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Posted by Lucidity on Feb-04-2009 12:59:

Question AKG K 701 cans---Anyone Got Em?

Hey guys, I've been using these shitty Sennheiser 280pro's, they sound great, but, are horrible for mixing and producing. I have good monitors but, I mostly make music at night when everyone is sleeping, so I need to be able to monitor my mixes with somewhat accuracy without my monitors.

So I have been searching, on this forum and elsewhere but, don't really hear much about these headphones besides the reviews on Sweetwater. So anyone have these or anyone know anything about them?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K701/


Edit: I know it is hard to monitor bass on headphones but, this is the one thing I am trying to accomplish. I just want to be able to get my whole mix including bass to be very close to where I want it. I can get it there with my 280 pro's, but, when i listen on other speakers to reference, it sounds totally opposite of how it sounded in the 280's. Will I be able to get close with the 701's?


Posted by djsphere on Feb-04-2009 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
Will I be able to get close with the 701's?


no one can guarantee you that u'll do better mixes with the akg headphones. but yeah compared to hd280s they are better.

i think a lot of people in here use the k240. you should check those also, i think they're a bit cheaper and sound quite nice.

good luck!


Posted by Fearless One on Feb-04-2009 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
i think a lot of people in here use the k240. you should check those also, i think they're a bit cheaper and sound quite nice.


i use them.. i haven't heard 701 but i can highy recommend you 240s


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-04-2009 22:13:

So when you guys mix on the 240's do your mixes translate to other systems well? Cause see, my problem isn't getting the mix right, cause I do get it right in my headphones, almost perfectly the way I want it, its just that it doesn't ever translate to other systems, which is why I want to try a new pair of cans.


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-04-2009 22:31:

Regarding the crappy mixes with the HD280Pros - that's not surprising. They're a closed-back and tight-fitting design that is better for tracking, where controlling bleed is important. They're not designed to be accurate, particularly in the lower frequencies. The HD600s are Sennheiser's best open-back mixing cans.

I've heard nothing but good things about the 701s, but have never heard them for myself. I'd consider the BeyerDynamic DT880s (semi-open) or DT990s (open-back) as well. I have the DT880s and love them.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Feb-04-2009 22:45:

i use 701's, amazing


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-04-2009 22:59:

I am looking at all the Beyerdynamics on Sweetwater, a few people said they experienced rattling from the enclosures. But, one guy said --"Excellent
by Ernest Buckley from NYC, December 2005

These phones are not cheap but if you need a seriously good quality construction and sound, the 990s are excellent. I`ve been using them for about 4 years now and have found them to give me the best mixes and thats comparing them to the AKG 270s, the Sony 7506s and the Sennheiser HD 280s."

So now this just makes me more confused. Are they better than AKG's, for me, I will spend money for good cans, I just wanna pick the most ideal pair to get my mixes translating to different systems.


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-04-2009 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
i use 701's, amazing


Are the mixes translating well to other systems? Will what I mix on these sound good on another system if it sounds good on these?


Posted by Ry Thomas on Feb-04-2009 23:53:

They do for me, very little to do when i transfer to monitors


Posted by EgosXII on Feb-05-2009 00:13:

hey mate, if you do a search for headphones instead of monitors i started a thread about it a while ago...

check out this article on mixing on headphones, and accounting for the discrepancy between mixing on headphones/mixing on monitors

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan...gheadphones.htm

I ended up getting the k 240 mk iis after i started a different thread asking what headphones to get

i use them for an entire track with no worries, then chuck them onto some speakers and it's usually a case of minor tweaking, like upping reverb, and sometimes the bass a little... usually translates really well, and once you learn the areas you need to boost you can fix it up no worries (like no i just automatically add a little more reverb than sounds natural through the headphones cause i know it needs it through monitors)


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-05-2009 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
So when you guys mix on the 240's do your mixes translate to other systems well? Cause see, my problem isn't getting the mix right, cause I do get it right in my headphones, almost perfectly the way I want it, its just that it doesn't ever translate to other systems, which is why I want to try a new pair of cans.

No mix done entirely on any cans will ever translate well to other systems. You should spend at least half your time working on monitors with decent bass response or even a hi-fi setup with a sub.

Some will get you closer than others - AKG 240 or newer/better is usually a safe bet - but you still don't want to do your whole mix on them.


Posted by Beyer on Feb-05-2009 19:18:

I haven�t been able to reference anything I�ve mixed with them, but I can say they are
VERY revealing. And incredibly neutral! At least the most neutral cans I�ve ever heard.
Not that I�ve heard so many. They might need some play time to fully "open up,
and make you used to their bass response. If you got the cash, I�d say go for it. But
the best would be to audition several different brands first. But all I can say I love them.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Feb-05-2009 20:11:

i agree with breaking them in so to speak


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-06-2009 00:05:

I just ordered the K 701's, they should be here by tuesday

Can't wait


Posted by thecYrus on Feb-07-2009 20:46:

btw the current model is the 702 which replaced the 701.

i'll probably will add this as a second headphone to my current sennheiser HD 595. i heard a lot of good things about the 70X


Posted by Ry Thomas on Feb-07-2009 21:03:

Has anyone had any experience with any other fairly decent semi/full open back cans? Wouldn't mind a second set


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-07-2009 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
btw the current model is the 702 which replaced the 701.

i'll probably will add this as a second headphone to my current sennheiser HD 595. i heard a lot of good things about the 70X



I ordered from Sweetwater http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K701/

and they don't even show a 702.


Posted by EgosXII on Feb-08-2009 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
I ordered from Sweetwater http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K701/

and they don't even show a 702.


they're the replacement: they're the same, but cost more..

if you got the 701s nothing to worry about dude, except saving some cash


Posted by Lucidity on Feb-08-2009 07:46:

Thx, but, question-- what is the difference? Am I losing out on sound quality or something?


Posted by thecYrus on Feb-08-2009 09:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
Thx, but, question-- what is the difference? Am I losing out on sound quality or something?


well, usually newer models should be an improvement in sound qualit<. but i guess it is not that much of a difference. akg itself lists only the 702 (http://www.akg.com/site/powerslave,...anguage,DE.html)


Posted by EgosXII on Feb-08-2009 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
they're the same, but cost more..

if you got the 701s nothing to worry about dude, except saving some cash


quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
Thx, but, question-- what is the difference? Am I losing out on sound quality or something?




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