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CDJ 200 vs. MK3

Just wondering everybodies thoughts on this. You will think I am crazy, but the 400 model is the best IMO I just couldn't afford it. As far as the MK 3's go, I am not a bloghouse electro funk DJ so all those bells and whistles don't mean shit to me. Then when you look at the price difference...it's like damn. Sure, the mk3 has a better wheel. Big whoop though. The tables allow you to find a perfect BPM because of their very accurate and sensitive pitch control so what exactly do you need a leet wheel for? I know I don't.

As a trance DJ who really likes to let the tracks breathe on their own I really don't see how an MK3 would be so much better, especially when you look at pricing.

Maybe the mk4 will be great, but for a typical trance DJ you don't need anything better than a 200. Just my opinion. What's yours?

they both have the same accuracy

My honest advise, dont buy CDJ-200s, jog is loosy and shit.
It's better to wait and buy 400s in my opinion

jogwheel on 400 is shit too

No it's not.

I own 1000's, and find the 400's very nice to play on.

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Originally posted by Yohan jogwheel on 400 is shit too

The 200s are good, but the jog on the 1000 is infinitely better.

Simple: If you can aford the 1000s then get them, there are other nice features like the track display that make them lovely to use.

If you're on a budget then the 200s are great units. Just not as good as the 1000s.

And if you ever have any intention of using a DVS (Serato, Traktor Scratch Pro), do NOT get the 200's. You want a player with vinyl emulation.

Using CDJ-400's with Serato in HID (native) mode is the bomb.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 No it's not. I own 1000's, and find the 400's very nice to play on.

ive also used the 400 and im not happy with the jog wheel

Why? It feels the same as the 800/1000, only smaller...

Have you played a whole set on them? Non-issue IMO.

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Originally posted by Yohan ive also used the 400 and im not happy with the jog wheel

I have a 400 and a 1000 mk3 set up at the moment. The jog wheel on the 400 is a bit small but its fine to use. Its obviously not as good as the mk3 tho.

Re: CDJ 200 vs. MK3

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley Just wondering everybodies thoughts on this. You will think I am crazy, but the 400 model is the best IMO I just couldn't afford it. As far as the MK 3's go, I am not a bloghouse electro funk DJ so all those bells and whistles don't mean shit to me. Then when you look at the price difference...it's like damn. Sure, the mk3 has a better wheel. Big whoop though. The tables allow you to find a perfect BPM because of their very accurate and sensitive pitch control so what exactly do you need a leet wheel for? I know I don't. As a trance DJ who really likes to let the tracks breathe on their own I really don't see how an MK3 would be so much better, especially when you look at pricing. Maybe the mk4 will be great, but for a typical trance DJ you don't need anything better than a 200. Just my opinion. What's yours?

I'd say don't underestimate the 800s.

so 800s or 1000's ?

the jog wheel on the 400s is straight. a lot better than the 200s fo sho.

My summary:

CDJ-1000MK3's - Get these if you have a lot of money, and don't mind the fact that within the next year Pioneer will release a pro player with features from the CDJ-400 (likely even better, of course). Nothing really wrong with these decks, but they are really pretty no frills for the exorbitant price Pioneer charges based on their legacy.

CDJ-800MK2's - Get these if you want the large platter of the 1000, but don't want to spend the huge price jump for the 1000's for the few features you gain. If you intend to use a DVS (Serato, Traktor Pro, etc.) the 800's + DVS will give you all the features of the 1000 and more (except the .02 accuracy, but that's really not a huge deal).

CDJ-400's - Around the same price as the 800's... but with the accuracy of the 1000's, with effects, USB storage support, and MIDI/HID connectivity. If you don't mind the smaller platter, these are the most advanced Pioneer decks out there. Pioneer clearly left out features like the wave display and hot cues on purpose.

CDJ-200's - A great budget deck. The lack of vinyl emulation will limit your use with a DVS, but for basic mixing they are solid.

You can't really go wrong with any of the Pioneer decks, and if you know how to play on one type, you will have NO issues going to another. And if you do, practice a LOT more

And yes, I've played on them all, and personally have 2 CDJ-1000MK2's.

Buy what you can reasonably afford and feels the best to you.

I will say the MK3's are an industry standard for a reason. Theyre just that good.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 .....and don't mind the fact that within the next year Pioneer will release a pro player with features from the CDJ-400 (likely even better, of course).....

Do you have any other info on this? I'd be interested to hear more, I'd certainly consider trading my 1000mk3s in for a later model.....

Nothing official of course, but right now they have the CDJ-400, and if you haven't looked at their MEP-7000 dual deck, it has a LOT of really cool stuff in it.

It's only inevitable that the next step is a pro-level single deck with these features.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Do you have any other info on this? I'd be interested to hear more, I'd certainly consider trading my 1000mk3s in for a later model.....

MkII's > MkIII's > 200

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY MkII's > MkIII's

Explain!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 And if you ever have any intention of using a DVS (Serato, Traktor Scratch Pro), do NOT get the 200's. You want a player with vinyl emulation. Using CDJ-400's with Serato in HID (native) mode is the bomb.

I have no problems using my 200s with Serato. Why is vinyl mode necessary? I haven't gotten a chance to use 800s/1000s...

It's just nicer. Don't you find it annoying using stutter mode, since auto-cue doesn't really work the same with Serato?

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 It's just nicer. Don't you find it annoying using stutter mode, since auto-cue doesn't really work the same with Serato?

I always use stutter-mode when DJing. Pinpoints the cue point to the millisecond.

I personally own and use a pair of CDJ400s and I have no problems with them at all theyre great. Would like hot cues on them though ha. Besides that i think after getting the 400s it would be much more beneficial to a DJ to upgrade in terms of mixers and effects units rather than CDJs.

To the comment about only needing 200s to be a proffessional Trance DJ I have to disagree as well. To be a successfull and 'good' DJ, in my opinion, you need to constantly find ways to keep the crowd entertained and excited by keeping a good flow, and unfortunately, just 'letting the tracks breathe' is not a good way to do this. In the long run a DJ will reach a point where he needs the means to play a seamless and well flowing mix; I just don't think you can do that on the 200s.

Re: CDJ 200 vs. MK3

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley As far as the MK 3's go, I am not a bloghouse electro funk DJ so all those bells and whistles don't mean shit to me... ...As a trance DJ who really likes to let the tracks breathe on their own I really don't see how an MK3 would be so much better, especially when you look at pricing. Maybe the mk4 will be great, but for a typical trance DJ you don't need anything better than a 200. Just my opinion. What's yours?

I don't get what you are trying to say. Do you want to buy cdj units? Or are you arbitrarily bringing up silly conclusions using vague generalities to spark discussion?
Bloghouse electro funk dj...that is awesome, as well as the most pretentious train fuck wreck mish mash of labeling I've come across. Those bells and whistles can be used by anybody if they are used right.
But since you are a "typical trance DJ who wants their tracks to breathe "(whatever that means) I too, doubt you will need extra complexities, seeing as you probably wouldn't even know what to do with them.
So you are right in your own aspect. Your tracks are probably mixed towards the beginning and end, so stick with what you need: nothing more than a set of plain old tables and a good mixer.

That is my opinion.

Close this shit.

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