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How to create Radio Sets?

hi guys

my first activity here, is a question:

we all know the many sets, like Essential Mix, Selcetion, RadioFG , F** me im famos etc.

my question is, which software they use to create those sets?
they do it by weekly, so of corse a david guetta not stay every week in his studio in front of 3 cdj and mix and record a set for a radioshow.

they should use a other way..

first i was thinking they use software like mixmeister

but i think they do it with other...


what you think, how they make it?

hope to get a good idea.

Essential Mix is dependent on the DJ mixing it - some of them do it on a pair of decks in their studio, some put it together in Ableton/Pro Tools or whatever and some are recorded live in a club.

It is actually quicker to record a radio show in one take with a pair of decks than it is to fake the whole thing on a computer (I've got a fair amount of experience doing it both ways), so unless he's really worried about messing the mixes up I expect Guetta DOES just record it in his studio on a set of CDJs. It's possible someone puts the music together for him then he records the talking over the top, but tbh it would still be less time consuming all round if it's just done in a single take.

Also remember that some of the shows on "proper" radio stations like Pete Tong's Essential Selection on Radio 1 are just done live from a studio at the station, while Judge Jules' show is pre-recorded because he's out DJing in clubs when it's on the air, but he still goes in to the studio at the station to record it.


But if you were to forge a radio show (i.e. not in real-time), Ableton, Pro Tools or even Sony Acid would probably be the favourites. Possibly Adobe Audition - I dunno if you can warp tracks with that.

Guetta would have enough experience mixing to not worry about fucking up a set imo. I doubt they do it any other way but live. Some shows may be prerecorded, or edited in some ways, but I think most are done live.

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Originally posted by PutBoy Guetta would have enough experience mixing to not worry about fucking up a set imo. I doubt they do it any other way but live. Some shows may be prerecorded, or edited in some ways, but I think most are done live.

Dude the show airs at 3 a.m. Saturday in Britain. Yea right it's live. It's pre-recorded but obviously done in one shot.

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Originally posted by PutBoy Guetta would have enough experience mixing to not worry about fucking up a set imo. I doubt they do it any other way but live. Some shows may be prerecorded, or edited in some ways, but I think most are done live.

guetta can't mix for shit, false.

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Originally posted by elFreak guetta can't mix for shit, false.

You just failed at being pompous, sir. You have to do it right, and you just did it wrong.

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Originally posted by Adam420 Dude the show airs at 3 a.m. Saturday in Britain.

And the problem is? DJ's are naturally morning-people you mean?

i just record on my decks and then add the vocals over top as a "new layer" per say

Not regular on the forum, but would like to give my inputs.

Im aware that Armin mixes his ASOT using ableton. Also they are prerecorded as I remember reading that since he travels so much he compiles the show in his hotel rooms/on aircrafts et al.

i am not trying to be pompous...i have seen guetta live unfortunately and he can't mix...end of story.

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Originally posted by Dj Gracjan i just record on my decks and then add the vocals over top as a "new layer" per say

+1

or just make your mixes un-tight when ur planning on talking so u have time to talk before the melody/bulk of the song actually kicks in

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Originally posted by elFreak i am not trying to be pompous...i have seen guetta live unfortunately and he can't mix...end of story.

Yea I got dragged to seeing him at Opera one night. Needless to say I was suffering the whole time.

1. Get your crew to pick the tracks for you
2. Get someone to warp then for you in Ableton
3. Profit

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Originally posted by PutBoy And the problem is? DJ's are naturally morning-people you mean?

No, most big DJs are playing in a club somewhere at that time.

Nearly all the big boys pre-record it, rather than live (unless it's actually a live event). They mainly do it in one shot, then add the segment sections, ad breaks, promos, edit etc, after the fact.

these days there's really not that much advantage to doing it live - the technology is there so that it doesn't need to be.

I do know that judge jules used to do it live on R1 and Graham Gold also used to do it live on kiss, but JJ doesn't anymore and GG is not on air?

Remember though, all the big guys have a radio producer (or two) or at least assistants/engineers to help.

Mr Mystery is spot on with some of the big guys though.....

I agree with Rann here. And tools such as ableton allow you to compose a 2 hour radio show in less then that .

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Originally posted by Adam420 Dude the show airs at 3 a.m. Saturday in Britain. Yea right it's live. It's pre-recorded but obviously done in one shot.

Not true. I host a weekly radio show in here and I do it live 10pm-1am. If the next person does not show up, sometimes I spin until 5am in the radio station...

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Originally posted by yogi bear Not true. I host a weekly radio show in here and I do it live 10pm-1am. If the next person does not show up, sometimes I spin until 5am in the radio station...

What would someone get paid for such a gig (10pm-5am)?

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Originally posted by yogi bear Not true. I host a weekly radio show in here and I do it live 10pm-1am. If the next person does not show up, sometimes I spin until 5am in the radio station...

Any sane well known dj wouldn't be spending a late night in a radio studio if he could have earned triple the money with a crowd.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Any sane well known dj wouldn't be spending a late night in a radio studio if he could have earned triple the money with a crowd.

+1 radio DJ's (even radio personalities) are notoriously badly paid - in fact the industry has bugger all compared to other mainstream media.

Even Chris Moyles, Radio 1 biggest listener draw gets a measly 600,000GPB per year (fair enough it's not a commercial station) but Johnny Vaughn at his peak on the biggest commercial station got 1m GBP per year.

Might sound like a lot to the factory worker, but you have to realize that these guys were the top in their field and best paid in their industry - name any other industry where if you were that famous or have that much appeal and would still settle for that low money?

Sports, No. Fashion, No. TV, no. Music, No. Technology, no. Art, No.

Even some division 1 football players that you've never heard of (or ever will) get paid more than that.

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Originally posted by elFreak guetta can't mix for shit, false.

even though i dont like david guetta... his em of 05 or something is 100% sick. One of my favorite ems.

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Originally posted by yogi bear Not true. I host a weekly radio show in here and I do it live 10pm-1am. If the next person does not show up, sometimes I spin until 5am in the radio station...

The difference being that Guetta had bookings coming out of his arsehole and you obviously don't, otherwise you wouldn't be doing an extra 4 hours on your radio show just for the crack of it.

Not having a go, just saying...

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Originally posted by Storyteller I agree with Rann here. And tools such as ableton allow you to compose a 2 hour radio show in less then that .

Of course it depends on who you are and what you do, but I disagree with that general - whenever I've personally used Ableton to put together a radio show or a podcast, it's taken about twice as long as it would have done to do it live and I know various people who have said the same about their own radio shows and mix compilation CDs etc - it's generally accepted that the only reason to 'fake' it is to make it perfect, it ends up taking longer to do.

I'm not saying no one can do it quicker than the show length, but generally I've heard a lot of people saying it doesn't tend to happen like that.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox The difference being that Guetta had bookings coming out of his arsehole and you obviously don't, otherwise you wouldn't be doing an extra 4 hours on your radio show just for the crack of it.

True, I dont have as many bookings as Guetta, but I dont do the radio show "just for the crack of it" ...

what do you do it for then?

i see, ableton or sony acid are preferred...but in ableton you have to set the cue many time in each track to wrap it over the next song...if this is really so, it takes a lot of time (as i tryd to do it and take from tutorial from youtube..)

i will try sony acid pro, i looks from tutorials much easyer than ableton.

have somebody expirince with this - or both?

happy new year!

I do a 30 minute mix every week on facebook for my dj group and I use sony soundforge to record from my mixer/CD/Vinyl in one shot sometimes with a mic, and VDJ as a sampler for drops, I then cut the mix up into individual tracks, upload to divshare.com and post on facebook.com

here is an example

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