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Cubase 4 automation not shown?

I've just upgraded to Cubase 4 (LE) am having problems with automation being shown.

The volume lanes are there, but any other form of automation just isn't shown.

i.e. if I use the mouse to control the filter cutoff in predator while in write mode, upon playback the data is read back and the synth responds accordingly, but for some reason, no matter what I do, I can;t show the automation lane that corresponds (should be something like "filter cutoff").

Also, I can't show any automated sends or inserts for any channels. Again, I can see the changes recorded by looking at the sends section of the inspector on that particular track, but no automation lane is present.

I've tried the show all automation but it just shows volume automation lanes.

Any help greatly appreciated - this is driving me up the wall!!!

Right click and show all used automation for tracks.

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Originally posted by Subtle Right click and show all used automation for tracks.

Thanks for the quick response! - Sorry, should have said that I did that too and they're still not showing up.

BTW, I'm on a mac.

Any other suggestions....?

Your automation should be shown right at the bottom of the midi tracks if it is anything like Cubase SX3.

If volume is showing - click the small + sign to open another automation track, then just click where it says 'volume' or 'pan', and other automation should appear - including the one that you just wrote (it should have a * at the side of it).

If you cant follow that - I will try and upload some pics later.

TMP

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Originally posted by MessiahProject Your automation should be shown right at the bottom of the midi tracks if it is anything like Cubase SX3. If volume is showing - click the small + sign to open another automation track, then just click where it says 'volume' or 'pan', and other automation should appear - including the one that you just wrote (it should have a * at the side of it). If you cant follow that - I will try and upload some pics later. TMP

I know (as a former SX3 user) but for some reason when I click the small + sign once, I get the volume lane, then if I click that same button it closes.

So I look for the same + button on the volume lane (to expand it and if I remember correctly in SX3 the "Pan" lane should then show) and there is no button!

W T F ?

Anyone know if Cuabse 4 LE has some crazy bug or limitations in regards to automation? Help

I'm looking at a feature comparison chart for all versions of Cubase 4 and it doesn't say anything about the number of visible automation lanes being a limitation. Without being able to look at Cubase 4 LE, it does sound pretty weird that you can't open more than one lane. Not sure what else to tell you other than what has already been suggested. If you haven't done so already, try posting this question at the Cubase forum... http://www.cubase.net

Hey guys, i dont want to start a completely new thread since my question is similar. Ok so here it is:

Why isnt the automation working for ZEBRA plugin for cubase?
I use automation for all my plugins but zebra doesnt seem to work..
Any ideas?

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Originally posted by Emvy Hey guys, i dont want to start a completely new thread since my question is similar. Ok so here it is: Why isnt the automation working for ZEBRA plugin for cubase? I use automation for all my plugins but zebra doesnt seem to work.. Any ideas?

Well, after a load of digging, I'm beginning to think it's PREDATOR that has the problem, not cubase. Basically, I think the way the synth is written, does not match the standard VST/AU protocol, meaning that even though the synth will automate it's own knobs from read data (recorded in, then sent from cubase) Cubase doesn't know to match that to a standard automation perameter, hence no automation lane.

I think it's the same problem with the ZEBRA.

Please can anyone out there with either of these synths and Cubase confirm if you get full automation?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Please can anyone out there with either of these synths and Cubase confirm if you get full automation?

Yes, i tried both briefly and automation worked fine.

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Originally posted by Subtle Yes, i tried both briefly and automation worked fine.

Thanks! Did you get seperate automation lanes showing for specific controls (for instance filter cutoff?).

Also, what version of cubase and what version of predator.....maybe it's a bug with mine then...

Looks like I've figured out the the problem....

CUBASE LE 4 will only show one automation lane, and it does this based on priority , so if you have a volume change that will be the one you see, even if you have other parameters reading automation. You can record as much automation as you want but it will only ever show one lane at a time.

Time to give logic pro another shake then.......

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Looks like I've figured out the the problem.... CUBASE LE 4 will only show one automation lane, and it does this based on priority , so if you have a volume change that will be the one you see, even if you have other parameters reading automation. You can record as much automation as you want but it will only ever show one lane at a time. Time to give logic pro another shake then.......

use a real cubase version. LE is more or less just a toy.

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Originally posted by thecYrus use a real cubase version. LE is more or less just a toy.

Yes, I've just come to that realization. I'd been given it as I bought a presonus unit for someone and they didn't want the Cubase LE 4 disk.

I've found out you can only do 2 inserts per channel, 3 sends, and have a max track count of 48, which is basically useless for anything other than small acoustic projects. It's also only got one (small) mixer view and even though 4.5 update is out for every other version, they are probably not going to bother with LE.

As you said, it's literally a toy.

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