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FAO: Will or Nut

So I was watching the cinematic masterpiece that is "Twister" and it got me thinking. I grew up inside the boundary of tornado alley, and I'm well accustomed to tornado warnings on a regular basis and the like. But something about that otherwise stellar film bothered me.

The final tornado scene is in broad daylight. Now, this very well could be a simple matter of them wanting to be able to shoot the scene in the easiest fashion possible. But... in my entire life in the Midwest I can only remember one daytime tornado warning, and it didn't really amount to anything. In fact, we rarely if ever got severe weather during the daylight.

Is there some atmospheric thing that I'm not aware of that takes place at or after dusk making conditions more ripe for tornadic activity, or did I just live in a perfect location for storms to arrive across the plains at exactly sunset?

I know that tornados have occurred during the day before - but it seems to me that evening/night tornados are far more common.

Can a meteorologist weigh in?

We get tornados during the day time here in Georgia..

Tornadoes are made out of wind.

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Originally posted by nchs09 We get tornados during the day time here in Georgia..

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Originally posted by BTG Tornadoes are made out of wind.

HOLY SHIT.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov So I was watching the cinematic masterpiece that is "Twister"

Hey, were you watching it on TNT (or TBS) over the weekend, too?

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost Hey, were you watching it on TNT (or TBS) over the weekend, too?

HA! I was going to ask that, too. I did!

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost Hey, were you watching it on TNT (or TBS) over the weekend, too?

I think I caught it twice! hehe.

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Originally posted by Frenchie HA! I was going to ask that, too. I did!

I forgot that Philip Seymour Hoffman was in that!

That was before he got cool.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think I caught it twice! hehe.

They aired it two weeks in a row, but I forgot if they did the usual "I know, let's play it back to back."

Conveniently eats up about five hours, eh?

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost I forgot that Philip Seymour Hoffman was in that! That was before he got cool.

Seriously, he was such a nerd in that movie. And lol @ them blasting Van Halen - Humans Being like five times over the course of the film.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Seriously, he was such a nerd in that movie. And lol @ them blasting Van Halen - Humans Being like five times over the course of the film.

...and "Respect The Wind" during the end credits. Sure, it's a nice piece of music, but you just know Van Halen had his eyes tightly shut, cringing his face, gritting his teeth, throwing his head back, and clutching his guitar while playing it.

I love the mid 90's.

I just got my master's in meteorology last year, so I can weigh in on this a bit. Tornadoes are made of wind

the darkness makes the air cold, hence making it more likely to form a cone of death, which is also know as a twister. twisters are similar to tornados except they can only occur at night, a tornado is more powerful than a twister because is it powered by the sun,

simple really...

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Originally posted by ownymcown the darkness makes the air cold, hence making it more likely to form a cone of death, which is also know as a twister. twisters are similar to tornados except they can only occur at night, a tornado is more powerful than a twister because is it powered by the sun, simple really...

fuck me that was amazingly wrong

as far as the final scene is concerned:

think of this, tornadoes occur at 24 hours a day; but your stereotypcial/standard textbook tornadoes usually occur actually during the afternoon/early evening off of a supercell.

supercells are often discrete entities that are surrounded by clear skies all around them.

granted, Twister has some flaws, but it is definitely plausable that you can see a tornado, with clear skies behind you. this would generally take place right as the convection begins to start (3-6pm timeframe in the central plains). its also plausable (as i've seen in chasing tornadoes myself) that you can see clear skies or at least clearING skies in the vicinity of the rear-flank downdraft

this type of tornadic activity is more common in the "tornado alley"; however tornadoes happen all over the united states (nachoes remembers the one that hit atlanta at night).

gotta run to class - will post some pics later, which will show you some of the things i'm talking about.

c0r version: you can have tornadoes at any time of the day; and you can most definitely have daylight/clear skies all around just one singular cell/storm/funnel cloud

Interesting - you mention that supercells typically form between 3-6 pm in the central plains - is there any particular reason for that?

That strikes me as about right, since I lived on the Eastern edge of the plains and most of our activity came between 7-10 pm.

If a fart becomes a tornado, is it a twasster?

Hahaha. Twister is one of the shittest movies ever made.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Interesting - you mention that supercells typically form between 3-6 pm in the central plains - is there any particular reason for that? That strikes me as about right, since I lived on the Eastern edge of the plains and most of our activity came between 7-10 pm.

on a typical tornado outbreak day you have the following:

1) a really strong inversion/cap(i.e. there is a layer in the atmosphere where upward vertical motion is no longer possible)

2) surface based boundary (i.e. dry-line , cold front, etc...)

3) clear skies all morning/early afternoon long

4) hot air mass east of the boundary (moist as well...dewpoints above 60F).

when you have the clear skies, you're getting heat all day long from the sun....all this heat builds and builds and eventually will cause the inversion/cap to break. if the heat does not do this alone, then the surface boundary will.

and when is the hottest part of the day? around 3-6pm during the spring/summer months. once the inversion/cap is busted, the heat rises rapidly upward transferring from convective potential energy to kinetic energy.

thus begins the thunderstorm.

if you have cloud cover in the morning/afternoon, you will not get as much heat, and thus your cap/inversion will not break (even w/ surface boundary, sometimes), and no svr wx will occur.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

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Originally posted by BTG Tornadoes are made out of wind.

and occasional cows and trucks

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