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Virus TI Polar not available?

OK, this is weird. Bongwater doesn't have any of the Virus TI line except the snow on their website, and ZZounds only has 1 Polar left and its discounted a few hundred dollars.

I wonder if this is an indication of some upgraded versions at NAMM?

I�ve seen others thinking in the same lines.. There has to be SOMETHING going on.

OK, good then I am not just seeing things. I wanted to pick one up in the next few months.

Beyer: Have you see anything on other forums?

Yep, people see the ti models are disappearing from various shops,
like sweetwater.
I guess we will have to wait and see if they reveal something at NAMM.
They HAVE to.

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Originally posted by Beyer Yep, people see the ti models are disappearing from various shops, like sweetwater. I guess we will have to wait and see if they reveal something at NAMM. They HAVE to.

Prediction : More of the same crap.

What I really want to see at Winter NAMM is something new from Moog to compete with the DSI MoPho. A rackable or desktop version of the Little Phatty street priced at $800 would be ideal. Little Phatty RME? Let's hope.

Musicians Friend has them in stock:

http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfrie...ller?sku=707907

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Originally posted by cryophonik Musicians Friend has them in stock: http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfrie...ller?sku=707907

Yeah I saw that as well, they seem to be the only ones. The question is: for how long?

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Originally posted by Beyer Yep, people see the ti models are disappearing from various shops, like sweetwater. I guess we will have to wait and see if they reveal something at NAMM. They HAVE to.

I called my guy a Sweetwater and he shows that the Polar, Desktop and 61-key are DISCONTINUED.

WTF?????

I don't see how a synth like that, which is so popular, can be discontinued. Ant its not like its just the Polar version. ALL the TI models are gone except the Snow.

There has to be something up. At this point, the Snow is their only hardware product! That CAN'T be right.

It looks like audiomidi.com has them as well:

http://www.audiomidi.com/Virus-TI-Polar-P5929.aspx

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Originally posted by Eric J I don't see how a synth like that, which is so popular, can be discontinued. Ant its not like its just the Polar version. ALL the TI models are gone except the Snow. There has to be something up. At this point, the Snow is their only hardware product! That CAN'T be right.

There have been rumors circulating about a TImkII for some time now - maybe it will be announced at Winter NAMM???

Time to start speculating...hmmmmm...maybe the TImkII series will be all-analogue!

Sweetwater is always the first to get new gear and to update their inventory according to manufacturer specifications, so if sweetwater says they're discontinued, I'd say we can definitely expect Access to make an announcement next week at Winter NAMM.

Again, my prediction is a Virus Ti MKII... just more of the same crap, more digital outputs.. more voices.. maybe a new type of OSC or two? But still the same crappy sound engine as the original Virus A.

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Originally posted by cryophonik There have been rumors circulating about a TImkII for some time now - maybe it will be announced at Winter NAMM???

I hope so, the TI has been on my list, but I need Uncle Sam to help me finance it, so I can't until March or April. I hope I can get one then.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Time to start speculating...hmmmmm...maybe the TImkII series will be all-analogue!

haha, yeah that'd be cool, but don't hold your breath.

If I had to speculate, its probably what alanzo said. More voices, more polyphony, and maybe firewire or USB 3 support.

That's ASSUMING that there is indeed an mkII. My contacts say they don't know anything about it, but that could just be because they are not allowed to say anything.

Hmm.. It will be VERY interesting to see what it looks like.

Maybe it will be a plugin?

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Originally posted by alanzo What I really want to see at Winter NAMM is something new from Moog to compete with the DSI MoPho. A rackable or desktop version of the Little Phatty street priced at $800 would be ideal. Little Phatty RME? Let's hope.

Not gonna happen. The Phatty is pretty cheap as it is.

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Originally posted by Subtle Not gonna happen. The Phatty is pretty cheap as it is.

but having it attached to that keyboard is just a waste of money. I don't need that, so why the hell would I pay for it? They came out with a rack of the voyager, they definitely should do the same with the LP.

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Originally posted by alanzo but having it attached to that keyboard is just a waste of money. I don't need that, so why the hell would I pay for it? They came out with a rack of the voyager, they definitely should do the same with the LP.

Yeah, but its a very live oriented synthesizer, so i highly doubt they will make it.

One can hope ofcourse.

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Originally posted by Subtle Yeah, but its a very live oriented synthesizer...

True, but so is the Voyager and Moog made the RME. With all the keyboard controllers available today and the fact that virtually everyone has at least one, there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to provide a module version. Especially when you consider the recession - it seems like it would be in Moog's best interest to provide an affordable version of the LP. Look at the sales of the Mopho and Blofeld - both DSI and Waldorf have had problems keeping up with the demand. An affordable rackmount LP would probably take the market by storm.

Back OT - if/when Access gets around to updating the TI, I'm hoping/betting that it will use FW and all 16 parts will be independently available.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Back OT - if/when Access gets around to updating the TI, I'm hoping/betting that it will use FW and all 16 parts will be independently available.

If they do announce a new TI at NAMM, then the question is how long until it is available for purchase? A friend of mine who works for a big synth repair house said he had heard rumors that Access was cooking up something.

I just have to believe that whatever they announce will be immediately available, because I don't see how they can keep their revenue streams active with only ONE hardware product.

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Originally posted by Eric J If they do announce a new TI at NAMM, then the question is how long until it is available for purchase? A friend of mine who works for a big synth repair house said he had heard rumors that Access was cooking up something. I just have to believe that whatever they announce will be immediately available, because I don't see how they can keep their revenue streams active with only ONE hardware product.

I remember the release date of the Ti was at least a year after they announced it, maybe more. It kept on getting pushed back because of software bugs... and then they just released it, bugs and all.

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Originally posted by alanzo I remember the release date of the Ti was at least a year after they announced it, maybe more. It kept on getting pushed back because of software bugs... and then they just released it, bugs and all.

Yeah, I remember when all that was going on.

I have to wonder, though if this launch won't go a bit more smoothly. I mean, the TI was a brand new concept, both hardware and software, so I would expect loads of bugs. Anytime you put out a 1.0 product, there is going to be problems, its just the nature of the beast. With a "version 2", as it were, you'd think that they would have learned a few things and applied those lessons to the new version. Maybe this is one of the reasons WHY they are putting out a version 2, so they can incorporate the "lessons learned" from the first version.

Obviously this is all speculation on my part. I suppose we'll know by the end of next week at the latest.

if they are going to release a MKII they will use USB2 for sure. and somehow i doubt that they can add something really innovative into the same product. i would prefer a new synth from access which is very different to the virus lineup.

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Originally posted by thecYrus if they are going to release a MKII they will use USB2 for sure. and somehow i doubt that they can add something really innovative into the same product. i would prefer a new synth from access which is very different to the virus lineup.

See I would agree with this if they had not discontinued the entire TI line. However, I can't see any other reason why you would discontinue your ENTIRE flagship product line unless you were planning on releasing an upgrade to that same line. It just doesn't make any business sense.

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Originally posted by Eric J See I would agree with this if they had not discontinued the entire TI line. However, I can't see any other reason why you would discontinue your ENTIRE flagship product line unless you were planning on releasing an upgrade to that same line. It just doesn't make any business sense.

yeah i know. they will release something very similiar otherwise they would sell both products at the same time.

About time too. The total integration has been horrific and still doesn't work properly on many occasions. They better redeem themselves.

i actually think it would be smarter to have a dedicated PCI card that the TI goes into... no more USB/FW limitiations. plus those technologies are going to change again in 18mos.

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