Plugin for surround panning in stereo signal?

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Posted by lenieNt Force on Nov-12-2008 01:08:

Plugin for surround panning in stereo signal?

anybody know of a good plugin for panning not only in the x field, but also in y and z field? With HRTF or something? I've got one plugin but its old and it crashes all the time..

(HRTF = Head-Related Transfer Functions)

Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-12-2008 04:46:

x=left to right?
y=Front to back?
z=??? Up down?

Are you sure you would include z as well? Bear in mind sorround sound is actually two dimensional. I don't think I've heard of height being a part of any setup.

Posted by Zombie0729 on Nov-12-2008 06:11:

maybe he's talking about z as in depth meaning reverb?

Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-12-2008 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
maybe he's talking about z as in depth meaning reverb?

He said panning, and reverb is plenty accounted for.

Posted by kitphillips on Nov-12-2008 08:41:

You can create a good approximation of the Z plane using HRTFs. Look it up. But I can't see how it would work in any context other than on headphones, in a club I think you'd just get all sorts of nasty phasing problems...

Posted by lenieNt Force on Nov-12-2008 17:26:

in a sound picture, the x field is panning, y field is the frequency spectrum, with bass in the bottom, and z is usually considered to be reverb and delay which creates depth. So forget that I said y.. The human ear has much more trouble pinpointing sounds in the y field than x and z field due to its construction. Forget y..

But you can also pan instruments in the Z axis with HRTF.. without using reverb..

So... any ideas on a good hrtf panning plugin?

Posted by pwnage1 on Nov-12-2008 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by lenieNt Force
in a sound picture, the x field is panning, y field is the frequency spectrum, with bass in the bottom, and z is usually considered to be reverb and delay which creates depth. So forget that I said y.. The human ear has much more trouble pinpointing sounds in the y field than x and z field due to its construction. Forget y..

But you can also pan instruments in the Z axis with HRTF.. without using reverb..

So... any ideas on a good hrtf panning plugin?
what about volume isn't that y?

Posted by lenieNt Force on Nov-13-2008 23:08:

well what I described is just a common model that suggests how you can see a sound picture. If you would want a dB scale to be a part of this I guess you would need another diemension.. I suppose you are thinking about a model in which amplitude is y and time is x, but thats a different model, describing something else. Namely how the waveform looks like, and the amplitude of the waves.