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Posted by TheDemon on Jan-14-2009 21:28:

Ex-officer charged with murder in BART shooting

27 year old Johannes Mehserle was charged today with murder after fleeing to Nevada and being caught.

Source:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/14...hooting.arrest/

Nice way to show your innocence, by running away to another state and trying to hide out.


Posted by chinamon on Jan-14-2009 22:21:

i dont see whats so special about this article since tons of people flee the state/province after they commit a crime... unless it is the first time you've heard of this.


Posted by TheDemon on Jan-15-2009 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i dont see whats so special about this article since tons of people flee the state/province after they commit a crime... unless it is the first time you've heard of this.


This event is getting a lot of coverage world wide. The man who shot the suspect and then fled is a police officer. There's more to it. Don't know if you heard of the recent even involving Oscar Grant?

here's some insight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_P..._of_Oscar_Grant


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-15-2009 01:46:

BART Simpson was shot?

this is a sad day


Posted by TheDemon on Jan-15-2009 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
BART Simpson was shot?

this is a sad day


Ya what a day eh! lol. poor Bart. he wasn't even old enough to have a will for his family.


Posted by devnull on Jan-15-2009 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
BART Simpson was shot?

this is a sad day

that was my first thought when i saw the thread!


Posted by charli on Jan-15-2009 02:25:


Posted by TheDemon on Jan-15-2009 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by charli


I hurts to watch that video each time.


Posted by charli on Jan-15-2009 04:06:


Posted by spitty on Jan-15-2009 04:58:

from that video, its easy to believe that he thought it was a taser. he looks so surprised at what just happened and looks like he was trying to explain his mistake to the other cop. doesn't look like a hot-headed, abusive cop

any idea what the BART-issued tasers look like. in a panic, could a relatively young officer mistaken a taser for a real gun?


Posted by Jben on Jan-15-2009 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by spitty
from that video, its easy to believe that he thought it was a taser. he looks so surprised at what just happened and looks like he was trying to explain his mistake to the other cop. doesn't look like a hot-headed, abusive cop

any idea what the BART-issued tasers look like. in a panic, could a relatively young officer mistaken a taser for a real gun?


It doesn't really matter, does it?

Like TheDemon said
quote:
Nice way to show your innocence, by running away to another state and trying to hide out.


Posted by 8Wonders on Jan-15-2009 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by spitty
from that video, its easy to believe that he thought it was a taser. he looks so surprised at what just happened and looks like he was trying to explain his mistake to the other cop. doesn't look like a hot-headed, abusive cop

any idea what the BART-issued tasers look like. in a panic, could a relatively young officer mistaken a taser for a real gun?


Pretty sure tasers don't have a pistol grip or a trigger, and pretty sure pistols have a safety trigger. Yeah.


Posted by zoogla on Jan-15-2009 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
Pretty sure tasers don't have a pistol grip or a trigger, and pretty sure pistols have a safety trigger. Yeah.

lol exactly what I was thinking when I read spitty's response...
quote:
Originally posted by spitty
doesn't look like a hot-headed, abusive cop

lol how can u come to that conclusion? the guy comes off looking like a racist, redneck asshole. I hope he fries.

let alone the tragedy for the family or the other guys pinned against the wall who saw this from inches away, but all the black people in the train?!! I don't think I'd have the balls to step out, but that shit was absolutely ridiculous. Shame on American police enforcement!!!

I'm still pissed off at the Vancouver airport police for the taser incident. fucking lazy assholes, use ur fists the old fashioned way.


Posted by Swamper on Jan-15-2009 07:13:

Apparently he went to Nevada to get away from all the death threats

Map:



and even bigger wtf:

Link

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - A new court filing alleges that the 22-year-old man killed by a Bay Area transit officer had his hands behind his back and another officer was kneeling on his neck when he was shot.

The allegations were contained in an Oakland police officer's request Tuesday to issue an arrest warrant for Johannes Mehserle.


The 27-year-old Mehserle has been charged with murder in the New
Year's Day shooting of Oscar Grant.

The court filing said it appeared from cell phone video that "Mehserle shot and killed Oscar Grant while Grant was restrained and unarmed."

Mehserle was arrested in Nevada Tuesday evening and was returning to Oakland Wednesday.


Posted by zoogla on Jan-15-2009 08:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Apparently he went to Nevada to get away from all the death threats

Map:


how is that a "wtf"? that's like SO far away!!!

lol he prolly wanted to do some due diligence with the prosties before he becomes somebody's bitch lol


Posted by activate on Jan-15-2009 08:57:

wow... hadn't seen that vid. disturbing. Wish you could see what happened after...


Looks to me like it was accidental... he looking like he was in serious shock after it happened. That being said.. that's one BIG ASS FUCK UP, and definitely warrants a severe punishment IMO. Not first degree murder, but that's def manslaughter.


As for him leaving the state, doubt he wasn't running.. he hadn't been charged with any yet. He was probably trying to get away from all the shit that's being happening in his home town.


Posted by activate on Jan-15-2009 09:04:

I just watched other video's from other angles. Looks like that whole situation was pretty out of control. people were approaching the cops from the side and challenging them... everyone yelling at them. maybe the one that pulled his gun and just doesn't cope with stressful situations well.. and well.. panicked.

who knows..


Posted by Kellyboop on Jan-15-2009 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
I hurts to watch that video each time.


Agreed. Why did the guy get punched? They seemed to be cooperating physically and mouthing off does not give the cops the right to punch him.

So sad


Posted by spitty on Jan-15-2009 12:00:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
Pretty sure tasers don't have a pistol grip or a trigger, and pretty sure pistols have a safety trigger. Yeah.


not all tasers apparently. grip, trigger, safety...



fahad, i don't know anything more than what i saw on the video and in that video, it doesn't look like he meant to shot the kid. it looks more like an unexperienced, overwhelmed cop who made a stupid mistake in the heat of a messy statement.

ps. reading more....the guys on the platform had been fighting on the subway, and harassing other riders, hence the initial arrest..


Posted by zoogla on Jan-15-2009 17:36:

i wonder what kind of psychological evaluations these officer go through before being allowed to carry lethal weapons.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jan-15-2009 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by fayraree
i wonder what kind of psychological evaluations these officer go through before being allowed to carry lethal weapons.


I was wondering the same thing
if he is new, he's supposed to be under a supervision of a more senior officer

there is NO excuse for such behaviour - freaked out? too bad soo sad, you fuck!


Posted by VDub on Jan-15-2009 19:53:


Posted by Yohan on Jan-15-2009 20:06:

not that i condone this cop's actions, but it's a scary feeling when you're faced against a mob mentality


Posted by VDub on Jan-15-2009 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
not that i condone this cop's actions, but it's a scary feeling when you're faced against a mob mentality


Don't be abusive to the detainee, and the mob won't get mental...


Posted by 8Wonders on Jan-15-2009 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
not that i condone this cop's actions, but it's a scary feeling when you're faced against a mob mentality


What mob? Bunch of people on the subway? Or the 4 guys handcuffed, sitting on the floor.

There is no possible way you can justify anything this guy did. One, the suspect was face down on the floor, handcuffed, how much threat can he pose? Two, there were TWO police officers on him and three, even if he was cursing at them in a position he was in, this doesn't justify use of any force, whether lethal or non lethal.

This guy should fry x 3.


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