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Posted by fazzai on Jan-11-2009 09:21:

20 hot tracks

Posted by Owen M on Jan-11-2009 12:37:

unless I'm blind, the track names aren't even posted on youtube.

Gay.

Posted by LKD on Jan-11-2009 17:02:

where do these trolls come from??? some bridge is missing alot of residents beneath it

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-11-2009 17:49:

Do you all remember what I said a few years ago with the decline of my vinyl art of DJing? ... With CDJs, everbody's a fcuking DJ.

Now with $500 future shop laptops and ableton or whatever you guys are using... everybody's a fcuking producer.

Posted by Inrush on Jan-11-2009 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Do you all remember what I said a few years ago with the decline of my vinyl art of DJing? ... With CDJs, everbody's a fcuking DJ.

Now with $500 future shop laptops and ableton or whatever you guys are using... everybody's a fcuking producer.

nothing bad about that. Then it shows who really wants it the most. Bad producers that were making money cant because new people with bright ideas are alot better. And forces people to bring out good shit or it wont be played.

Posted by LKD on Jan-11-2009 18:10:

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-11-2009 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
move on man...stop bitching about technological advancement

why would you possibly think I was talking about you?

Posted by LKD on Jan-11-2009 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
why would you possibly think I was talking about you?

i use ableton+ a laptop and encourage ditching of vinyl and cdjs....

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-11-2009 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Inrush
nothing bad about that. Then it shows who really wants it the most. Bad producers that were making money cant because new people with bright ideas are alot better. And forces people to bring out good shit or it wont be played.

There is nothing good about it....the market is already flooded with crappy tracks that are produced quicker then hamburgers at McDonalds. Unfortunately, some of these crappy tracks have hit the mainstream market and have completely destroyed Electronic Music. Most of the electronic music produced today sounds like it was created by a two year old monkey on acid who has down syndrome.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-11-2009 23:43:

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-12-2009 00:50:

Posted by Inrush on Jan-12-2009 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
There is nothing good about it....the market is already flooded with crappy tracks that are produced quicker then hamburgers at McDonalds. Unfortunately, some of these crappy tracks have hit the mainstream market and have completely destroyed Electronic Music. Most of the electronic music produced today sounds like it was created by a two year old monkey on acid who has down syndrome.

there are a bunch of gifted young producers coming up that just use computers to make tracks. Yes there will always be crapy tracks but some peoples minds think differently then others. Some people can figure out a computer like that. But they may not be able to figure out how to make music the old way.

So say someone has a crazy idea for a song that is totally different then anything out there but only knows how to use a computer to put their ideas down. If we didnt have the technology we have today we might not get to hear a genius at work. If you are mad at how easy the software is to use to make songs... just wait till they really get going on the software. Everyone and their mother will be creating. Embrace technology or be left behind.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-12-2009 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Inrush
there are a bunch of gifted young producers coming up that just use computers to make tracks. Yes there will always be crapy tracks but some peoples minds think differently then others. Some people can figure out a computer like that. But they may not be able to figure out how to make music the old way.

So say someone has a crazy idea for a song that is totally different then anything out there but only knows how to use a computer to put their ideas down. If we didnt have the technology we have today we might not get to hear a genus at work. If you are mad at how easy the software is to use to make songs... just wait till they really get going on the software. Everyone and their mother will be creating. Embrace technology or be left behind.

I'm mad at the quality of music being produced. Producers are flooding the market with tracks in hopes that one of their tracks will be the next big thing so they can make a few dollars. With technology making it easier and easier for people to produce tracks you are getting more basement producers flooding the market with low quality tracks....and especially in north america....a track doesn't have to be good in order to get played.

Posted by Inrush on Jan-12-2009 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I'm mad at the quality of music being produced. Producers are flooding the market with tracks in hopes that one of their tracks will be the next big thing so they can make a few dollars. With technology making it easier and easier for people to produce tracks you are getting more basement producers flooding the market with low quality tracks....and especially in north america....a track doesn't have to be good in order to get played.

I agree but still i am 100% for technology. There are way too many garbage tracks but maybe thats the thing we have to change. Somehow regulate the tracks coming out instead of not creating a program to make it easer to make the music.

Posted by Elendil on Jan-12-2009 01:47:

I always say, doesn't matter the medium, genius will arise where it may. New tech, old tech, it doesn't matter - now we just have more opportunity to hear the expression of the human consciousness. Bring it on.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-12-2009 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Elendil
I always say, doesn't matter the medium, genius will arise where it may. New tech, old tech, it doesn't matter - now we just have more opportunity to hear the expression of the human consciousness. Bring it on.

I could care less about the human consciousness....I want good tunes.

Posted by Inrush on Jan-12-2009 01:52:

Posted by LKD on Jan-12-2009 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I could care less about the human consciousness....I want good tunes.

so basically u imply that to get good tunes, one must pay a shitload for hardsynths (which are a rarity now as well) and suffer with a big hole in their pockets.....hmmm

how did this thread end up with such a stupid debate

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-12-2009 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
i use ableton+ a laptop and encourage ditching of vinyl and cdjs....

ooops... wasn't pointing at you, HONEST!

But guess what... Vinyl is making a comeback! Vinyl sales in 2008 have doubled since 2007!!! http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ta...+sales&ie=UTF-8

Posted by LKD on Jan-12-2009 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Vinyl is making a comeback! Vinyl sales in 2008 have doubled since 2007!!! http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ta...+sales&ie=UTF-8

not in the world of electronic music

2009 more djs are going to switch over to midi controllers

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-12-2009 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
not in the world of electronic music

2009 more djs are going to switch over to midi controllers

yikes... midi is making a comeback too? Everyone was into midi with their commodore 64, lol

Posted by DigiNut on Jan-12-2009 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Inrush
And forces people to bring out good shit or it wont be played.

That logic might prove correct if it weren't for the huge influx of indie and digital labels that have sprung up over the past 5 years. In fact, with enough determination and persistence, one could get just about any shitty track signed and played; one wouldn't necessarily stand to make any money from these half-baked enterprises, but that is another story.

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
yikes... midi is making a comeback too? Everyone was into midi with their commodore 64, lol

MIDI is just a communications and timing protocol; you're probably thinking of the cheesy General MIDI synthesis built into the old Amigas and Sound Blaster cards, but those are just a narrow subset of the standard.

There's no comeback, because it never went away for producers; it's just spreading to the DJ market now.

Posted by zookeeper on Jan-12-2009 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
commodore 64, lol

LOL!

Atari 800, a Yamaha synth, and a 4 track recorder.

I thought I was king, when I got my Amiga!

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-12-2009 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
so basically u imply that to get good tunes, one must pay a shitload for hardsynths (which are a rarity now as well) and suffer with a big hole in their pockets.....hmmm

how did this thread end up with such a stupid debate

if you want to make a career out of producing music then it should come at a cost....which you would make back in the product you sell.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-12-2009 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
ooops... wasn't pointing at you, HONEST!

But guess what... Vinyl is making a comeback! Vinyl sales in 2008 have doubled since 2007!!! http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ta...+sales&ie=UTF-8

GN'R Chinese Democracy had the second highest Vinyl sales in 2008...behind the Beattles I believe.

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