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Trance is fading, My take on things

The name of this site is tranceaddict, however, I find more discussion about other electronic music (house, techno etc.) all of which I despise. The reason for my complete disliking of these other variants of electronic music is simple; Trance has made such a profound impact on my life unlike any other form of music. I have found Trance in particular to be very emotional and inspiring, unlike any other form of music I have ever listened to. From my stance. These other variants of electronic music lack emotion. It seems as if they are more "beaty" and boxy and more repetitive than trance. I almost get the feel im listening to hip hop or even some old jazzy bit when I listen to these other variants of electronic music. It affects me greatly to see this transition taking place between the once popular trance from the late 90's to early 2000s into a more "beaty" boxy music movement. I find so many House, Progressive and Techno songs are ever so similar beyond just the base beat. Trance seems to require more skill in making for surely I can put together a beat and some off set chord with ease and try to make it big. What we need is more creativity and less conforming. Less followers and more innovators. Until that Im afraid Trance will continue to decline and we will see our music becoming much like politics of today's society-full of zombies.

Too easy...

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Originally posted by Riisk I find so many House, Progressive and Techno songs are ever so similar beyond just the base beat. Trance seems to require more skill in making for surely I can put together a beat and some off set chord with ease and try to make it big. What we need is more creativity and less conforming. Less followers and more innovators. Until that Im afraid Trance will continue to decline and we will see our music becoming much like politics of today's society-full of zombies.

The sad thing is, trance declined because of the reasons you state above. A lack of creativity, too much conforming, and simple by-the-numbers production. Nobody was doing anything creative with it anymore (for the most part).

There's nothing wrong with liking trance, and I still listen to trance from time-to-time, but it's easy to understand why a lot of people have moved on. There is a lot more innovation in house and techno, and a lot more room for creativity. Not that there aren't producers guilty of the same in these genres.

Three other problems that today's trance has are that:
- Every track wants to outshine the next. This is more the fault of DJs than producers, IMO. Trance DJs usually don't "build a set", they just hammer out track after track with no ebb-and-flow or sense of direction.
- Overproduction. Trance producers usually don't seem to understand the concept that sometimes "less is more".
- Wanting to appeal to a mainstream audience, which waters the genre down.

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Originally posted by Riisk Until that Im afraid Trance will continue to decline and we will see our music becoming much like politics of today's society-full of zombies.

that's just ignorant. it's not like all these genres just popped out of nowhere, or are new in any way.

in fact house and techno have been around just as long, if not longer, than trance in the first place.

kindly fuck off.

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Originally posted by denys envy that's just ignorant. it's not like all these genres just popped out of nowhere, or are new in any way. in fact house and techno have been around just as long, if not longer, than trance in the first place. kindly fuck off.

Of all the ridiculous bullshit in that post, you chose to pick up on that?

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Originally posted by Riisk I almost get the feel im listening to hip hop or even some old jazzy bit when I listen to these other variants of electronic music.

Because we all know jazz is completely devoid of emotion.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Of all the ridiculous bullshit in that post, you chose to pick up on that?

well most of it was feelings. which is like, fine whatever, stupid people have feelings too.

but fact is fact, shouldn't fuck with it.

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Originally posted by Riisk The name of this site is tranceaddict, however, I find more discussion about other electronic music (house, techno etc.) all of which I despise. The reason for my complete disliking of these other variants of electronic music is simple; Trance has made such a profound impact on my life unlike any other form of music. I have found Trance in particular to be very emotional and inspiring, unlike any other form of music I have ever listened to. From my stance. These other variants of electronic music lack emotion. It seems as if they are more "beaty" and boxy and more repetitive than trance. I almost get the feel im listening to hip hop or even some old jazzy bit when I listen to these other variants of electronic music. It affects me greatly to see this transition taking place between the once popular trance from the late 90's to early 2000s into a more "beaty" boxy music movement. I find so many House, Progressive and Techno songs are ever so similar beyond just the base beat. Trance seems to require more skill in making for surely I can put together a beat and some off set chord with ease and try to make it big. What we need is more creativity and less conforming. Less followers and more innovators. Until that Im afraid Trance will continue to decline and we will see our music becoming much like politics of today's society-full of zombies.

You should express your bitterness by disowning dance music and listening to noise instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_(music)

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Thanks for the welcoming comments. I see I have angered the beat thumpers. No longer will I visit this site. My musical intrests are not that of yours and clearly your rudeness is something that comes with the modern day society. My post was about feelings I clearly stated that in the subject. I cant tell you what to like and nor can you. So why be so belligerent towards me? Clearly im not welcome here and say what you want after this post. I sure as hell wont read it. Bye Bye

My recommendation was semi-serious. Maybe you should try exploring some more kinds of music? Plenty of genres other than trance have melodies and lots of emotion. Try some post-rock, or chillout, or maybe even some of the house that you dismissed so easily...

He'll come back in a year and thank us when he's listening to some thumpin techno!

He called people who listen to house zombies but he's still claiming the high road? I do hope he sticks around.

poor lad he never had a chance

I love when people consider themselves as intellectuals, yet can not grasp the concept of a paragraph.

Just curious, what kind of trance do you like? What kind of trance music has this emotion that you speak of? What artists and DJs are you referring to.

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Originally posted by Riisk Thanks for the welcoming comments. I see I have angered the beat thumpers. No longer will I visit this site. My musical intrests are not that of yours and clearly your rudeness is something that comes with the modern day society. My post was about feelings I clearly stated that in the subject. I cant tell you what to like and nor can you. So why be so belligerent towards me? Clearly im not welcome here and say what you want after this post. I sure as hell wont read it. Bye Bye

Piss off, you haven't even discovered the good versions of trance

A lot of acid techno is very classic trancey as is tribal/prog house. Let alone trance wasn't really that trancey and quality post 95. Theres plenty of quality stuff, you haven't even begun to look hard enough.

recomended settage:
http://www.ektoplazm.com/files/DJ%20Basilisk%20-%20Live%20at%20Harvest%20Festival%202006.mp3
http://www.full-torqe.tiger-rider.com/DJ_Eccentric_-_PsyKo_Therepy_Oct-7-06.mp3
http://files.filefront.com/Welcome+to+Goa+week+Two+Agmp3/;9051290;/fileinfo.html
http://www.ektoplazm.com/files/DJ%20Nivoc%20-%20Infinity%20-%201996%20-%20MP3.zip

tranceaddict in training

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Originally posted by elFreak I love when people consider themselves as intellectuals, yet can not grasp the concept of a paragraph.

keep trying cheech things will work out in the end

Trance just isn't that great of club music. Go to some actual raves and you'll hear it.

Or if you are home listener, dig a little and you'll find loads of shit being produced all the time.

Don't worry mang, trance is pretty much the newest genre of music on the planet. It takes a while for stuff to become stable.

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Originally posted by mehta Don't worry mang, trance is pretty much the newest genre of music on the planet. It takes a while for stuff to become stable.

Uk garage 98ish I believe?
dubstep 2001/02 ish I believe?
Psy 97/98?
Goa 03?
Minimal 98?
Progressive 95?

All newer? Plus there's plenty that are around the same time. Those years are probably vastly wrong, however its by no means the newest genre. Hell house and techno have only been around since mid 80s.

minimal is older than 98

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Originally posted by Riisk The name of this site is tranceaddict, however, I find more discussion about other electronic music (house, techno etc.) all of which I despise. The reason for my complete disliking of these other variants of electronic music is simple; Trance has made such a profound impact on my life unlike any other form of music. I have found Trance in particular to be very emotional and inspiring, unlike any other form of music I have ever listened to. From my stance. These other variants of electronic music lack emotion. It seems as if they are more "beaty" and boxy and more repetitive than trance. I almost get the feel im listening to hip hop or even some old jazzy bit when I listen to these other variants of electronic music. It affects me greatly to see this transition taking place between the once popular trance from the late 90's to early 2000s into a more "beaty" boxy music movement. I find so many House, Progressive and Techno songs are ever so similar beyond just the base beat. Trance seems to require more skill in making for surely I can put together a beat and some off set chord with ease and try to make it big. What we need is more creativity and less conforming. Less followers and more innovators. Until that Im afraid Trance will continue to decline and we will see our music becoming much like politics of today's society-full of zombies.

2 words for you my man: Atmospheric DnB

I share your pain

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Uk garage 98ish I believe? dubstep 2001/02 ish I believe? Psy 97/98? Goa 03? Minimal 98? Progressive 95? All newer? Plus there's plenty that are around the same time. Those years are probably vastly wrong, however its by no means the newest genre. Hell house and techno have only been around since mid 80s.

I said "pretty much"

also:

uk garage fits into house

psy is a sub-genre of trance & it emerged at the same time (early 90s) - don't believe me, look up pioneers of the warped groove

goa? look above - only a psy/goa freak like you thinks it is a completely separate deal

minimal is techno

depending on what fucked up definition of progressive you have, it fits into other categories of edm easily

also trance basically comes right from techno. the early releases were all called "techno"

let's not kid ourselves here

it's all the same fuckin music, it all came from disco, and it's extremely recent.

by your reasoning you should be including electrohouse/mashup/blah blah blah

dubstep is a pretty good answer, that shit is fresh, but in my opinion it's just a weird crossbreed of garage and d&b slowed way down. not entirely new.

like none of it is new -

what differentiates trance is that it takes from everything and doesn't give a shit about defining itself.

bring it on

funny thing about your theory, kraftwerk and company came waaaaaaaaaaaay before disco

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