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spinning full tracks or choruses in clubs

What's the preference for you when you are in a club where the e.d.m is played- to listen to the full track or to want the tracks changed every chorus.

I am working on a new demo for this ent. company that will be posted on a pod cast.

I've usually worked my demo's playing the tracks full out in a 1 hour mix; although I have friends who recommend me to change up the tracks at every chorus.

I am working on a progressive house/ prog. trance demo right now in the next 20 minutes.

what's the pref.

a 1 hour demo mix isn't long, so that'll probably give you time for 9 or 10 full length tracks maybe(??). depending on the nature of the tracks i'd go for the quick change of track type of mix myself (techno/house) but prog tracks tend to utilise their length for best effect.

id say to play only the best parts of every track - so that doesn't mean having to stick to one type of mixing style throughout.

The guy who taught me to DJ used to mix to another tune after each chorus and I f'in hated it!

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Originally posted by sgb476 id say to play only the best parts of every track - so that doesn't mean having to stick to one type of mixing style throughout.

I would think that's generally the rule of thumb for mixing. Play the best part of every track (in most cases, skipping the intro and outro).

I like some intro/outro action to provide a break... as long as you don't go overboard with it and play nothing but empty beats for an hour, it can really break things up and makes it that much sweeter when something "new" comes in.

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Originally posted by david.michael I like some intro/outro action to provide a break... as long as you don't go overboard with it and play nothing but empty beats for an hour, it can really break things up and makes it that much sweeter when something "new" comes in.

Depends on the intro. If the intro is essential to setting the mood for the song, like if it has vocals or talking in the beginning that will help the listener understand the track better. I wouldn't really see outros as being useful except leading into an intro.

yea id recomend skipping intro/outro aswell the only way I use them is for talking inbetween songs if its nessacary

hire an italian guy to talk over your tracks.

Sometimes I think it's great to have long intros into each track, especially when they are long proggy tracks, just don't do this too often.
Also, mixing songs out early is usually a pretty bad idea I'd say. The first and only time I heard "Punk" out Rank 1 cut it well before it was over, I couldn't believe it.

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Originally posted by ziptnf ...If the intro is essential to setting the mood for the song, like if it has vocals or talking in the beginning that will help the listener understand the track better...

I've never heard the intro to "The Anthem" so I've always wondered what "This is the antheeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmm for the giiiiirrrl that got awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!" really means...

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Originally posted by denys envy hire Danny Tenaglia to talk over your tracks.

Fixed

This is a ridiculous question. Your basically asking us how to DJ. If you don't know when its appropriate to mix in and out, then you need to practice more IMO.

^ + 1 was having a good laugh reading the responses as well....

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Originally posted by kitphillips This is a ridiculous question. Your basically asking us how to DJ. If you don't know when its appropriate to mix in and out, then you need to practice more IMO.

Thank God someone said it. Choosing your mix in/out points is a key skill, and there's no universal rule at all. Depends entirely on the context.

I'd say that the question was more geared toward a Promo, in which I would play full tracks, but select songs that are shorter overall, so after the complete mix, I might get 14,15 tracks in an hour instead of 10. Do 2 different promos with 2 different genres and you'll have a diverse 2 promo, 2 Hours of 30 tracks [give or take]

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Originally posted by kitphillips This is a ridiculous question. Your basically asking us how to DJ. If you don't know when its appropriate to mix in and out, then you need to practice more IMO.

i know how to dj ive played sets in bc toronto and montr�al

i just asked for a preference of what peoples opinions were on a demo. tracks changed at the chorus or tracks played full out.

read.

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Originally posted by kliq ^ + 1 was having a good laugh reading the responses as well....

hey come on; both the advice AND anti-advice comments are as constructive as each other.

^ I honestly dont mean to put anyone down or discourage, especially since I havent been around this forum long enough to merit any sort of credibility...

but to me this topic just doesnt make much sense... as has been mentioned by other members, mix in points are:

1. incredibly important to maintaining good set flow
2. an extremely personal choice thats dependent on each individual DJ and his/her style...

I honestly believe each individual track can and will on the strength of its own merits have an individual style in which it can be brought in and there cannot be any generalization as the thread starter has made - as to when to bring in all the tracks

some tracks can be mixed out of outros, some post the 'chorus' as mentioned, and some can even be mixed out during breakdowns if you maintain key etc... but a complete generalization is downright foolishness...

ps. let me re-iterate that I dont mean to offend anyone...

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Originally posted by ep1x i know how to dj ive played sets in bc toronto and montr�al i just asked for a preference of what peoples opinions were on a demo. tracks changed at the chorus or tracks played full out. read.

Yeah, but dude, theres "sets" and theres **SETS**. If you were a big deal you wouldn't need a demo, so lets not be big noting ourselves here Regardless of whether you know how to DJ or not, the fact that your asking questions means that you know that you can still learn.

You should play the demo how you feel. Not how we tell you. Its the same as mixing in a club. If the promoter likes your mixing, feels you pick appropriate points to mix in/out at, which keep good flow and create the right atmosphere, then you'll get the gig. Otherwise, you won't. We can't tell you since there really is no preference. Its a completely stylistic choice, you should create your own style.

I suppose mixing in a new track every 2 minutes shows more technical skill, but probably also shows that you have very little respect for the music and are attention seeking and not letting the tracks shine through.

LOL at this thread and the people saying skip the intro. I always start mixing from the first beat of the incoming song independent of when I'm bringing it in.

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