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Posted by otec on Dec-22-2008 16:36:

Turkey to buy 32 Mi-28 attack helicopters from Russia

quote:
Turkey to buy 32 Mi-28 attack helicopters from Russia - report

ANKARA, December 22 (RIA Novosti) - Turkey plans to buy 32 used Mi-28 (Havoc) helicopters from Russia in a deal worth a total of $1 billion, a national Turkish daily reported on Monday.

Vatan said the decision to buy helicopters from Russia was made after talks for purchases of Cobra and Super Cobra helicopter gunships failed with the United States.

Russian helicopters will tide Turkey over until deliveries of Agusta A-129 Mangusta helicopters, co-produced with Italy's Agusta Westland, are received by the Turkish Armed Forces. The Italian company won a tender for the production of 52 helicopters in 2007.

The Turkish Defense Ministry has yet to officially confirm the report by Vatan.

The Mi-28 is an all-weather day-night attack helicopter manufactured by the Rostvertol plant in southern Russia.


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Looks like Russian arms export is getting better and better.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-22-2008 16:37:

Neat.


Posted by otec on Dec-22-2008 16:46:

Mi-28


But though Mi-28 is cool, it doesn't even get close to this baby.

Ka-52


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-22-2008 17:04:

and not even close to this bad boy:


Posted by otec on Dec-22-2008 17:05:

Apache is too slow.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-22-2008 17:37:


Posted by Kinezi on Dec-22-2008 19:15:

Turkey should liberate Iraq.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-22-2008 19:24:

Cause that wouldn't make things worse.


Posted by Kinezi on Dec-22-2008 19:25:

And restore peace back in region.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-22-2008 19:32:

Somehow I don't think an invasion by secular Muslims that have a history of stomping on the Kurds is a recipe for peace in a religious country with a large population of Kurds.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-22-2008 20:00:

You all fail.




Posted by otec on Dec-22-2008 21:59:

Krypton, What is this piece of ancient junk doing here?

Come back when it will be able to do this:


Posted by Krypton on Dec-22-2008 22:09:



A Cold War stinger missile can shoot that hulk of metal out of the sky.


Posted by Alex on Dec-22-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by otec
Krypton, What is this piece of ancient junk doing here?

Come back when it will be able to do this:



How hard does that thing crash when a sheep herder from Afghanistan shoots it with a side-winder?


Posted by otec on Dec-22-2008 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
How hard does that thing crash when a sheep herder from Afghanistan shoots it with a side-winder?


quote:
The AIM-9 Sidewinder is a heat-seeking, short-range, air-to-air missile carried by fighter aircraft and recently, certain gunship helicopters.


Yeah right, a sheep herder.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-22-2008 22:39:

Just like a Russian, to underestimate the Afghans.


Posted by The17sss on Dec-22-2008 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Just like a Russian, to underestimate the Afghans.


OHSNAPSICKBURN!


Posted by Alex on Dec-22-2008 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by otec
Yeah right, a sheep herder.


Sorry, I'm not up to date on surface to air missiles.


Posted by Magnetonium on Dec-23-2008 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
How hard does that thing crash when a sheep herder from Afghanistan shoots it with a side-winder?


Dude, get a brain! A missile/torpedo nowadays can shoot and destroy any aircraft or submarines even of the most advanced models. For example, a 2-billion dollar stealth aircraft has been shot down by a basic anti-aircraft missile battery during the 1999 NATO bombing of Serbia.

Dont need to be a pro to shoot down sophisticated aircraft if you have the right equipment at a given position.


Posted by otec on Dec-23-2008 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton


A Cold War stinger missile can shoot that hulk of metal out of the sky.


Well it has some chaff decoys against that kind of threats.

Plus, it's a very manoeuvrable helicopter, thanks to it's contra-rotating co-axial rotor system design.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-23-2008 22:30:

Trump all yo asses!


Posted by otec on Dec-24-2008 08:02:

They are trying to make one together with some Italian consortium, but it's gonna take some time. Meanwhile they need some to fight against Kurdish separatists.

They talked to the US on buying Cobra/SuperCobra helicopters, but the deal has been turned down. So now they are up to for Russian stuff.


Posted by otec on Dec-24-2008 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
ha readding about it now, something funny of note

Turkish Land Forces Command (KKK)


perhasps they are trying to exploit the russia technologies


yeah, I remember once they've bought some S-300 just to find out the ways how to destroy them in a combat situation.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-25-2008 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by otec
Krypton, What is this piece of ancient junk doing here?

Come back when it will be able to do this:



that was really neat and all, but what was that helicopter doing that any other helicopter couldn't do?


Posted by otec on Dec-25-2008 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
that was really neat and all, but what was that helicopter doing that any other helicopter couldn't do?


quote:
Like other Kamov helicopters, it features Kamov's characteristic contra-rotating co-axial rotor system, which removes the need for the entire tail-rotor assembly and improves the aircraft's aerobatic qualities -- it can perform loops, rolls, and �the funnel� (circle-strafing) where the aircraft maintains a line-of-sight to target while flying circles of varying altitude, elevation, and airspeed around it. Using two rotors means that a smaller rotor with slower moving rotor tips can be used compared to a single rotor design. Since the speed of the advancing rotor tip is a primary limitation to the maximum speed of a helicopter, this allows a faster maximum speed than helicopters such as the AH-64. The elimination of the tail rotor is a qualitative advantage because the torque-countering tail rotor can use up to 30% of engine power. Furthermore, the vulnerable boom and rear gearbox are fairly common causes of helicopter losses in combat (as proven in Vietnam); the Black Shark's entire transmission presents a comparatively small target to ground fire. Kamov maintains that the co-axial drive assembly is built to survive hits from 23 mm ammunition like the other vital parts of the helicopter.[citation needed] The zero native torque also allows the aircraft to be fairly immune to wind strength and direction, and to have an unsurpassed turn rate in all travel speed envelopes.


AH-64 is just a kindergarden toy comparing to this guy.


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