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Posted by IlanG on Jan-27-2009 14:27:

Nuclear weapon from Iran within a year

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...200901415211260

Thoughts?


Posted by Krypton on Jan-27-2009 15:07:

I'm skeptical. First, they assume the Iranians goal of enrichment is specifically for nuclear weapons. Second, what intelligence are they using to base their assumptions. Does this institute know something the CIA does not know? I don't think so. They didn't even mention how they got to this "Iran could have enough enriched uranium for the bomb" conclusion. Third, there is no evidence of an ongoing Iranian nuclear weapons program, so one can't even make the assumption of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. The Israelis don't even have that evidence...


Posted by Damerchi on Jan-27-2009 15:09:

I would like to see a NWFZ in the middle east, just like south america.

this would require a certain member state to disband their entire stockpile. and sign the NPT.


Posted by Krypton on Jan-27-2009 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
I would like to see a NWFZ in the middle east, just like south america.

this would require a certain member state to disband their entire stockpile. and sign the NPT.


Now now, we all know that member state and its daddy don't subscribe to international laws unless it serves their own interest.


Posted by Kinezi on Jan-27-2009 19:33:

Whats taking them so long?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-27-2009 21:27:

Oh here we go again with the typical bullshit intelligence from CIA

I hope they get a damn nuke just to piss off Israel.


Posted by Lemonad on Jan-27-2009 23:03:

The stupid Israelis kept this charade going on, i mean for the last 2 years they have been spreading bullshit about Iran being close to a bomb or having one at the end of the year..

Now the end of the year came and no bomb... They are full of shit, period!


Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-28-2009 00:16:



OMG, Iran will develop its first nuke and then attack Israel so that it can get nuked in return! BEWARE OF THE LOGIC.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-28-2009 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


OMG, Iran will develop its first nuke and then attack Israel so that it can get nuked in return! BEWARE OF THE LOGIC.


The exact same logic established the paradigm through which we viewed the international system during the Cold War.


Posted by Damerchi on Jan-28-2009 05:26:

"preemptive" strikes will probably happen before anything is finished, unless the Iranians can outsmart the Mossaad and hide their stash.

Iraq...Syria...now Iran.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-28-2009 06:54:

Do it now before it's too late!!!1!!!



Posted by Q5echo on Jan-28-2009 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Oh here we go again with the typical bullshit intelligence from CIA


my God you people can't pay attention to save your damn lives it seems like.

1) this isn't the CIA saying this. it's the IISS

2) the CIA said in November 2007 Iran probably stopped their weaponization program in 2003 >LINK< something just about every Bush hater here lauded in it's apparent rebuke of Chimpy McBushitler's Iran policy...retards

3) the IISS has stated repeatedly essentially the same thing in 2006 stating that it was "inevitable" >HERE< and again in 2007 saying they were 2-3 years away >HERE< it's 2009 and guess what?

quote:
I hope they get a damn nuke just to destroy Israel.


fixed. why not just be honest?


Posted by IlanG on Jan-28-2009 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
"preemptive" strikes will probably happen before anything is finished, unless the Iranians can outsmart the Mossaad and hide their stash.

Iraq...Syria...now Iran.


Bombing Iran's nuclear facilities will be much harder.

Unlike the Iraqi and Syrian reactors, Iran's nuclear facilities are scattered across the country and some of them are underground.


Posted by Q5echo on Jan-28-2009 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
"preemptive" strikes will probably happen before anything is finished, unless the Iranians can outsmart the Mossaad and hide their stash.



too late. Iran has out smarted everyone on this. they will have a deliverable weapon eventually and there won't be anything anybody will be able to do about it.

their program is too dipursed, too redundant, too classified and buried too deep to make a definitive assurances of a quick effective pre-emption.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-28-2009 13:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
too late. Iran has out smarted everyone on this. they will have a deliverable weapon eventually and there won't be anything anybody will be able to do about it.

their program is too dipursed, too redundant, too classified and buried too deep to make a definitive assurances of a quick effective pre-emption.


and whose foreign policy do we have to blame for this? nothing like rabid hawks to get us into this mess. rhetoric over diplomacy. now north korea and (supposedly) iran have armed themselves. fantastic.


Posted by Damerchi on Jan-28-2009 15:04:

Im with the beleif that Mosaad is always one step ahead of the game, regardless of the picture that mainstream media portrays. If they dont match up to their reputation then it will hopefully just become another india pakistan showdown with the nucleur intimidation.

if not, we're fucked, and im camping in the desert


Posted by Q5echo on Jan-28-2009 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and whose foreign policy do we have to blame for this?


Many. Who do you have in mind specifically to answer such a vague and naive question regarding something as complicated as a country like Iran illegaly obtaining weapons of genocide?

quote:
nothing like rabid hawks to get us into this mess.


i know, right? Those fuckin mullahs in Tehran got to just let some shit go,you know? Jeeeez just let it go. Get on with bigger and brighter things.

quote:
now north korea and (supposedly) iran have armed themselves. fantastic.


I take that to mean you would rather not see countries like Iran and the Norks have nuclear weapons? It wouldn't be because the governments of those countries are batshit crazy would it? No one would fault you for that, they're fucking nuts!

also again, I take this all to mean you're implying all of the things that the Mullahs or the Norks have done in history to illegally obtain weapons of genocide was a response to the last, I don't know, eight years of US policy? am I understanding you correctly?


Posted by LazFX on Jan-28-2009 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo

I take that to mean you would rather not see countries like Iran and the Norks have nuclear weapons? It wouldn't be because the governments of those countries are batshit crazy would it? No one would fault you for that, they're fucking nuts!



Posted by Krypton on Jan-28-2009 20:44:

Why is it the nuclear armed countries get to dictate to the rest of the world? Fuck that.


Posted by IlanG on Jan-28-2009 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Why is it the nuclear armed countries get to dictate to the rest of the world? Fuck that.


Unlike Israel or USA, Iran is threatening to destroy wipe a country off the map.


Posted by Krypton on Jan-28-2009 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by IlanG
Unlike Israel or USA, Iran is threatening to destroy wipe a country off the map.


No, actually, they are not threatening to wipe Israel off the map. They have called for regime change in Israel, which is no different, from the US actually enforcing its regime change policy on whoever they want. Also, Iran isn't stupid enough to touch Israel, which has the capacity to completely annihilate Iran many times over. Think about it...


Posted by Q5echo on Jan-28-2009 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Why is it the nuclear armed countries get to dictate to the rest of the world? Fuck that.


do you own a gun or know anyone close to you that owns firearms?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-28-2009 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
Many. Who do you have in mind specifically to answer such a vague and naive question regarding something as complicated as a country like Iran illegaly obtaining weapons of genocide?



i know, right? Those fuckin mullahs in Tehran got to just let some shit go,you know? Jeeeez just let it go. Get on with bigger and brighter things.



I take that to mean you would rather not see countries like Iran and the Norks have nuclear weapons? It wouldn't be because the governments of those countries are batshit crazy would it? No one would fault you for that, they're fucking nuts!

also again, I take this all to mean you're implying all of the things that the Mullahs or the Norks have done in history to illegally obtain weapons of genocide was a response to the last, I don't know, eight years of US policy? am I understanding you correctly?


that i blame the regimes in korea and iran is a given. im not saying it was a "response" to perceived US threats, but the natural progression of a US policy of "no talkies".

knock yourself out:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/showdown/


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-28-2009 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by IlanG
Unlike Israel or USA, Iran is threatening to destroy wipe a country off the map.


Didnt you ******s just almost wiped Gaza off the map and got away with it?


Posted by Krypton on Jan-28-2009 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
do you own a gun or know anyone close to you that owns firearms?


I own a nuclear submarine. Wanna join my crew?


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