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Posted by Swamper on Jun-05-2002 17:31:

Talking UnknownTracks.com Streaming is BACK!!!

Ok well it's not entirely a 'NEW' feature, it was around months ago but now it's back again...

I spent dozens of hours programming this thing late last year and I haven't really had the chance to implement it, so I'm doing it again now.

Basically it is a shoutcast stream that automatically pulls unidentified MP3 Samples from the Unknown Tracks section of the forums and streams them randomly.

The interface consists of a java applet that connects to a java server to get the streaming song information - so as you listen to the stream you can click on the 'Click to ID' button and have a new window open up with the thread that has that sample in it (as well as begin playing the sample again to verify it's the sample you heard - and if not, a link to listen to the song previously streamed)

Required:

Java Plug-in (Already in IE unless you have Windows XP)
RealPlayer 8 Basic (or higher)

The URL is www.unknowntracks.com - so go ahead and listen.

...Future things to add:

- Only listen to samples from a certain date range
- Only listen to samples posted for IDing by a certain user
- Only listen to samples who have been heard less than x # of times (to increase exposure/likelihood of a successful ID)

There might be some bugs, so if u find any please reply in this thread with them and be specific (OS/Browser/Real Player version).


Posted by El~ZaPo on Jun-05-2002 19:43:

It's working good for me.

One thing that would be nice is a feature to skip to the next song, in case listeners can't ID the current song.


Posted by inatrance on Jun-05-2002 22:15:

Is it possible there could be a high bit stream? 128/96 kbs? or would that take up too much bandwidth


Posted by Swamper on Jun-06-2002 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance
Is it possible there could be a high bit stream? 128/96 kbs? or would that take up too much bandwidth


The purpose of the stream is to identify short sound samples, not to act as a radio - 24Kbps/11025Hz Stereo is sufficient for this


Posted by Kid_Lax on Jun-06-2002 05:25:

the stream is working fine

but when i click on the button to i.d. the song
a new window pops up that says 'tranceaddict chatroom' as the title
but the page is just the main TA page, but for the last maybe 15% of the page a new frame is there and it has a bunch of random threads from the message board

and when i click the button to i.d. the stream automatically stops


btw, this is a great idea...i could (and am) just sitting here for hours just going about my internet business (shup up haha) and listening to parts of songs...its great
good work


Posted by warpedd_ on Jun-06-2002 10:52:

why not using mp3 streaming?


Posted by TimeportE on Jun-06-2002 10:55:

this way of id�ng tracks is WAY GOOD!!
and it works very good! keep it up!

*edit maybe an idea to keep an restriction to the amound of min. the track can have because i just listened to 2,5 min to a track i didn't know upped by Junkx.. mmm maybe an idea


Posted by Swamper on Jun-06-2002 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by warpedd_
why not using mp3 streaming?


Uh, it is MP3s that are being streamed, however Real Player is the ONLY player that can stream MP3s while embedded within a webpage _AND_ responds to javascript commands to stop playing (i.e. what happens when you press 'Click to ID') - these are two requirements that are necessary for all this to be integrated properly.

Kid_Lax - Regarding the chat window stuff, the file it loads after you click is dependant upon your screen resolution, I used the files I use for the chat room as a template and I guess I didn't change one of them, I just fixed it... wow.. that's been like that for months. Thanks - things are even faster now once you click the button.

TimportE - I already put that suggestion up in Unknown Tracks, if I have time I may cut down the 3+ minute tracks to 2 minutes, re-encode and post up again


Posted by one_deal on Jun-06-2002 15:28:

Thumbs down Not working

It's not working for me...

I have IE v6.0.2600.0000 and RP v6.0.5.27.

The error is "invalid resource path string in requested URL" and it gives this URL:
mem://0A7DCC20/http://www.tranceaddict.com/unknown.ram


Posted by Swamper on Jun-06-2002 15:54:

Re: Not working

quote:
Originally posted by one_deal
I have IE v6.0.2600.0000 and RP v6.0.5.27.


Maybe that Real Player version is messed up, 6.0.9.450 and above work, get a version here (basic) rp8-setup.exe


Posted by intrinsic on Jun-07-2002 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper


Uh, it is MP3s that are being streamed, however Real Player is the ONLY player that can stream MP3s while embedded within a webpage _AND_ responds to javascript commands to stop playing (i.e. what happens when you press 'Click to ID') - these are two requirements that are necessary for all this to be integrated properly.


mod_mp3 didnt work?


Posted by Swamper on Jun-07-2002 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by intrinsic


mod_mp3 didnt work?


mod_mp3 is a server-based solution, everything that is running the server works perfectly and interconnects flawlessly... The only possible modification would be the client used but as I said none other than Real Player allow embedding + controlling of the controls via javascript.


Posted by MaGiK54 on Jun-09-2002 02:12:

It works


Posted by rage on Jun-12-2002 14:30:

Yea it is a great idea. I don't think Real Player 8 works on OS X though..


Posted by CKYTEP on Jun-16-2002 09:00:

hmmm, its just streamed a sample of the song i posted and it was twice as slow and sounded like shit.


Posted by Swamper on Jun-17-2002 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
hmmm, its just streamed a sample of the song i posted and it was twice as slow and sounded like shit.


1) It only sounded like shit because your original sample sounded like shit

2) how can something be "twice as slow" - all tracks are the same length, so if you had some re-buffering that is not my problem, the interface and functionality is working fine

Lighten up, you'll live longer - all your posts are negative lately.


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Jun-28-2002 10:13:



Hmmm dunno if this is just happening to me Swamper
but whenever I click to ID, does not matter what sample it is, I get taken to the same page everytime and that thread is this one
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...?threadid=51025

And when I click the link to say it's not the sample I heard, it just goes back to the same sample that's on that thread with the link above.


Posted by Atlantis on Jul-13-2002 20:35:

Streaming works for me with Real Player 8.8 Basic and IE 5, but IDing isn't working. When I click to ID (for any clip), it won't take me to a thread. Instead, I see "No thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster," and when I click the play button of the RP on that page, the only thing I get is a warning from RealPlayer saying "Currently AutoUpdate has no plug-in available to play your selection."


Posted by olukko on Jul-19-2002 11:08:

Dancing Dude

Its working ok but...
wouldnt it be better to stream in mp3 using winamp
alot easier.


Posted by Swamper on Jul-22-2002 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by olukko
Its working ok but...
wouldnt it be better to stream in mp3 using winamp
alot easier.


It is an mp3 stream.

However Real Player is used because it is the ONLY player that can:

1) be embedded as an object within a webpage
2) support javascript calls to control playback


Posted by maluco on Aug-11-2002 20:43:

in my IE 5.5 real player work, but without info of track and my netscape 4.7 real player dont work, but the info is displayed (atleast i see who posted it)
The button still DONT work in both browsers.
Really the streaming tracks need to be developed better.

greetz


Posted by Klever on Aug-17-2002 06:46:

Dunno how much work it would be or if it is even possible but...

Does Winamp 3 support the webpage interaction?? Winamp comes with that Mini-browser, maybe that would be the answer.

Klever


Posted by Swamper on Aug-22-2002 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by orange4
in my IE 5.5 real player work, but without info of track and my netscape 4.7 real player dont work, but the info is displayed (atleast i see who posted it)
The button still DONT work in both browsers.
Really the streaming tracks need to be developed better.

greetz


Your setup has issues somewhere... it has nothing to do with being 'developed' betther - you're the first I've heard that has any problems, any computer/browser combo I try it on, it works....

Also, Netscape is crap.


Posted by maluco on Sep-01-2002 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper

Your setup has issues somewhere... it has nothing to do with being 'developed' betther - you're the first I've heard that has any problems, any computer/browser combo I try it on, it works....

Also, Netscape is crap.


okay, unknowntracks.com streaming is perfected.


Posted by T-Funk on Sep-13-2002 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Also, Netscape is crap.

u mean nutscrape


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