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Posted by BTG on Jan-28-2009 00:15:

sighn. 3 red rings.

4th time i've sent it in for repairs.

on the same day RE5 demo gets released. god i hate you microsoft.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-28-2009 00:29:

2 years old. overclocked to fuck. not a single issue.

you get what you pay for.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-28-2009 01:07:

Almost 3 years old, not a single Red Ring instance yet.

Apparently my money was worth more.



But seriously, thats horrible, MS really did fuck up the physical aspect of their console.


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Jan-28-2009 01:12:

My 29 year old intellivision stopped working recently.


Posted by Sinnica Hax on Jan-28-2009 01:27:

Intellivision was the SHIT, Thunder Castle for the win!


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Jan-28-2009 01:51:

I miss burger time


Posted by chach on Jan-28-2009 01:58:

haha thats what you get for having a 360 and a sucky life lol


Posted by Spam on Jan-28-2009 02:50:

Re: sighn. 3 red rings.

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
4th time i've sent it in for repairs.

on the same day RE5 demo gets released. god i hate you microsoft.


What the fuck are you doing to your 360 man? Leaving it on but idle all day? Letting your cats sleep on it while a cd's spinning? Do you have it sitting in front of a heat vent, standing vertical, throwing sand through the ventilation? Did you make the mistake of buying it within it's first year on the market?


3 years, no problems, sitting horizontal on a dresser top, well away from any heating vents, and my cats know they're getting tossed across the room if they come within a foot of the damn thing.


Posted by Capitalizt on Jan-28-2009 04:37:

I'll be waiting for the next revision before I buy. The one after Jasper is supposed to have a top to bottom redesign of the innards.


Posted by mezzir on Jan-28-2009 04:57:

luck of the draw perhaps?
don't take great care of mine, and additionally i've flashed the cd drive and thus taken it apart a few times, and no problems so far other than a slightly noisier than normal cd drive


Posted by Pjotr G on Jan-28-2009 16:06:

I'm on my 3rd unit


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jan-28-2009 16:43:

Must be placement so it's overheating or it's been hit/getting hit/banged up...something seems odd.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-28-2009 19:16:

I don't trust the whole vertical standing thing. I never did. Never did it with my PS2, or my PS3, or my 360. It just seems like it fucks up things more often than not.


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Jan-28-2009 22:33:

Yeah that's always seemed a bit akward to me. Surely optical drives are much more stable when horizontal?


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-29-2009 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
Yeah that's always seemed a bit akward to me. Surely optical drives are much more stable when horizontal?


I would think so. Whenever I put a game into a system that is standing vertical at a friends house or whatever, the disc is just dangling there, resting on that little lip thing that prevents it from falling out. It just looks like a bad idea, even if it does indeed work.


Posted by Spam on Jan-31-2009 20:57:

I don't mind the verticle placement on the Wii, but it's a slot-insert, not a tray, so it seems more stable to me.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-31-2009 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
I don't mind the verticle placement on the Wii, but it's a slot-insert, not a tray, so it seems more stable to me.


I don't think I've ever seen a Wii NOT be placed vertically. It seems that was the point of the design all along. I'll agree that the slot-insert makes the entire concept more stable, and that goes for the PS3 as well. I just get nervous with Sony's console since the damn thing is so bulky; although it would be near-impossible to knock over (unless somebody fell into it), it just LOOKS clumsy. I don't trust it. But the Wii is different.


Posted by Spam on Feb-01-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I don't think I've ever seen a Wii NOT be placed vertically. It seems that was the point of the design all along. I'll agree that the slot-insert makes the entire concept more stable, and that goes for the PS3 as well. I just get nervous with Sony's console since the damn thing is so bulky; although it would be near-impossible to knock over (unless somebody fell into it), it just LOOKS clumsy. I don't trust it. But the Wii is different.


LOL, PS3 certainly IS an example of how NOT to design a console. You'd think they'd learn after the original XBox fiasco. People don't want hulking behemoths sitting in their living room.


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Feb-01-2009 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
LOL, PS3 certainly IS an example of how NOT to design a console. You'd think they'd learn after the original XBox fiasco. People don't want hulking behemoths sitting in their living room.


No, but people want a piece of junk they have to send in for repairs every six months.

People are strange.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Feb-01-2009 01:30:

When it comes down to it, the PS3 is the most reliable, but its the most bulky. The 360 is not as bad in that respect, but its terrible underneath the hood, as it breaks down all the time.

So I guess the Wii wins this one. It's the smallest, works out well, but is also home to a lot of shitty games meant for people who don't really play video games.


Posted by Spam on Feb-01-2009 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
No, but people want a piece of junk they have to send in for repairs every six months.

People are strange.


A low percentage of the machines actually break down. Out of the 20 or so people I know who own a 360, 2 have had to send theirs in for repairs. One guy because he left it in front of a heat vent on the floor.

Even after that, an even lower percentage have to be sent in for repeat repairs. There are 25 million XBoxes in the world, and a few thousand overtly faulty machines at most, that you can get repaired 3 times before they make up the cost of a PS3.

Also, the games are better, the controller is much more comfortable, and since there are more users, there's more players on XBL.

Yup, value's a bitch.


Posted by BTG on Feb-01-2009 18:22:

Re: Re: sighn. 3 red rings.

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
What the fuck are you doing to your 360 man? Leaving it on but idle all day? Letting your cats sleep on it while a cd's spinning? Do you have it sitting in front of a heat vent, standing vertical, throwing sand through the ventilation? Did you make the mistake of buying it within it's first year on the market?


3 years, no problems, sitting horizontal on a dresser top, well away from any heating vents, and my cats know they're getting tossed across the room if they come within a foot of the damn thing.


i turn mine off when i'm done, it just sits in a tv stand with no doors and very open back end.

i only play nhl and it runs from the HDD and it is not standing up.

i dont know why i have such bad luck. at least its still under warranty.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Feb-01-2009 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I don't think I've ever seen a Wii NOT be placed vertically. It seems that was the point of the design all along. I'll agree that the slot-insert makes the entire concept more stable, and that goes for the PS3 as well. I just get nervous with Sony's console since the damn thing is so bulky; although it would be near-impossible to knock over (unless somebody fell into it), it just LOOKS clumsy. I don't trust it. But the Wii is different.

Mine's not vertical because it fits perfectly on top of my tower speakers.

Also, it's kind of funny, I have both of the behemoths in my living room, the old Xbox and the PS3. There are wires everywhere behind my entertainment center.

Oh, and my cousin just sent his Xbox back after he red-ringed. It was one of the factors I considered when buying the PS3, along with the yearly Xbox live membership fees and the Blu-Ray player.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Feb-02-2009 18:04:

For the original Xbox, the weakest link was the power supply they used, which was a tad underpowered, and some of the drives they used were shitty. The units that received the Phillips drives were much better, but still kinda shitty. The rest of the components were good. The 360 seems to have been built with shit components all the way around.

I agree with NOT mounting the consoles vertically...except for the Wii's which hold up well and rarely have any component failures. PS2 Slims are fine to mount vertically but I would still mount it horizontally to limit extra wear on the drive motor and laser mechanism. PS3 should definitely not be mounted vertically.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Feb-02-2009 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Mine's not vertical because it fits perfectly on top of my tower speakers.

Also, it's kind of funny, I have both of the behemoths in my living room, the old Xbox and the PS3. There are wires everywhere behind my entertainment center.

Oh, and my cousin just sent his Xbox back after he red-ringed. It was one of the factors I considered when buying the PS3, along with the yearly Xbox live membership fees and the Blu-Ray player.


I think Sony learned a lesson after the PS2 DRE debate that ended in lawsuits and pissed off consumers by building the PS3 like a tank. The failure rate is among the lowest in the history of consoles, which is quite a feat when you consider just how capable the machine is.

The Wii seems small enough that standing it vertically wouldn't seem risky, but it really comes down to what fits your setup the best, like you mentioned.


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