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Posted by Frequency Mike on Jan-05-2009 06:27:

need synth EQ help

I'm working on a track where I have 2 snyths coming out of the breakdown back into the main groove. when played alone they sound great but together im having eq problems and I dont really know how to address it without changing the actual sounds drastically.

any suggestions on how to eq two peak synths playing simultaneously?

Posted by pwnage1 on Jan-05-2009 07:59:

Re: need synth EQ help

quote:
Originally posted by Frequency Mike
I'm working on a track where I have 2 snyths coming out of the breakdown back into the main groove. when played alone they sound great but together im having eq problems and I dont really know how to address it without changing the actual sounds drastically.

any suggestions on how to eq two peak synths playing simultaneously?
sample of them seperate and a sample of them together. Also, pan them. GL

edit: make one mono and more raw sounding and make one synth really wet with lots of stereo width

Posted by Theran on Jan-05-2009 12:17:

You can ause a spectral analyzer to sort out where the frequencies are clashing, and EQ to that information. It's also wise to compress both sounds.

Posted by derail on Jan-05-2009 12:34:

You can try EQing them to separate them, though that may end up changing both sounds too much.

You could try arranging them so they're not playing at the same time, though I'm not sure that's an option here.

I'd say, keep the sound you're happiest with and re-evaluate what you want the other sound to contribute.

These days I find sounds that work together, before I touch any EQ or compression or any other effect. I've spent too long in the past trying to make sounds fit that just aren't supposed to fit.

Posted by babablacksheep on Jan-05-2009 16:43:

use a new sound

Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-05-2009 17:08:

make one of them mono with stereo delay and the other one stereo with mono delay

Posted by Frequency Mike on Jan-06-2009 04:17:

im a noob.. if you didnt notice... lol...

thanks there are a lot of good suggestions here.. i didnt realize that by paning and using efx it would "unclash them" i thought it was pretty much just an eq issue...

i looked at the spectral analyzer and they are pretty much playing the exact same freq range... how would i change this... i have a screen shot actually of this ill post...

also someone said to sample something.. did u mean post a sample of the sounds so u can give it a listen?

quote:
Originally posted by Theran
You can ause a spectral analyzer to sort out where the frequencies are clashing, and EQ to that information. It's also wise to compress both sounds.

Posted by Frequency Mike on Jan-06-2009 04:19:

Posted by Frequency Mike on Jan-06-2009 04:41:

This is just the two snyths in question so you know what Im talking about

http://www.sendspace.com/file/61t6f8

This is the clip with every track

http://www.sendspace.com/file/q1fojc

btw.. this is the first time ive ever publicly posted any project of mine...

Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-06-2009 11:45:

yeah i rekon change the timbre, and use effects, these will both change the waveform and help you percieve a seperated sound, plus i did think the sounds were quite mono. Plus you prob want a sound occupying each octave rather than the same if you want them to not mess with each other.

there my thoughts tho.

Posted by pwnage1 on Jan-07-2009 02:59:

Panning does get rid of that clash because it make it so you hear one sound in one side and the other in another meaning each one is playing in a different ear. This is if its panned completely to one side. Most likely this will sound weird, so just panning it a bit will hopefully get rid of the clash enough that you can hear each sound well.

Also, effected one making wide and keeping one mono doesn't get rid of the clash, it will just make them sound a lot more seperate so you can hear each one better.

My suggestion is try both see what works, if none of them do, change the octave of one, or just change the sound completely.

Posted by derail on Jan-07-2009 05:13:

Remember that panning to separate them will work for headphone playback, but won't help in mono situations, such as clubs, where people aren't neatly between two speakers.

Posted by pwnage1 on Jan-07-2009 05:40:

Sometimes the best option is to do a little bit of everything, instead of just one or the other.

Posted by CoreEventsNYC on Jan-09-2009 04:48:

thanks everyone.. ill see what i come up with and let you all know how it turned out