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Posted by technomonster on Jan-13-2009 13:31:

discussion on - TRANCE vs ELECTRO HOUSE

hey you guys.

I live in a pretty isolated place in Australia.

Previously for a number of years I went to some patricular clubs here and the sound was Trance like -abit towards the TIESTO and Darude type of world generally speaking.

Went back after a few years break and my God this ELECTRO HOUSE was goin non-stop at the same clubs. Alot of it had that latin beat as well.

Is this happening all over the world as well and has Trance as the prime force taken a step back for this new ELECTRO HOUSE thing.

Sorry if I SOUND NAIVE here but it will be interesting to see what peoples opinions are and whether Trance greats are also getting a little ELECTRO house NOW IN THIER BEATS AND FEEL.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-13-2009 13:38:

Electro house is probably quite a bit more popular than trance at the moment in most places. Some form of house music has almost always been more popular than trance anyway.

I wish it were a good type of house rather than "electro," which I find mostly unlistenable...

Posted by kliq on Jan-13-2009 13:44:

well where im from the sound is definitely house and techno, trance has clearly taken a back seat... and its down to DJs here not playing trance as well as clubbers disliking the traditionally long break down (~2 mins), a major reason why trance never took off in the first place...

Posted by denys envy on Jan-13-2009 13:55:

Well, I'll tell you that THE SAME THING is happening stateside. A lot of clubs HAVE JUMPED on the electro bandwagon. I think it all started with BIG TRANCE DJs including it in their sets, or USING SOME ELECTRO ELEMENTS in their productions.

Ohh, and don't forget DEADMAU5,

Posted by david.michael on Jan-13-2009 13:58:

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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-13-2009 14:03:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
or USING SOME ELECTRO ELEMENTS in their productions.

You mean ADDED A BUZZING SOUND and called it ELECTRO.

Posted by Meat187 on Jan-13-2009 14:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You mean ADDED A FARTING SOUND and called it ELECTRO.

Fixed.

Posted by denys envy on Jan-13-2009 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You mean ADDED A BUZZING SOUND and called it ELECTRO.

yes, that.

Posted by technomonster on Jan-13-2009 14:48:

the interesting thing is.
will the most famous Trance dj's lose thier fame abit because of this shift.

From my layman point of view the Trance DJ'S like TIESTO are the most famous DJ's in the world or should I say - have been.

Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 15:33:

Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-13-2009 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
the interesting thing is.
will the most famous Trance dj's lose thier fame abit because of this shift.

Any evidence to back that up?

Posted by woscar on Jan-13-2009 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
the interesting thing is.
will the most famous Trance dj's lose thier fame abit because of this shift.

From my layman point of view the Trance DJ'S like TIESTO are the most famous DJ's in the world or should I say - have been.

The "most famous trance DJ's" have shifted a bit towards "electro house" mostly because that's what's popular. If anything, playing this shit has made them even more famous.

Posted by denys envy on Jan-13-2009 15:56:

I don't think you guys UNDERSTAND THE concept of FADS.

Posted by smekzg on Jan-13-2009 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
the interesting thing is.
will the most famous Trance dj's lose thier fame abit because of this shift.

From my layman point of view the Trance DJ'S like TIESTO are the most famous DJ's in the world or should I say - have been.

PvD Too, his vonyc sessions are,gently speaking, asswhipe compared to the stuff that he played ~5 years ago. its the same with every other big shot dj

clubs - same thing: cheap music + tons of fcuks with no sense for music whatsoever = profit.

Posted by DJ Blitzkrieg on Jan-13-2009 17:37:

Sebastien Leger makes great electro house, so i wouldn't say it's completely unlistenable.

Posted by Tetraflux on Jan-13-2009 19:09:

trance circa 98-03 yes.

electro house - No. Progressive house yes.

sebastien leger, deadmau, prydz, angello, ingrosso - all produce/play quality prog house.

jaques lu cont could be classed as electro house.. he is good.

Posted by elFreak on Jan-13-2009 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Electro house is probably quite a bit more popular than trance at the moment in most places. Some form of house music has almost always been more popular than trance anyway.

I wish it were a good type of house rather than "electro," which I find mostly unlistenable...

almost

when the superstar dj phase began, trance dominated everything.

this is like comparing aids vs cancer.

Posted by technomonster on Jan-16-2009 08:20:

it will be interesting to see how trance goes in the supposed recession/depression, especially if the recession goes for a long time.

Maybe Trance might be soothing. hey hey

Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Jan-16-2009 09:48:

quote:
Originally posted by kliq
... clubbers disliking the traditionally long break down (~2 mins), a major reason why trance never took off in the first place...

Agree. The long break down is definitely one of the most detrimental and over used aspects of trance IMO. Trance is very accessible compared to many other genres but the long break downs bore the hell out of people on the dance floors.

Posted by kliq on Jan-16-2009 10:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
Agree. The long break down is definitely one of the most detrimental and over used aspects of trance IMO. Trance is very accessible compared to many other genres but the long break downs bore the hell out of people on the dance floors.

exactly... trance being the most melodic, is the easiest to crossover to the majority of the public and EDM noob community, but most of them wont get the whole long breakdown, where they just end up standing around wondering what to do... takes a really charismatic DJ to encourage the whole 'hands in the air' and then 'clapping' towards the buildup to get the crowd going...

Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-16-2009 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by technomonster
it will be interesting to see how trance goes in the supposed recession/depression, especially if the recession goes for a long time.

Maybe Trance might be soothing. hey hey

Are you alluding to the fact that trance needs a government bailout?

Let's write up a Give Trance a Chance bill.

Posted by Darkarbiter on Jan-16-2009 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Are you alluding to the fact that trance needs a government bailout?

Let's write up a Give Trance a Chance bill.

Posted by noicuc on Jan-16-2009 14:19:

is

King Unique - Yohkoh a dirty house track? I know its house , but is it dirty house? What about

Motorcitysoul- Space Katzle(Jerome Sydenham Remix)?

Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Jan-16-2009 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by kliq
exactly... trance being the most melodic, is the easiest to crossover to the majority of the public and EDM noob community, but most of them wont get the whole long breakdown, where they just end up standing around wondering what to do... takes a really charismatic DJ to encourage the whole 'hands in the air' and then 'clapping' towards the buildup to get the crowd going...

Exactly, but even that grows old after 3 tracks and then you have the same lengthy breakdowns in EVERY track of the set to look forward to

Posted by woscar on Jan-16-2009 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by kliq
... takes a really charismatic DJ to encourage the whole 'hands in the air' and then 'clapping' towards the buildup to get the crowd going...

Enter, the "Jesus Pose":

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