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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-13-2009 02:14:

*New* dance music with carefree and optimistic vibes?

In the Young American Primitive appreciation thread, sljiva wrote:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
For example, California Dreaming is without a doubt my favourite compilation ever. It features tracks that sound so natural and somewhat carefree, with that optimistic atmosphere which is so rare in today's music.

And I tend to agree. It seems like there's very little EDM today with an "optimistic and carefree" atmosphere. Most of the stuff I encounter now is dark and moody (deep / tech house stuff, psy trance), melodramatic (mainstream trance), or basically emotionless, made just to get people moving (electro house, some techno). Whereas if I look back in time it seems like it's almost impossible not to find stuff that radiates the kind of positive, carefree mood you find in Orbital's "Belfast" or a lot of epic house, for example.

So, do you think that the average mood of dance music has shifted over the past fifteen to twenty years? And if so, why might this be?

And can anyone recommend me some recent feelgood stuff?


Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 02:21:

Check out the stuff that has been recommended in this thread: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...24&forumid=1&s=


Posted by daphunky1 on Jan-13-2009 06:18:

I agree. A friend and I have been having discussions on a dj's track selection and when it's ok to play cheesy tracks, but I think this might be the real topic that we are discussing. This is because I love that care-free vibe in edm, and always drawn towards tracks like these. But he is more into the new indie-dance-electro-rock-new-sound stuff. He claims that if this genre brings the energy to the crowd, why would I deny that energy. But I used to go out to raves and dance all night, and he's never done anything of that sort.
See I don't want a DJ necessarily just to bring energy (though of course that's always good), but rather I want a DJ to bring a vibe that I can be taken somewhere else with

It's what people want out of a club experience that has changed I think.


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 06:22:

Re: *New* dance music with carefree and optimistic vibes?

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
In the Young American Primitive appreciation thread, sljiva wrote:


And I tend to agree. It seems like there's very little EDM today with an "optimistic and carefree" atmosphere. Most of the stuff I encounter now is dark and moody (deep / tech house stuff, psy trance), melodramatic (mainstream trance), or basically emotionless, made just to get people moving (electro house, some techno). Whereas if I look back in time it seems like it's almost impossible not to find stuff that radiates the kind of positive, carefree mood you find in Orbital's "Belfast" or a lot of epic house, for example.

So, do you think that the average mood of dance music has shifted over the past fifteen to twenty years? And if so, why might this be?

And can anyone recommend me some recent feelgood stuff?



why do you want recent? im sure there's plenty of old stuff you havent heard


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-13-2009 06:25:

Re: Re: *New* dance music with carefree and optimistic vibes?

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
why do you want recent? im sure there's plenty of old stuff you havent heard

Mainly because I want my thesis to be proven wrong.

Old stuff is fine as well really.


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 06:31:

Re: Re: Re: *New* dance music with carefree and optimistic vibes?

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Mainly because I want my thesis to be proven wrong.

Old stuff is fine as well really.


haha thats what i figured.

well the most carefree older music that's not trance is the italo deep house sound IMO - lush, melodic, uplifting, soulful, rhythmic, hypnotic at times, exuberant at others

the second mix on this page
http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/174204

and this one
http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/121932


Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 06:37:

Adam, I remember you posted a link to an Italo Disco mix a few years back which I really enjoyed but I think I accidentally deleted it from my computer at some point. If you know what I'm talking about could you please post it again? Thanks!


Posted by TranceOwnsLol on Jan-13-2009 06:38:


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 06:41:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Adam, I remember you posted a link to an Italo Disco mix a few years back which I really enjoyed but I think I accidentally deleted it from my computer at some point. If you know what I'm talking about could you please post it again? Thanks!


yeah that was italo-house, not disco - this is exactly what i'm talking about - very awesome mix.


The original link is down so I will reupload it! Everyone needs to hear that set. I still listen religiously. The sets I posted are like that.

I actually tracked down 4 of the records in that mix and im expecting them in the mail shortly.


Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 06:43:

Awesome Adam, thanks a lot!


Posted by Psy-T on Jan-13-2009 06:45:

http://psy-t.com/0901-Psy-T_feat_Ec...Predisposed.mp3
have at it, mrjivebojingles


Posted by bas on Jan-13-2009 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
yeah that was italo-house, not disco - this is exactly what i'm talking about - very awesome mix.


The original link is down so I will reupload it! Everyone needs to hear that set. I still listen religiously. The sets I posted are like that.

I actually tracked down 4 of the records in that mix and im expecting them in the mail shortly.

Are you talking about Diggin Deep Into Italy?


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Are you talking about Diggin Deep Into Italy?



uh huh


Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 06:59:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Are you talking about Diggin Deep Into Italy?


Yes! That's the one!

Found it, but as Adam said...the link is dead awaiting re-upload

Digging Deep Into Italy


Posted by Domesticated on Jan-13-2009 07:03:

I agree pretty strongly with this.

Strongly enough that I wrote an article about it, anyway.

http://chinstroking.blogspot.com/20...e-music_21.html

Club house music used to be very happy and carefree in general, but these days it's as you said, emotionless or dark. The only good clubby, cheesy track I can think of in recent times that really embodies the old spirit is this one:



Fonzerelli - "Moonlight Party" (yes, I really like this track).

Does anyone know of any recent tracks like this? Clubby, cheesy, carefree...yet still quality (i.e decent percussion and melody?). I want to make a commercial house mix for a friend but I stopped following it around 2004.


Posted by cmay119 on Jan-13-2009 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
I agree pretty strongly with this.

Strongly enough that I wrote an article about it, anyway.

http://chinstroking.blogspot.com/20...e-music_21.html

Club house music used to be very happy and carefree in general, but these days it's as you said, emotionless or dark. The only good clubby, cheesy track I can think of in recent times that really embodies the old spirit is this one:



Fonzerelli - "Moonlight Party" (yes, I really like this track).

Does anyone know of any recent tracks like this? Clubby, cheesy, carefree...yet still quality (i.e decent percussion and melody?). I want to make a commercial house mix for a friend but I stopped following it around 2004.


Yeah, Moonlight Party is definitely a fun tune. It's been a guilty pleasure of mine since I first heard it.


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 07:27:

Domesticated, you're just not looking well enough. house music is very alive.

one of my top tunes this year:

Osborne - Ruling


Norm Talley - Change (Mike Huckaby Remix)


Aaron Carl - Tears
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1337675-02-01-01.mp3

Los Hermanos - Midnight In Madrid
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1298155-02-01-03.mp3

Dyed Soundorom - Tapioka (Agnes Mix)


Omar S - Psychotic Photosynthesis


Omar S - Day


I could post a hundred more


Posted by Domesticated on Jan-13-2009 07:29:

In that vein, this is the best fucking CD ever.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-.../release/211174

They cram too many tracks in, but 70% of the tunes are complete quality: Lazy, Genedefekt, My Vision, Dove, Reckless Girl, The Sound Of Violence, Come On Over, The Weak Become Heroes, Superstylin', Shiny Disco Balls, Star Guitar, Out Of The City, Safe From Harm, Mother.

Fuck that was a good year for commercialism. All the tracks listed above are firm favourites of mine and I'm not embarrassed to admit it like I am with recent cheesy crap. It mixes trance with house; who would have the guts to do that now?!


Posted by Domesticated on Jan-13-2009 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Domesticated, you're just not looking well enough. house music is very alive.

I could post a hundred more


So could I. I follow all the guys like Ben Watt, DJ Meme, Sydenham & Ferrer etc.

I'm talking about cheesy club house, not proper house.


Posted by nefardec on Jan-13-2009 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
So could I. I follow all the guys like Ben Watt, DJ Meme, Sydenham & Ferrer etc.

I'm talking about cheesy club house, not proper house.


oh, yeah then i definitely agree


Posted by Domesticated on Jan-13-2009 07:38:

I'm really sad to say, Australia doesn't play a big part on the world music scene. We had a handful of very good progressive guys in the '90s (Kasey Taylor, Luke Chable, Ivan Gough etc) and some good psy trance artists now, but one thing we fucking excel at is horrible club house...of the electro variety.

Guys like Andy Van, Dirty South, Mr. Timothy etc. Probably in the lead is TV Rock, half of which is former LEGEND Ivan Gough. What a sad decline for him.

Listen to this tripe which is "rocking" the airwaves and commercial clubs at the moment:



p.s at least we still have Lewie Day.


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-13-2009 10:21:

It's over a year old now, but Bogdan Raczynski's album Alright! is pretty slap-happy.

Here's one of the tracks:

YouTube Link

Another one:

YouTube Link


Posted by kliq on Jan-13-2009 11:13:

I think its already been mentioned a couple of times... but the 'happy' vibe depends on the kind of genre youre inclined towards... personally I've never been able to digest the diva vocals that classic house leans towards and that entire 'happy house' sound never worked for me... it seemed cheesy, forced and in my opinion very fake... I gravitated towards trance music straight away because it seemed to have a more 'legit' and 'serious' vibe to it...

More recently I've been exposed to a lot of deep and tech house along with techno (both the energy driven banging kind as well as minimal). These genre's again appeal to me because they are low on the cheese factor and in my humble opinion exhibit a certain amount of credibility in their sound...

I know im probably sounding extremely elitist right now, so let me clear up one thing, I can enjoy house, even the happy kind as much as the next person just as long as the atmosphere is right... and onto artists who are rocking this sound these days - Laidback Luke, Arno Cost, Norman Doray, Angello & Ingrosso, Guetta are all bringing the 'electro house' sound coupled with soaring/happy vocals, big room synths and basslines.... very commercial, very in your face, and every now and then makes for a great great night. It just depends on the kind of sound you're inclined to, and I just feel with the dominance of trance in todays EDM scene, this kind of sound has taken a back seat... especially in 08. Lets see if it comes back in 09...


Posted by Domesticated on Jan-13-2009 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
It's over a year old now, but Bogdan Raczynski's album Alright! is pretty slap-happy.

Here's one of the tracks:

YouTube Link

Another one:

YouTube Link


Hmm, that jolted my memory.

A producer with a similar sound to that is Croatia's Boltzmann, who I thought was pretty unique (obviously not!).

Check out Transformers (no youtube clips, but it's on beatport). It's probably the best use of a synth since Kraftwerk.


Posted by kitphillips on Jan-13-2009 13:28:

Theres a fair bit of it around. Leigh Morgan, scope, Francois Dubois, Joris Voorn (who I never see mentioned around here) and a few others are worth mentioning.


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