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Posted by trancygirl24 on Dec-17-2008 09:15:

pads in trance

Hi all, apologize for my english, it's not perfect at all hehe.
I'd like to start producing trance music.
My question is about the pads/strings. If i want to use 4 or 5 pads notes at the same time in tune and of course doing some variation following the bassline and keep the harmony, is it the same theory used with piano or is it somethinng completely different?


Posted by djsphere on Dec-17-2008 09:18:

i think music theory applies to all kind of instruments....


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-17-2008 10:06:

No no, trance theory is completely different than any other music theory.


Posted by Stef on Dec-17-2008 12:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
No no, trance theory is completely different than any other music theory.


Oh stop you are going to scare off the poor girl


Posted by Fledz on Dec-17-2008 12:37:

There are no girls on the internet.


Posted by Final Call on Dec-17-2008 12:55:

you could always try tampons? i heard they work better?


Posted by trancygirl24 on Dec-17-2008 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Final Call
you could always try tampons? i heard they work better?


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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-17-2008 15:10:

Yes, the theory is basically the same.

A lot of trance uses very open chords for pads rather than plain triads. The level of dissonance and harmonic tension in trance is generally very low compared to classical.


Posted by offensive_newbi on Dec-17-2008 15:14:

Well music theory may apply and it might be at least a good guideline?
Everything dont have to end with V-I cadense and some chord progressions which might be inappropriate for traditional choral piece might work well in trance. Your ear is the best help though.

In modern music you can practically do anything you want. But i would still say that especially in 'euphoric' trance there still are
'(unwritten) rules' which you need to follow in order to make it sound euphoric. The problem with the rules is they tend to make everything sound same!


Posted by offensive_newbi on Dec-17-2008 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles


A lot of trance uses very open chords for pads rather than plain triads. The level of dissonance and harmonic tension in trance is generally very low compared to classical.


That is very true. I have always wanted to explore dissonances and perhaps even resolving them in euphoric trance without losing the euphoric feeling.

It might be an interesting idea for everyone to try.


Posted by trancygirl24 on Dec-17-2008 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by offensive_newbi
Well music theory may apply and it might be at least a good guideline?
Everything dont have to end with V-I cadense and some chord progressions which might be inappropriate for traditional choral piece might work well in trance. Your ear is the best help though.

In modern music you can practically do anything you want. But i would still say that especially in 'euphoric' trance there still are
'(unwritten) rules' which you need to follow in order to make it sound euphoric. The problem with the rules is they tend to make everything sound same!


Thanks,and about the harmony with the 4-5 pads lines (not the melody but pads/strings only), i need to use, minor chords, major chords.... ?


Posted by offensive_newbi on Dec-17-2008 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by trancygirl24
Thanks,and about the harmony with the 4-5 pads lines (not the melody but pads/strings only), i need to use, minor chords, major chords.... ?


Both of them?
Is this perhaps a troll thread?


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-17-2008 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by offensive_newbi
Both of them?
Is this perhaps a troll thread?


Has to be. There's a couple of blatent alts on here recently.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-17-2008 22:41:

Basically you want to sidechain all your melodies and give your chords more analog. That is the only reason trance doesn't sound like a piano sonata.

As for whether or not it should be major/minor etc, all trance tracks have to be written in Melodic Minor because trance is a melodic form of music. Other key signatures will not work and you will instead be making house or techno rather than trance if you use them.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-18-2008 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Walsh
Basically you want to sidechain all your melodies and give your chords more analog. That is the only reason trance doesn't sound like a piano sonata.

As for whether or not it should be major/minor etc, all trance tracks have to be written in Melodic Minor because trance is a melodic form of music. Other key signatures will not work and you will instead be making house or techno rather than trance if you use them.

Also, don't use Ableton or it will become electro house.


Posted by Tom Scott on Dec-20-2008 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Also, don't use Ableton or it will become electro house.


FL Studio = Trance, everyone knows that


Posted by Sonic_c on Dec-20-2008 15:39:

Please see the Music theory swap shop thread I started some great info from loads of people! I just did a where to go after this chord chart check that



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