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Ok, so Lost is coming back in something like 8 days!!!!!! the season premier is the 21st I believe and if you're anything like me then it seems like an eternity. I started this thread so we can kick around theories, opinions, and talk about how much of a weenie jack is.

Anyway, I cant wait 9 days!!! i can only wait 4815162342 seconds

I was wondering what ya'll thought on where the island is. a friend of mine says the question isnt where the island is, but when.

and we still dont really know what the smoke is

or why they have to go back (obv)

or whats really hood wit ben linus

and why john locke was in a casket.

and what i REALLY want to see is charles whitmore pull some straight G shit and send the goons out to ride.

and all that goodneess. I think im going to rewatch season 4 over the next week!!! aAAHAHAHAHAHA



btw I'm a HUGE heroes fan, but Lost shits on Heroes' chest. and it smells really bad

Here's my theory....



The island is some sort of purgatory. Everyone's dead. They all died in the plane crash. The events that happen on the island makes sure that people redeem themselves for the lives they lived earlier and the bad things they may have done.

Linus and Mr. Whiddmore are some kind of watchdogs of the good or bad of this island. Linus is heaven, and he's trying to make sure people do good and go to heaven. It's like a chess match. That's why so much emphasis is put on board games, like John playing backgammon, Hurley playing chess, and another scene with checkers I can't remember. For some reason, these scenes aren't really that important but Abrams puts them in there and gives them good amount of time (Hurley's "checkmate" scene in the Season 4 finale).

Linus and Whiddmore are playing chess of sorts, using their good/bad guys to influence the other ones. Somehow, I think Linus made sure Whiddmore (hell) couldn't influence the island anymore. All the guys you didn't like in Season 1 (Jin, Sawyer, etc.) all turn into likeable people by Season 4.

I view it as a chess game because when Whiddmore kills Alexandra, Linus says "he broke the rules". Now, with all this stuff involved, it's hard to understand how they're dead. I'm guessing they're all dead but somehow able to change things in the real world. That's why they can interact with real people, but still get visits from Charlie, Claire, Mr. Eko, etc...

I think everything was disturbed through Jack's choices of action. He threw something off that made them hurl into another time and place. For Jack to JUST read Locke's obituary years later, I'm not sure what that means but that's gotta be something big. To make things right again, they ALLLLL have to go back together. I think this means they all have to die again, to make everything right.





Eeeek, it's a long shot, but it's a pretty interesting theory. I just watched ALL of Lost Season 4 in the past 3 days for the first time, so everything's fresh in my mind.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Here's my theory.... The island is some sort of purgatory. Everyone's dead. They all died in the plane crash. The events that happen on the island makes sure that people redeem themselves for the lives they lived earlier and the bad things they may have done. Linus and Mr. Whiddmore are some kind of watchdogs of the good or bad of this island. Linus is heaven, and he's trying to make sure people do good and go to heaven. It's like a chess match. That's why so much emphasis is put on board games, like John playing backgammon, Hurley playing chess, and another scene with checkers I can't remember. For some reason, these scenes aren't really that important but Abrams puts them in there and gives them good amount of time (Hurley's "checkmate" scene in the Season 4 finale). Linus and Whiddmore are playing chess of sorts, using their good/bad guys to influence the other ones. Somehow, I think Linus made sure Whiddmore (hell) couldn't influence the island anymore. All the guys you didn't like in Season 1 (Jin, Sawyer, etc.) all turn into likeable people by Season 4. I view it as a chess game because when Whiddmore kills Alexandra, Linus says "he broke the rules". Now, with all this stuff involved, it's hard to understand how they're dead. I'm guessing they're all dead but somehow able to change things in the real world. That's why they can interact with real people, but still get visits from Charlie, Claire, Mr. Eko, etc... I think everything was disturbed through Jack's choices of action. He threw something off that made them hurl into another time and place. For Jack to JUST read Locke's obituary years later, I'm not sure what that means but that's gotta be something big. To make things right again, they ALLLLL have to go back together. I think this means they all have to die again, to make everything right. Eeeek, it's a long shot, but it's a pretty interesting theory. I just watched ALL of Lost Season 4 in the past 3 days for the first time, so everything's fresh in my mind.

I subscribed to the Purgatory theory early on too, unitl I read an interview with the creators. They were asked point blank about that, and they answered very directly that its not the case. No idea what is really going on.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Purgatory_(debunked_theory)

i actaully subscribed to the LOST thread in the COR (one of very very few threads i actually read thru since i totally LOVE this series, as crazier as it gets EVERY season)

yeah I thought the Purgatory concept was interesting as well. But I really don't want tthe series to end with them all being dead though. eheh call me an idealist. That being said, I really want them all to be able to go back in time and actually change some of the fates of the crash survivors (Jeremy Bentham/John Locke, Jin - whoses fate is still uncertain, etc.)

I still need to watch part of Season 3 (which i have on DVD) and i have to get Season 4 so i can rewatch some parts. its been way too long!!!


i cant wait till Season 5 starts (w00t).

sometimes i read darkufo forums about speculations and theories. it certainly keeps me busy, hehe

and i agree with you Ravi on Heroes. I still love the show but its started to suck esp the end of Season 3. and i do not like the premise of Season 4, ugh. damn Nathan...

I wasn't very happy or upset with last season's finale. I still don't really like the aspect of time travel, or the fact that the island disappeared, but whenever I was skeptical before the show's never let me down.

I just can't wait to see more of Sayid running around assassinating people. I'm more interested in the whole off the island power struggle now then anything on the island at the moment.

Going to start watching through last season this week so I'm primed and ready

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Originally posted by The Vza btw I'm a HUGE heroes fan, but Lost shits on Heroes' chest. and it smells really bad

lolz, same here man
I'm so psyched for the season premiere! but also sad that we are one season closer to the end...

you are on the right track with when, not where for the island

it is NOT purgatory (or any sort of afterlife), the creators stated that up front in a very early interview

lyss, get on that season 3 dvd! DOOOO IT NOW!
once I made an ex-girlfriend catch up on 3 seasons of Lost before the 4th season premiere so she could watch it with me
lolz
she was awesome though and blew through them in 2 weeks and now she is hooked

everybody should join http://forum.thefuselage.com/
I am "beema" on there, obv
it's a really good forum, I am on the "watching live" thread every episode, hitting f5
lol
the server usually gets overcrowded though and crashes like whoah
it's hilarious

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Originally posted by The Vza btw I'm a HUGE heroes fan, but Lost shits on Heroes' chest. and it smells really bad

ONLY because the past few season sucked balls

HEROES SEASON 1 for life

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Originally posted by eyebegod ONLY because the past few season sucked balls HEROES SEASON 1 for life

that's the worst excuse I've ever heard
that's like saying a pizza you found in a dumpster is better than a pizza fresh out of the oven because the one in the dumpster WAS from a good restaurant

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Originally posted by beema that's the worst excuse I've ever heard that's like saying a pizza you found in a dumpster is better than a pizza fresh out of the oven because the one in the dumpster WAS from a good restaurant

I hate to do this but im a philosophy major...your argument is only sound if the pizza in the dumpster was fresh due to the fact that Heroes season one is still good and very watchable. Yet still, it may be dumpster heroes and yet it is still from a good restaurant and highly delectable...so yes...dumpster pizza all day everyday

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Originally posted by eyebegod I hate to do this but im a philosophy major...your argument is only sound if the pizza in the dumpster was fresh due to the fact that Heroes season one is still good and very watchable. Yet still, it may be dumpster heroes and yet it is still from a good restaurant and highly delectable...so yes...dumpster pizza all day everyday

No, with that analogy I was referring to Heroes as a whole, not just Season 1. The crappiness of the past 2 seasons overshadows the good of the first, thereby making it as a whole not as good as Lost as a whole.

ummmm....ok

um its about the dharma initiative discovering time travel folks...everything else was a cover for that...

i mean the characters names pretty much give a lot away..Daniel Faraday...a play on the famous physicist Michael Faraday who made leaps and bounds with electro-magnetism...if you know anything about science..like the theory of electron superposition..where an electron is "neither here nor there" its "BOTH here AND there" when trying to quantify its location...explains how someone can be dead AND alive at the same time....etc etc..i can go on if you want


This entire season coming up will explain a lot of time travel....you'll see...

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Originally posted by DirtyDave um its about the dharma initiative discovering time travel folks...everything else was a cover for that... i mean the characters names pretty much give a lot away..Daniel Faraday...a play on the famous physicist Michael Faraday who made leaps and bounds with electro-magnetism...if you know anything about science..like the theory of electron superposition..where an electron is "neither here nor there" its "BOTH here AND there" when trying to quantify its location...explains how someone can be dead AND alive at the same time....etc etc..i can go on if you want This entire season coming up will explain a lot of time travel....you'll see...

yeah, i did some reading today on stuff from the upcoming season and key episodes to watch from past seasons in preparation for the new one and they allllll have to do with time travel.

not to mention things like this...

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Originally posted by DirtyDave um its about the dharma initiative discovering time travel folks...everything else was a cover for that... i mean the characters names pretty much give a lot away..Daniel Faraday...a play on the famous physicist Michael Faraday who made leaps and bounds with electro-magnetism...if you know anything about science..like the theory of electron superposition..where an electron is "neither here nor there" its "BOTH here AND there" when trying to quantify its location...explains how someone can be dead AND alive at the same time....etc etc..i can go on if you want This entire season coming up will explain a lot of time travel....you'll see...

not to mention philosopher john locke, and others. that might be one of my favorite parts of the show. the research and philosophical aspect.

i like that whole here nor there, but rather here AND there

Time loop theory FTW!!

http://www.timelooptheory.com/

When you watch the show after you have read that it all makes sense.

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz Time loop theory FTW!! http://www.timelooptheory.com/ When you watch the show after you have read that it all makes sense.

I've read the time loop theory numerous times. I've gone back and watched every episode at least 4 times. TLT is pretty good, and may in fact be correct, or at least on the right track. The new season will definitely be going sci-fi, and I personally can't wait! Anyone catch that it was Daniel Faraday behind the camera in that youtube vid?

Which episodes are your favorites???

My second favorite are Episode 19 of Season 1 when BOONE dies. I remember watching the last ten seconds when LOCKE is crying about what his dad did to him, and he's crying over the hatch, and then the light in the hatch goes on, and the music stops. I nearly shat myself on that closing scene, and screamed "OHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!"

My number one favorite was the finale for Season 3. The closing scene where JACK and KATE are at the airport and he says "We have to go back Kate.... WE HAVE TO GO BACK!" that shit haunted me for daaaaaays, I couldn't believe it haha...

I am still behind on Season 4 so I will wait to watch till I catch up. Can't wait

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Which episodes are your favorites??? My second favorite are Episode 19 of Season 1 when BOONE dies. I remember watching the last ten seconds when LOCKE is crying about what his dad did to him, and he's crying over the hatch, and then the light in the hatch goes on, and the music stops. I nearly shat myself on that closing scene, and screamed "OHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!" My number one favorite was the finale for Season 3. The closing scene where JACK and KATE are at the airport and he says "We have to go back Kate.... WE HAVE TO GO BACK!" that shit haunted me for daaaaaays, I couldn't believe it haha...

oh man oh man oh man... I liked the one where sawyer said something bout "I aint through wit you yet Zeke"

or when the others took Walt (season 2?)

i cant remember that far back. it might be time to start rewatching. less than a week!!!

Season 4 "The Constant". BEST EVAR! AND the season 2 episode with Ben/Henry Gale sitting in the hatch eating cereal, talking to Locke and Jack about drawing a map, leading Sayid into a trap. Classic BEN!!!

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Originally posted by sammy6979 Season 4 "The Constant". BEST EVAR! AND the season 2 episode with Ben/Henry Gale sitting in the hatch eating cereal, talking to Locke and Jack about drawing a map, leading Sayid into a trap. Classic BEN!!!

Yeah you're right, the Constant is a mindblower haha... My brother said his friends saw Ben walking down a street in New York one day and they got him into the bar they were at and bought him mad drinks, and told him how amazing he is in Lost haha.. True story..

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz Time loop theory FTW!! http://www.timelooptheory.com/ When you watch the show after you have read that it all makes sense.

Hmmm... pretty thorough... I'm not sure if that's it, but it's the closest one so far...

I thought of a couple favorites, from Season 4 anyways:

Greatest Hits -- poor Charlie, only finding real happiness just before his death

I Do
Every Man for Himself
These two I especially liked because of Sawyer's character development. When the show started I absolutely hated Sawyer, but by the 4th season he was my favorite character, and these two episodes really drove it home for me, showing both sides of the man who really is a tormented and lonely soul.

and of course,
The Man Behind the Curtain -- mindblowing for everyone I'm sure

Wowowowow.... Timeloop theory's playing out still... We'll see if that's the one!

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