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Posted by Zomg on Dec-15-2008 02:56:

What to do "Question mark"

Well basicly i was just wondering what to do once you have reached a low but certain level. Once you can make some sounds, are able to use programs like Ableton and stuff, know little about mastering. Should i go back to the books, and try to get as many tutorials soundproducing mastering etc., or should i just get more synths and just "DO" stuff ??


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-15-2008 03:01:

Write some tracks?


Posted by Zomg on Dec-15-2008 03:13:

well ofcourse, but imagine that you are already making tracks which do not sound pro, they sound alot better than when you started, but if you compare them to anything "real" it shows that your�s is not .


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-15-2008 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Zomg
well ofcourse, but imagine that you are already making tracks which do not sound pro, they sound alot better than when you started, but if you compare them to anything "real" it shows that your�s is not .

Post them up and ask people what you need to fix in terms of sound?


Posted by Zomg on Dec-15-2008 03:20:

well that is one, thx!! but i see you are aiming more at the "do "stuff instead of "get theoretical" alright, will do


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-15-2008 03:31:

Honestly I would worry less about the "sound" of your tracks than whether they contain decent musical ideas in the first place. Way too many tracks out there that "sound professional" but have no heart in them. Once you have something that you think will move people, you can always upgrade the quality of sounds and mixing as you learn more.


Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Dec-15-2008 03:44:

Just keep doing your tracks. Sure, the quality of your tracks might not improve massively after one new track. But in the long run (years and years) you'll start noticing massive changes without really thinking about it.

I personally have never really liked the idea of tutorials/books etc on producing. I'd much rather try things out for myself and see how it goes. When I began fooling around with music production, I didn't even know there was forums/tutorials etc since internet access was pretty limited due to 56k modem-connection.

I think way to many people nowdays that start with music production is too fanatic with finding tutorials for everything. Of course tutorials can be good, but I personally feel that it's a lazy-mans way to progress where you miss out alot trial-and-error experience which may result in additional knowledge then just acquire it directly.

With enough dedication, you will with time probably achieve what you want. No need to rush, just let it take the time. As long as you're having fun doing it, it shouldn't be a problem.


Posted by Zomg on Dec-15-2008 17:48:

well alright, thanks guys!!


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-15-2008 17:58:

Indiana Jones: You want to be a good archaeologist...
[Mutt drives them out of the building on his motorcycle]
Indiana Jones: ...you've got to get out of the library!


same goes with making music

you want to make good music? stop reading books and just forward all your knowledge and soul into actually making the music instead of learning how to, supposidly, "make" music. just remember, don't follow a formula with everything. the "perfect" sound gets old fast.


Posted by airwalker1 on Dec-15-2008 18:21:

learn about mastering and mix downs as you go along.

i can make tunes all day long and so now im trying to learn more about finding things so that my tracks balance out.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Dec-15-2008 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
Indiana Jones: You want to be a good archaeologist...
[Mutt drives them out of the building on his motorcycle]
Indiana Jones: ...you've got to get out of the library!


same goes with making music

you want to make good music? stop reading books and just forward all your knowledge and soul into actually making the music instead of learning how to, supposidly, "make" music. just remember, don't follow a formula with everything. the "perfect" sound gets old fast.


wow. original poster, skip right over the indiana analogy. Books, tutorials, threads from notable authors(especially on KVR) are a WONDERFUL insight into the many ways in which people get their tracks sounding 'pro'.

MrJiveBoJingles nailed it though. Spend time on your music. Not on your kick drum, not on your samples, not on your next synth purchase. If you're truly making good music then you'll find other things (like mixing, like sound design) become easier. That is for a variety of reasons way beyond the scope of this post.


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-15-2008 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
wow. original poster, skip right over the indiana analogy. Books, tutorials, threads from notable authors(especially on KVR) are a WONDERFUL insight into the many ways in which people get their tracks sounding 'pro'.

MrJiveBoJingles nailed it though. Spend time on your music. Not on your kick drum, not on your samples, not on your next synth purchase. If you're truly making good music then you'll find other things (like mixing, like sound design) become easier. That is for a variety of reasons way beyond the scope of this post.


i just think it's an odd question to ask..

what else should you do when you know the basics? i mean seriously; experiment, hang around forums and just make music. i'm not saying you shouldn't learn things along the way..


Posted by Zomg on Dec-15-2008 19:54:

Great posts, thanks alot!!

im guessing you are all right,so i might have to find a nice balance between "learn by doing" and reading about it while im going

i think my real problem is that i constantly doubt myself,
as in one day i think this track is great, but 2hours later im about to deleting everything, i get frustrated very quickly, thats why "learning by doing" is very hard for me.

but thanks anyway, ill try to be part indiana jones and take the theoretical things with me aswell.


Posted by airwalker1 on Dec-15-2008 20:14:

well just remember this not every one can make music.
and those who do have to work just as hard to get where they are right now


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-15-2008 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Zomg
Great posts, thanks alot!!

im guessing you are all right,so i might have to find a nice balance between "learn by doing" and reading about it while im going

i think my real problem is that i constantly doubt myself,
as in one day i think this track is great, but 2hours later im about to deleting everything, i get frustrated very quickly, thats why "learning by doing" is very hard for me.

but thanks anyway, ill try to be part indiana jones and take the theoretical things with me aswell.





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