rest the evidence that the building was taken down via demolition by explaining that fires had caused the collapse. Specifically, NIST claimed �thermal expansion� had brought about the collapse. As Trish Stevens notes, the NIST report �is contrary to all historical, visual, and physical evidence, according to an independent worldwide organization composed of more than 470 engineers and architects. WTC-7 was a 47-story skyscraper located more than a football field away from the North Tower and was not hit by any airplane, yet completely collapsed hours after the Twin Towers fell in a similar manner.�

Dr. Steven Jones says there is �an abundance of evidence which NIST refuses to look at or even account for that clearly points to controlled demolition as the source that destroyed these buildings.�

As the new video clearly reveals, the center supporting columns of the 47-story building were taken out, allowing the building to collapse into its footprint in a symmetrical, straight down fashion. �This is controlled demolition,� averred demolitions expert Danny Jowenko in 2006. �A team of experts did this. This is professional work, without any doubt.�


In 2007, a 9/11 first responder went on the record to describe how he heard a demolition-style countdown precede the collapse of WTC 7. �Earlier this year, we reported on the testimony of an anonymous EMT named Mike who told Loose Change producer Dylan Avery that hundreds of emergency rescue personnel were told over bullhorns that Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper adjacent the twin towers that was not hit by a plane yet imploded symmetrically later in the afternoon on 9/11, was about to be �pulled� and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse,� writes Paul Joseph Watson. �That account was backed up by another ground zero rescue worker who went on the record with her full name. Volunteer EMT Indira Singh described to a radio show how she learned that WTC 7 was going to be �brought down� and the context was clear that it was to be deliberately demolished.�

�The whole time you�re hearing boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I think I know an explosion when I hear it,� NYPD officer Craig Bartmer revealed last year. Bartmer stated his incredulity at how fast the Building 7 site was cleaned up compared to the rest of ground zero.

In addition, other ground zero emergency workers have gone on record as stating they were told Building 7 was to be �pulled.� An anonymous source, identified simply as �Mike,� told Loose Change producer Dylan Avery that hundreds of emergency rescue personnel were told over bullhorns that Building 7 was to be brought down.

An yet, if we are to believe NIST and FEMA, fires are responsible for the classical demolition of the building. Now that we have a video that clearly and irrefutably shows that Building 7 was indeed brought down by demolition, the response of NIST and FEMA will be interesting.


Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-05-2008 14:19:

anyone believe that this was �thermal expansion�????????????


Posted by Capitalizt on Nov-05-2008 16:47:

The characteristic U-shaped bend in the middle is a dead giveaway. It is obviously a controlled demolition.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-05-2008 18:51:

Where's the forensic evidence? Bomb fragments? Explosives residue? Who did it? Who said the countdown? Surely, you truthers can find the person who counted down over the bullhorn or made the announcements? So you guys base your definitive assertion on a video? Totally and utterly ridiculous. Forensic evidence...hmmm...Alex Jones doesn't have it. Trish Jones doesn't have it. Steven Jones doesn't have it...That should tell you something. Dr. Steven Jones, supposedly a scientist, has seemingly forgotten about the scientific method. His theory is untestable. That should also tell you something.

It's like saying, "UFOs exist!" Well, how do you know? "Watch this video, that's definitely a UFO!" Uh ok...Do you have a piece of a UFO? A whole UFO? Anything? NO...

The NIST report does not just say fires brought down the WTC 7. That would be a blatant straw man argument. Out of control fires in combination with the extensive damage caused by WTC 1 collapse caused the collapse.

Additionally, the term "pulled" has been misused by truthers for far too long. Pull does not mean controlled demolition. Watch.


Posted by culorut on Nov-05-2008 19:06:

Here is the video for the North Tower that was just released with the WTC7 video.




Pancake collapse? LOL, more like blown to fucking hell.


Posted by culorut on Nov-05-2008 19:17:

Just about all the demolition videos available presently for all the towers which where demolished.

http://investigate911.se/


Posted by Krypton on Nov-05-2008 19:35:



Note the WTC columns laid out as if there were a path to the building. There are no concrete slabs attached to columns. This is yet another example of pancaking. With the floors pancaking straight down, the perimeter walls were free to lean over in tall sections before breaking off and coming down. That's what gave them distance.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-05-2008 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Where's the forensic evidence? Bomb fragments? Explosives residue? Who did it? Who said the countdown? Surely, you truthers can find the person who counted down over the bullhorn or made the announcements? So you guys base your definitive assertion on a video? Totally and utterly ridiculous. Forensic evidence...hmmm...Alex Jones doesn't have it. Trish Jones doesn't have it. Steven Jones doesn't have it...That should tell you something. Dr. Steven Jones, supposedly a scientist, has seemingly forgotten about the scientific method. His theory is untestable. That should also tell you something.


You are so steeped in denial, it's a ceaseless form of bewilderment; sorry if it upsets you to hear it; I'll stop when you stop.

Do you realise you're using the rationale of a criminal? No fingerprint, no crime? Can't prove a thing! lol, It's so transparent.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-05-2008 22:17:

I'm already regretting posting the abovementioned. I don't want more of this goddamn 9/11 debate


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-05-2008 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Do you realise you're using the rationale of a criminal? No fingerprint, no crime? Can't prove a thing! lol, It's so transparent.


Actually, that's the rationale of a judge, yes?


Posted by Krypton on Nov-05-2008 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You are so steeped in denial, it's a ceaseless form of bewilderment; sorry if it upsets you to hear it; I'll stop when you stop.


You act like you've discovered whether god really exists...

quote:
Do you realise you're using the rationale of a criminal? No fingerprint, no crime? Can't prove a thing! lol, It's so transparent.


...That's all you've got to say about your inability to prove your conspiracy theories? Tisk tisk...


Posted by Fir3start3r on Nov-06-2008 01:30:


Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-06-2008 13:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Where's the forensic evidence? Bomb fragments? Explosives residue? Who did it? Who said the countdown? Surely, you truthers can find the person who counted down over the bullhorn or made the announcements? So you guys base your definitive assertion on a video? Totally and utterly ridiculous. Forensic evidence...hmmm...Alex Jones doesn't have it. Trish Jones doesn't have it. Steven Jones doesn't have it...That should tell you something. Dr. Steven Jones, supposedly a scientist, has seemingly forgotten about the scientific method. His theory is untestable. That should also tell you something.

It's like saying, "UFOs exist!" Well, how do you know? "Watch this video, that's definitely a UFO!" Uh ok...Do you have a piece of a UFO? A whole UFO? Anything? NO...


So Osama was the one who did it... Then why are the attacks of 9/11 not included on the FBI "Osama Bin Laden" website as crimes he is suspected of? lack of evidence???? Guess so... so why did we go after him to begin with... for 911 right??? just using your thought process here...




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Date of Photograph Unknown


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DESCRIPTION


Date of Birth: 1957 Hair: Brown
Place of Birth: Saudi Arabia Eyes: Brown
Height: 6' 4" to 6' 6" Complexion: Olive
Weight: Approximately 160 pounds Sex: Male
Build: Thin Nationality: Saudi Arabian
Occupation: Unknown
Remarks: Bin Laden is the leader of a terrorist organization known as Al-Qaeda, "The Base". He is left-handed and walks with a cane.
Scars and Marks: None



CAUTION

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REWARD

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Posted by culorut on Nov-06-2008 13:57:

Don't bother dcougar99, Krypton believes the official story is 100% true and is in complete denial like b.s.e. mentioned.

He cannot admit to either because he would serve no purpose in these threads if he did, he is arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

Everyone and their grandmother knows the official story cannot be true, some people will never be able to live with it because that's what the truth does. It makes people upset.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
So Osama was the one who did it... Then why are the attacks of 9/11 not included on the FBI "Osama Bin Laden" website as crimes he is suspected of? lack of evidence???? Guess so... so why did we go after him to begin with... for 911 right??? just using your thought process here...


OBL had foreknowledge of the attacks: CLICK

OBL says he ordered the attacks: CLICK ... "Each state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security." ... "To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security." ... "We fought you because we are free .... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," he said.

OBL claims to have personally led the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK

OBL claims to have instructed Mohammed Atta: CLICK ... "It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."

OBL was videotaped with TWO of the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK


Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Don't bother dcougar99, Krypton believes the official story is 100% true and is in complete denial like b.s.e. mentioned.

He cannot admit to either because he would serve no purpose in these threads if he did, he is arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

Everyone and their grandmother knows the official story cannot be true, some people will never be able to live with it because that's what the truth does. It makes people upset.


Woe to me, who dares question your religious conspiracy dogma!

You idiots wouldn't know what truth is if it slapped you in the face. Why doesn't your movement go after someone, get the charged for treason? Oh, I forgot. You have no FUCKING EVIDENCE!


Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-06-2008 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
OBL had foreknowledge of the attacks: CLICK

OBL says he ordered the attacks: CLICK ... "Each state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security." ... "To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security." ... "We fought you because we are free .... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," he said.

OBL claims to have personally led the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK

OBL claims to have instructed Mohammed Atta: CLICK ... "It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."

OBL was videotaped with TWO of the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK


funny how the FBI missed all of this... must be credible for sure! Ill forward the links to the FBI so they can update the most wanted site!!!


Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-06-2008 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
OBL had foreknowledge of the attacks: CLICK

OBL says he ordered the attacks: CLICK ... "Each state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security." ... "To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security." ... "We fought you because we are free .... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," he said.

OBL claims to have personally led the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK

OBL claims to have instructed Mohammed Atta: CLICK ... "It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."

OBL was videotaped with TWO of the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK



Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
funny how the FBI missed all of this... must be credible for sure! Ill forward the links to the FBI so they can update the most wanted site!!!


Bhutto claimed that UBL was murdered a few years back.



Regardless if he's actually dead, he's a phantom; William Cooper is on dated video stating he would be used as a scapegoat for a black flag operation in June of 2001.

William Cooper, of course, was dead in November 2001.

Go figure.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
funny how the FBI missed all of this... must be credible for sure! Ill forward the links to the FBI so they can update the most wanted site!!!


I know its easy for a truther to dismiss reality, I understand, I truly do.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Bhutto claimed that UBL was murdered a few years back.



Regardless if he's actually dead, he's a phantom; William Cooper is on dated video stating he would be used as a scapegoat for a black flag operation in June of 2001.

William Cooper, of course, was dead in November 2001.

Go figure.


He is a phantom, no doubt. We missed him. I think it's pointless for us to be occupying Afghanistan anymore.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I know its easy for a truther to dismiss reality, I understand, I truly do.


The reality that he wasn't behind the attacks?

How do you take one statement over the other? He denied responsibility for the attacks. The 2004 tape is clearly a fake, at any rate. Use some discretion, really.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 21:42:

http://www.welfarestate.com/wtc/faketape/

It's so obvious. I look forward to your response of how it's real.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-06-2008 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99


oh look, its 2005 again! good to see the usual suspects still lying through their teeth!

idiot.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
The reality that he wasn't behind the attacks?

How do you take one statement over the other? He denied responsibility for the attacks. The 2004 tape is clearly a fake, at any rate. Use some discretion, really.


WTF are you talking about? He denied it initially, but then, subsequently admitted everything. I know you'll just blow over this post...

quote:
OBL had foreknowledge of the attacks: CLICK

OBL says he ordered the attacks: CLICK ... "Each state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security." ... "To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security." ... "We fought you because we are free .... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," he said.

OBL claims to have personally led the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK

OBL claims to have instructed Mohammed Atta: CLICK ... "It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."

OBL was videotaped with TWO of the 9/11 hijackers: CLICK


So let's just agree to disagree k?


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