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Dr. Phil

Why the hate? I am neutral as I don't give a shit about anything somehow related to Oprah. Just curious.

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he's more talk show host than psychotherapist. i don't even think he uses different techniques.

Only in yankland.

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Originally posted by -FSP- he's more talk show host than psychotherapist. i don't even think he uses different techniques.

Isn't any talk show on TV?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Only in yankland.

I know we have shit TV. This is not relevant to the topic at hand.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Isn't any talk show on TV?

yes you are right about that. But if you want to solve your problems, it's not going to take 1 show. phil doesn't even investigate teh past of his guests in much depth. he uses the "change your mindset NOW, it's on YOU" technique of psychology or whatever, when maybe their past is the reason they are what they are.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Why the hate?

Maybe the fact that he's essentially taking advantage of people who are seriousely sick and need credible professional help and tricking them into believing that they're getting that help, all for his own profit?

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Originally posted by -FSP- yes you are right about that. But if you want to solve your problems, it's not going to take 1 show. phil doesn't even investigate teh past of his guests in much depth. he uses the "change your mindset NOW, it's on YOU" technique of psychology or whatever, when maybe their past is the reason they are what they are.

How is a change now and it's on you any different than a psychologist or psychiatrist? They still put it on you to start and enact the change now. The past is no excuse to continue bad behavior. Just a reason why it happened.

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Originally posted by Project-K Maybe the fact that he's essentially taking advantage of people who are seriousely sick and need credible professional help and tricking them into believing that they're getting that help, all for his own profit?

On the profit aspect, you could say that psychologists and psychiatrists are doing it for profit also. Although I do fully understand that they have gone through an accredited program at a university for this stuff to understand fully (at least at the time of instruction) the human psyche.

no doubt, you are right gehzumteufel. all im saying is there are more techniques out there, and because you only have an hour on tv, you have to make it tv friendly.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel How is a change now and it's on you any different than a psychologist or psychiatrist? They still put it on you to start and enact the change now. The past is no excuse to continue bad behavior. Just a reason why it happened.

How is a certified MD prescribing you antibiotics for a potentially lethal infection any different from a voodoo shaman masquerading as a certified professional giving you toxic potions that can potentially make your condition worse and kill you even faster?

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Originally posted by -FSP- no doubt, you are right gehzumteufel. all im saying is there are more techniques out there, and because you only have an hour on tv, you have to make it tv friendly.

Wholeheartedly agree.

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Originally posted by Project-K How is a certified MD prescribing you antibiotics for a potentially lethal infection any different from a voodoo shaman masquerading as a certified professional giving you toxic potions that can potentially make your condition worse and kill you even faster?

I am just playing devils advocate. I am enjoying this discussion. Not saying one is better than the other, just pointing it out for discussions sake.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I am just playing devils advocate. I am enjoying this discussion. Not saying one is better than the other, just pointing it out for discussions sake.

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out.

Don't you think there's a big difference between seeking compensation for a professional service and exploiting people with complete disregard to their health and well being?

Dr. Phil is a horse's ass.

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Probably the most hillarious thing about it is that it's pretty much a rewording of his wikipedia article.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I know we have shit TV. This is not relevant to the topic at hand.

It is, quite heavily.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I know we have shit TV.

Isn't that true regardless of the country?

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Originally posted by Project-K I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. Don't you think there's a big difference between seeking compensation for a professional service and exploiting people with complete disregard to their health and well being?

I do see a difference. One has a massive amount of education under their belt that the other does not usually have. They have a much better understanding of all the knowledge available at the time of their education in their respective field.

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Originally posted by Project-K dickipedia article Probably the most hillarious thing about it is that it's pretty much a rewording of his wikipedia article.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery It is, quite heavily.

Yeah because that is what makes someone shit.

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Originally posted by Lira Isn't that true regardless of the country?

Quite possibly, but I don't have access, nor do I care about TV in general. I hardly watch any of it.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Quite possibly, but I don't have access, nor do I care about TV in general. I hardly watch any of it.

Neither do I, really, but I've never heard anyone say TV is good in their country

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Originally posted by Lira Neither do I, really, but I've never heard anyone say TV is good in their country

Good point.

Get real!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Get real!

haha

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Yeah because that is what makes someone shit.

In this case, yes.

I hate the guy because he is not even a licensed psychiatrist anymore, there are reasons that texas did not reissue his license, and also he has blatantly violated HIPPA rules in the past. I don't care if the person he violated the rules for was so known for being crazy, it doesn't make it right. I don't mind aversive therapy when used in the right situation (this is where I blame the guests for even coming on the show) however I wonder about his true intentions.

Dr. Dru FTW

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Originally posted by amp3 I hate the guy because he is not even a licensed psychiatrist anymore, there are reasons that texas did not reissue his license, and also he has blatantly violated HIPPA rules in the past. I don't care if the person he violated the rules for was so known for being crazy, it doesn't make it right. I don't mind aversive therapy when used in the right situation (this is where I blame the guests for even coming on the show) however I wonder about his true intentions. Dr. Dru FTW

Agreed.

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