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Smile and say "cheese" citations

Have you gotten a traffic citation in the mail due to those cameras at certain intersections and fought it?

I have never fought it because its a loose loose situation, UNLESS you are positve you didnt break the law.

If you fight it though, they will make u set a date for you to come back. When you go back they will show you 2+ different angles of video from the citation.

So yeah, you can fight it. But just be warned they will have the video already cue'd up.

In Phoenix they just put them on certain areas of the freeway to get you for speeding. That's fucked up.

I already saw the video online.

Light turns red as I approach intersection to make a right turn unto the freeway. I pass the line, *snap shot*, stop, move foward to see if any traffic is coming from my left and then proceed turning right. There isn't a sign that says "No right turn on Red" either.

Fight it the worst thing you'll do is waste time.

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Originally posted by TSG I already saw the video online. Light turns red as I approach intersection to make a right turn unto the freeway. I pass the line, *snap shot*, stop, move foward to see if any traffic is coming from my left and then proceed turning left. There isn't a sign that says "No right turn on Red" either.

Then you will get a ticket for "stopping past the limit line" and not a red light ticket.

The limit line ticket is WAY cheaper and i think its not a moving violation.

There's a ticket for that? I had to move up to see if there was traffic coming cuz there was a truck blocking my view.

I got a ticket that wasn't even me on the video. Hahaha When I saw the video, it was my brother driving his own car. How the hell did they think it was me, it's a mistery.

Sadly there is, i got one like 7-8 years ago at the street races down here in San Diego. He had nothing on me but that. So i got that ticket since i refused to pop my hood and i wasn't racing at that time.

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Originally posted by DjWoody I got a ticket that wasn't even me on the video. Hahaha When I saw the video, it was my brother driving his own car. How the hell did they think it was me, it's a mistery.

Is the car reg'd under your name?

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Originally posted by TSG There's a ticket for that? I had to move up to see if there was traffic coming cuz there was a truck blocking my view.

They will get you for the greater violation.

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Originally posted by DjWoody I got a ticket that wasn't even me on the video. Hahaha When I saw the video, it was my brother driving his own car. How the hell did they think it was me, it's a mistery.

if the car was registered to you then send you the ticket.

I had one taken almost 2 years ago...I kinda fought it. I admitted I was at fault but it was either stop in the intersetion or go thru. I said my brakes were bad and they were. They reduced the fine and I got traffic school to take care of the citation.

I had another one taken but I havent gotten anything in the mail and this was back in Nov. I'm thinking the camera wasnt working. YAY!

From what I know of, they will dismiss this. They can't change the ticket after the fact.

Unfortunately, these kinds of citations tend to be more hefty because the city gets only a percentage of the fine and a big chunk will go to the private company that operates these cameras.

I got caught on camera for a not coming to a full stop("California Roll") while making a right turn when it was red. I went to the court to ask for a fine reduction because I thought $350 was too steep. The judge told me that in camera cases, they can't reduce the fine. Ugh.

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Originally posted by Koolaid74 Unfortunately, these kinds of citations tend to be more hefty because the city gets only a percentage of the fine and a big chunk will go to the private company that operates these cameras.

Sad thing is, more and more private companies are getting rich alongside the government. The gov should be taking in all that money, not splitting it 2 or 3 ways.

As far as fighting it, i found this:

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/

Just google "fight red light camera ticket california" and you get an endless amount of sites giving you the do's and don'ts on fighting it.

I just got a parking ticket for parking in faculty parking in school....

w00t.

Someone should take this whole thing to a court

Companies & Cities cannot have any part of the fine calculated in with the intent to earn profit.

The city of SF got in huge trouble a couple years ago because someone was boneheaded and in their budget discussed how much money they expected to make off of parking tickets, intersection cameras, etc etc. The uproar was that the fines are in place to penalize people and not supposed to be a means for the city to earn revenue.

It's actually illegal to see revenue from tickets in that way..

So privately they can, but publically ti's a big no-no.

I am probably making no sense. ignore me.

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Originally posted by Koolaid74 The judge told me that in camera cases, they can't reduce the fine. Ugh.

This actually applies to ALL red light violations. There are two violations that a judge (at least in California) can NOT lower due to minimum fines. These two are HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle, aka carpool lane) and red light violations.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel This actually applies to ALL red light violations. There are two violations that a judge (at least in California) can NOT lower due to minimum fines. These two are HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle, aka carpool lane) and red light violations.

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Originally posted by Nerologic When you go back they will show you 2+ different angles of video from the citation. So yeah, you can fight it. But just be warned they will have the video already cue'd up.

That media is already available on their website for you to view beforehand.

you're supposed to stop before the line at a red light. if you want to turn on a red, then you can proceed after you've stopped. passing that line on a red is considered running a red. that's what the judge will tell you. in the same respect, if you "run a yellow" as long as your front axle passes the line before it turns red, you're in the clear even if your car is still passing through the intersection when another light turns green.

Here's what you're supposed to do by law that NO ONE ever does. Sucks that you got caught for it.

You're supposed to stop fully behind the line and THEN creep up a little past so you can see if if its safe to turn or not.

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Originally posted by TSG There's a ticket for that? I had to move up to see if there was traffic coming cuz there was a truck blocking my view.

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Originally posted by TSG Light turns red as I approach intersection to make a right turn unto the freeway. I pass the line, *snap shot*, stop, move foward to see if any traffic is coming from my left and then proceed turning left. There isn't a sign that says "No right turn on Red" either.

i think there lies the problem. you turned left when you're supposed to make a right

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Originally posted by skizzell That media is already available on their website for you to view beforehand.

Yeah thats what i realized. It wasnt back in the day when a grip of my friends where getting tickets.

My lucky day!

*UPDATE*

Went to court today and my ticket got dismissed! In fact it was already dismissed before I get there!

Anyway, according to one of the sheriffs (BTW... he was freakin fine!) He told me that he viewed the video and upon his opinion, there was no way that I would have or could have caused any kind of accident or damage. He saw that I did stop (a little bit pass the line) and then I proceeded with caution in making my turn into the freeway. However, he said that technically when one crosses over the line, it is considered an infraction but in my case it was OK.

YAY!!!! I'll be getting back my $381.00!!!


Now I'm waiting to see if a get another thingy in the mail from the same corner that I said "cheese" about a month ago!

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