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Posted by TheDemon on Jan-02-2009 16:54:

Canadian soldier charged in the shooting of an unarmed civilian

This is really disturbing to think someone would shoot an unarmed civilian for no reason. And he is being charged with second degree murder.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/ab..._charged_090101


Posted by Sentinal on Jan-02-2009 18:27:

Re: Canadian soldier charged in the shooting of an unarmed civilian

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
This is really disturbing to think someone would shoot an unarmed civilian for no reason. And he is being charged with second degree murder.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/ab..._charged_090101


Trying not to sound to nasty here but civilians get shot everyday on our streets, yes it is very sad and disgusting but it really isnt anything that doesnt happen over here.


Posted by Skipper on Jan-02-2009 18:38:

Can you imagine what would happen if every US soldier were charged for the innocent civilian that they caused the death of?

quote:
Originally posted by Sentinal
Trying not to sound to nasty here but civilians get shot everyday on our streets, yes it is very sad and disgusting but it really isnt anything that doesnt happen over here.


The difference is that soldiers in Afghanastan are there to protect the civilians.


Posted by VDub on Jan-02-2009 18:39:

War is hell...


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jan-02-2009 18:42:

Re: Canadian soldier charged in the shooting of an unarmed civilian

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
This is really disturbing to think someone would shoot an unarmed civilian for no reason.


I find it even more disturbing that a "civilian" would drive an axe into the head of a Canadian soldier that was giving aid to a village.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-02-2009 19:43:

"How do you shoot women, and children?"

"Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em as much. HAHAH! Ain't war hell?"


Posted by yankeeBaby on Jan-02-2009 19:47:

Such is life. People kill each other for little to no reason every damn day...whether its here in our own countries or abroad. Its a sad thing but the world keeps on movin.


Posted by Inrush on Jan-02-2009 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Can you imagine what would happen if every US soldier were charged for the innocent civilian that they caused the death of?


+1 you almost never hear about that.


Posted by Wurm on Jan-02-2009 22:09:

Worm Popper

"Trying someone for murder here is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."


Posted by Sentinal on Jan-02-2009 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Such is life. People kill each other for little to no reason every damn day...whether its here in our own countries or abroad. Its a sad thing but the world keeps on movin.


EXACTLY!


Posted by activate on Jan-02-2009 22:37:

Re: Canadian soldier charged in the shooting of an unarmed civilian

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
This is really disturbing to think someone would shoot an unarmed civilian for no reason. And he is being charged with second degree murder.





None of the news stories I've seen provide any details of what happened.

and regardless, he has yet to be tried. Charged does not = guilty.


Posted by SkyHigh on Jan-02-2009 22:43:

All he has to say ,,I thought i saw a gun..


Posted by Yohan on Jan-06-2009 21:04:

Re: Canadian soldier charged in the shooting of an unarmed civilian

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
This is really disturbing to think someone would shoot an unarmed civilian for no reason. And he is being charged with second degree murder.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/ab..._charged_090101


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009...u-petawawa.html

quote:

Canadian soldier accused of killing insurgent following ambush: lawyers
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 | 3:44 PM ET Comments84Recommend45
CBC News

New details were revealed Tuesday about a Canadian soldier charged in the death of an unarmed man in Afghanistan.

Defence and prosecution lawyers released a joint statement of circumstances about Robert Semrau's case at a hearing at Canadian Forces Base Petawawa to determine whether to release him from custody.

Semrau, originally from Pembroke, Ont., faces one count of second-degree murder in the shooting death of a presumed insurgent in Afghanistan's Helmand province in October.

According to the statement, on Oct. 19, Semrau was on a mission with a small team of Afghan soldiers he was helping to command as part of a mentoring program.

The statement says the group was ambushed by Taliban insurgents, but managed to regain control with the help of U.S. air support.

Soldiers with the Afghan National Army later discovered a wounded insurgent on the ground. His injuries were too apparently too severe for him to be helped. The man's rifle was taken away by Afghan soldiers.

According to the statement, Semrau was then left alone with the injured insurgent and two shots were heard. An unnamed witness said he saw Semrau shoot the Taliban insurgent.

The body was left behind and not recovered, according to the statement.

Both the Crown and prosecution have recommended that Semrau be released with conditions that he live with his family and continue working on the base. The judge is expected to make a decision later Tuesday.

The trial may not take place until late 2009 since the investigation is ongoing. If convicted, Semrau could face 25 years in prison.

Semrau, who attended the hearing with his wife and seven-month-old daughter, had no comment when he made his way inside for the hearing.

Canadian military officials said they were made aware of the allegations on Dec. 27, and notified the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service, which then began an investigation.

Canada has about 2,500 soldiers in Afghanistan, mostly based in the south around Kandahar. Neighbouring Helmand province is largely patrolled by British troops.

Note that it's not a civillian he's accused of killing, but a Taliban insurgent. Funny how one word completely changes the story

Also, this is an alleged incident. Nothing has been proven yet, and Capt Semrau enjoys presumption of innocence until the court finds him guilty



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