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Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 03:42:
studio ideas
I'm on a budget for putting together a compact studio for two and I've decided it's about damn time I make this happen once and for all. I'm not too serious about producing, so I'm not looking at having the latest PC/keyboards/amps/etc... This is just something I'm putting together for fun. At the same time, most materials/machines are based on a low energy, non-carbon basis.
Any ideas are welcome.
What it looks like now:
What I'm planning on doing. Ignore the lighting on my shitty rendering skills lol.
(equipment shown is not actual equipment)
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 03:49:
Three most important parts of a studio are in no particular order
1. Monitors
2. Computer
3. Audio Interface
spend half your budget on the monitors and acoustic treatment
Posted by Frenchie on Jan-22-2009 03:54:
...and the other half on drugs.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 03:56:
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...and the other half on drugs. |
I already did that. Now I have no monitors.
Posted by Frenchie on Jan-22-2009 03:56:
The drugs are to make you forget you spent the other half on drugs.
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 03:58:
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Originally posted by Zild
Three most important parts of a studio are in no particular order
1. Monitors
2. Computer
3. Audio Interface
spend half your budget on the monitors and acoustic treatment |
The audio interface is on its way. The monitor will be a tv/lcd hdmi monitor, and the computer I'm currently building.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 03:59:
tard monitors are speakers
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 03:59:
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Originally posted by Zild
Three most important parts of a studio are in no particular order
1. Monitors
2. Computer
3. Audio Interface
spend half your budget on the monitors and acoustic treatment |
1. focal twin six
2. mac pro desktop
3. apogee ensemble
Posted by Matthew D on Jan-22-2009 04:00:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
The audio interface is on its way. The monitor will be a tv/lcd hdmi monitor, and the computer I'm currently building. |
I think he meant audio monitors, i.e. Your studio speakers.
Posted by ryan3243 on Jan-22-2009 04:08:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
The audio interface is on its way. The monitor will be a tv/lcd hdmi monitor, and the computer I'm currently building. |
let me know if you need any help building your PC. i am very knowledgeable when it comes to that stuff. also let me know if you need any help with anything since you live right around the corner.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 04:09:
What interface are you getting?
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 04:15:
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Originally posted by ryan3243
let me know if you need any help building your PC. i am very knowledgeable when it comes to that stuff. also let me know if you need any help with anything since you live right around the corner. |
Sure thing nigga.
As a matter of fact, I might even hit you up so that we could go get the parts together. They are partially on hold for me at directron.
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 04:16:
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Originally posted by Zild
What interface are you getting? |
M-Audio 410....just because it's $250 and there is easy setup with it via ableton and my axiom 61
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 04:17:
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Originally posted by Matthew D
I think he meant audio monitors, i.e. Your studio speakers. |
Studio speakers I'm still debating, and scouring the interwebz for dealz.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 04:18:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
M-Audio 410....just because it's $250 and there is easy setup with it via ableton and my axiom 61 |
Ok just FYI I wouldn't go buying any expensive external hardware like mics unless you buy a nice outboard pre amp or synths or anything that is going to be going through that AD/DA signal chain until you upgrade to something better.
Posted by ryan3243 on Jan-22-2009 04:49:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
Sure thing nigga.
As a matter of fact, I might even hit you up so that we could go get the parts together. They are partially on hold for me at directron. |
just let me know when. btw, i'm going to the range Sunday if you wanna tag along. i'll let you shoot a few rounds from my guns if you want. just hit me up. also, did you get my facebook message. the future of jailbreaking for your ipod is bright.
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 05:15:
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Originally posted by ryan3243
just let me know when. btw, i'm going to the range Sunday if you wanna tag along. i'll let you shoot a few rounds from my guns if you want. just hit me up. also, did you get my facebook message. the future of jailbreaking for your ipod is bright. |
The round of golf with the coworker got cancelled due to some family health issues, so I may actually be able to go on sunday. I'm also getting my Jetta painted and I'm not sure which day I'll have to drop it off, but it's going to be in the shop for 3-5 days.
I got your facebook thing but I havent had time to look at that webpage yet. I'll check it out.
Posted by Carlos Pereira on Jan-22-2009 05:17:
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Originally posted by Zild
Ok just FYI I wouldn't go buying any expensive external hardware like mics unless you buy a nice outboard pre amp or synths or anything that is going to be going through that AD/DA signal chain until you upgrade to something better. |
I dont think mics are on the wishlist. Synths on the other hand, may come in handy pretty soon.
What do you recommend getting that's inexpensive yet reliable? Fuck name brand, I just want something that will get the job done and will continue holding me at #1 dj of the universe.
Posted by Don Fili on Jan-22-2009 05:53:
Cee...invite me when its all done 
Posted by ryan3243 on Jan-22-2009 05:56:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
The round of golf with the coworker got cancelled due to some family health issues, so I may actually be able to go on sunday. I'm also getting my Jetta painted and I'm not sure which day I'll have to drop it off, but it's going to be in the shop for 3-5 days.
I got your facebook thing but I havent had time to look at that webpage yet. I'll check it out. |
we're planning on going around 11am or noon. just give me a call and i'll swing by and pick you up if you wanna go.
Posted by jonas on Jan-22-2009 14:48:
Since you're on a budget, you shouldn't get anything bigger than this.
Posted by Matthias on Jan-22-2009 15:50:
Re: studio ideas
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
I'm not too serious about producing, so I'm not looking at having the latest PC/keyboards/amps/etc... |
I'm serious about learning to produce, but I dont have the latest and greatest either. Its never about what you have, but how you use it to produce good music.
Like other said, you you a good pair of flat response studio monitors, you dont necessarily need to spend a shitload on Genelics.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 15:55:
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Originally posted by Matthias
I'm serious about learning to produce, but I dont have the latest and greatest either. Its never about what you have, but how you use it to produce good music.
Like other said, you you a good pair of flat response studio monitors, you dont necessarily need to spend a shitload on Genelics. |
Yep you can go all software as long as you have good monitors. That is the most important part it is hard to get out a good song if you can't hear into the reverb tails and hear how your instruments are being panned in the stereo field etc...
You don't have to go with Gens but I'd at the very least go with ADAM A5s/A7s unless you want to upgrade again. Like I said ideally you should spend half your budget on monitors. My problem right now is that I can get something sounding great on my sound here at home, but it doesn't translate. Proper monitors will fix that for me.
Posted by Zild on Jan-22-2009 15:58:
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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
I dont think mics are on the wishlist. Synths on the other hand, may come in handy pretty soon.
What do you recommend getting that's inexpensive yet reliable? Fuck name brand, I just want something that will get the job done and will continue holding me at #1 dj of the universe. |
You should stick with software synths for quite a while. Like I said you won't hear much of a difference without spending 4grand on monitors and an audio interface, so save that money and stick with software.
Posted by Matthias on Jan-22-2009 21:10:
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Originally posted by Zild
You should stick with software synths for quite a while. Like I said you won't hear much of a difference without spending 4grand on monitors and an audio interface, so save that money and stick with software. |
Besides that, they have VST versions of the Novation K2, Access Virus and the Nord Lead synths that, in my opinion, sound pretty damn good. Two of these are for the Powercore MkII Pci card, but there should be independant VST versions of them.
Zild, you sound like you have some audio engineering education, very nice. I took some courses with HCC but most of what I know/understand is from books, self-study.
I'd also recommend learning audio engineering, primarily know how to get a good mix, understand effects sends/returns, busses and sub-groups, uses of compression, mastering.
Have a audio interface (and a fast enough computer) that can record at 24 or 32 bit, and at 196khz audio. Keeping your audio in the highest format before dithering down to 16bit/44.1 gets the most resolution (sound quality) out of your track.
I hope some of this is making sense...
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