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Posted by kdp feat. Lello on Feb-09-2009 12:23:

Mix / Remix

Hi there. Maybe someone already talked abut it, but my search had no results...
what's the difference between a mix and a remix?
In some releases there's the original version and the other versions are called sometimes mix and sometimes remix. Does anybody know why?
thank you in advance


Posted by Prototrance on Feb-09-2009 13:51:

Been discussed on here before. Many arguments, like usual.

Simple answer, there is no difference if it relates to a mix or remix done by another artist other than the original producer. Its just their choice what to call it. Typically I find 'mix' is used instead of remix if that remix has been given an extended title. i.e. Ferry corstens blah blah mix

A 'mix' on its own can relate to different arrangements of a track done by the original producer. I.E. Trance artist - Trance tune (original mix). Trance artist - Trance tune (club mix)

But...... the original artist may 'remix' their own tune if it involves more than a simple tweak of the arrangement as discussed above. I.E. Trance artist - Trance tune (Progressive remix).

But someone will be along soon to tell me I'm wrong. Probably Mr Mystery, who will use some derogatory comment. Grim reaper who will be right and not insult me or System-J who will use big words.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-09-2009 14:03:

To me, theres an original set of mixes done, and then anything subsequent to that is a remix. Whether it be done by the original artist or otherwise.

But I think they usually go with whatever sounds better, and theres no real difference.


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-09-2009 14:05:

I think that a "mix" constitutes a slight or small (re-)arrangement of the track usually done by the original artist, whereas a re-mix usually refers to bigger re-arrangements usually made by different artists (but can also be performed by original artist if the changes are substantial and made on a different date/time than the original release date). I think that what it matters most though is the degree of change, not the person (original or other artist) doing it and because "the degree of change" is relative for any person (including artists themselves!), you get the variability in what something constitutes a "mix" or a "remix".


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-09-2009 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
I think that a "mix" constitutes a slight or small (re-)arrangement of the track usually done by the original artist, whereas a re-mix usually refers to bigger re-arrangements usually made by different artists (but can also be performed by original artist if the changes are substantial and made on a different date/time than the original release date). I think that what it matters most though is the degree of change, not the person (original or other artist) doing it and because "the degree of change" is relative for any person (including artists themselves!), you get the variability in what something constitutes a "mix" or a "remix".

Are you serious?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-09-2009 17:48:

The only difference is the spelling. Really. The two terms are interchangable and which is used is down entirely to the personal preference of the artist in question.


Posted by Adam420 on Feb-09-2009 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
To me, theres an original set of mixes done, and then anything subsequent to that is a remix. Whether it be done by the original artist or otherwise.

But I think they usually go with whatever sounds better, and theres no real difference.


Safest bet as far as I'm concerned, though Protrance makes some good points (such as using "Mix" within a very long name).


Posted by adi_hanson on Feb-09-2009 20:09:

Just take the term as interchangable.

Tiesto - 10 seconds before sunrise(original mix)
Tiesto - 10 seconds before sunrise (tiesto's my god is it morning already remix)

Tiesto - 10 seconds before sunrise (yoji biomehanika's mentalist mix)
Tiesto - 10 seconds before sunrise (Dj joe bloggs remix)


Posted by creon444 on Feb-09-2009 20:14:

Nah, I would think that "remix" at least implies the existence of an original/different mix. Everything else is up to the artist himself/herself/itself.


Posted by Trance-M on Feb-09-2009 20:46:

Wenn I just look at these two releases of my friend Lisaya (Soulcry) it is very clear:

The ones Lisaya made are called mix and the versions others made are called remix.

http://www.djshop.de/go/mp3~11~Lisa...e+Heitzer~.html

The Strongest Emotion (Radio Mix)
The Strongest Emotion (Extended Mix)
The Strongest Emotion (Re-Flected Remix Edit)
The Strongest Emotion (Re-Flected Remix)
The Strongest Emotion (Tom Mountain goes Melodyparc Remix Edit)
The Strongest Emotion (Tom Mountain goes Melodyparc Remix)

http://www.djshop.de/index.php?seit...20Staps¶m2=

Dying To Live (Radio Mix)
Dying To Live (Extended Mix)
Dying To Live (Alternative Radio Mix)
Dying To Live (Alternative Mix)
Dying To Live (DJ Sakin vs. Wittendoerfer Remix Edit)
Dying To Live (DJ Sakin vs. Wittendoerfer Remix)
Dying To Live (Re-flected Remix Edit)
Dying To Live (Re-flected Remix)
Dying To Live (Acoustic Version)

And it is also a remix when Lisaya makes it for someone else like:

Andy Hawk Meets DJ Space Raven Vs. Soulcry - Devotion (Space Raven Vs. Petersen & Lisaya Remix)

Alex Bartlett - Touch The Sun (Lisaya vs. Petersen Remix)

Andy Guess - Always With Me (Lisaya vs Petersen Remix)

Mario Lopez - You Came (Lisaya vs. Petersen Remix)


I happen to know Re-flected are some guys of Groningen (NL) who did these remixes. Sorry for the spam...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-09-2009 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by creon444
Nah, I would think that "remix" at least implies the existence of an original/different mix. Everything else is up to the artist himself/herself/itself.


I've even seen original versions entitled "Original Remix" and I've seen remixes of tracks with no original, only different Mixes. I would agree though, that "Remix" generally implies a different version from the original, where as Mix just implies a version.


Posted by denys envy on Feb-09-2009 21:17:

I've always thought that a Mix is a re-arrangement of, mostly, original parts of the original track.

where as a remix samples something original, but generally is something completely different.

i have no idea, i'd agree with above posters and say the terms can be used interchangeably.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-09-2009 21:39:

I have Remixes that are almost identical to the original, and I have Mixes that are hardly recognisable compared to the original.

I probably have an example that can disprove any rule people try and apply to these terms. I think the real point is: it doesn't matter. There is no rule, there are merely names.


Posted by Sykonee on Feb-09-2009 22:00:

The only pattern I've ever noticed is a 'mix' is typically done by the original producer(s), and a 'remix' is done by an outside producer. Certainly not the rule, but more often than not I've seen this to be the case.


Posted by creon444 on Feb-09-2009 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've even seen original versions entitled "Original Remix" and I've seen remixes of tracks with no original, only different Mixes.


To me personally, that would imply that the original mix was never released for one reason or another.

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Sorry for the spam...


Yeah nice plug for your friend's shit, you dolt.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-10-2009 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by creon444
To me personally, that would imply that the original mix was never released for one reason or another.


Quite possibly, although I've never heard of any such unreleased original, and the track in question came out on an EP first with no tag at all and then as a single with this tag, presumably to seperate it from the other mixes that were made.


Posted by kliq on Feb-10-2009 14:08:

while we're on the topic, wtf are re-spray's, re-rub's and re-pimps?

come on people... they are ALL just names given to additional production and re-arrangement added to an existing track...


Posted by Trance-M on Feb-10-2009 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
The only pattern I've ever noticed is a 'mix' is typically done by the original producer(s), and a 'remix' is done by an outside producer. Certainly not the rule, but more often than not I've seen this to be the case.


I agree, I prefer some logic in that, however that's up to the producers, always has been:
Even early 90's tracks show 'mix' by outside producers too, like:

Jam&Spoon - Stella (1992)

1 Stella (Original Mix)
2 Stella (Barracuda Mix)
Remix - Barracuda
3 Stella (Electro Mix)
Remix - Moby


And even 'Remix' by the same producer:

Jam & Spoon Feat. Plavka - Right In The Night (Fall In Love With Music) (Remixes) (1993)

1 Right In The Night (Fall In Love With Music) (Jam & Spoon Remix)
Remix - Jam & Spoon
2 Right In The Night (Fall In Love With Music) (Microbots Remix)
Mixed By - J�rg Dewald
Remix - Microbots
Remix [Credited To] - Thorsten Adler , Dj Tom*
3 Follow Me Remix (Arpeggiators Tripomatic Fairytales Mix)
Mixed By - J�rg Dewald
Remix - Arpeggiators
Remix [Credited To] - J�rg Dewald , Thomas Wedel , Thorsten Adler
Vocals [Additional] - Maiki
4 Right In The Night (Fall In Love With Music) (DJ Kid Paul Mix)
Remix - Kid Paul


Posted by kdp feat. Lello on Feb-12-2009 10:35:

Thank you all guys, many different answers but precious informations.

Peace


Posted by Subtle on Feb-12-2009 10:56:

Mix and Remix means the exact same thing.

Usually you`ll see mix being used with prefixes like:
Tiesto`s In Search Of Sunrise Mix
Discodroids - Interspace (Original Tremolo Mix)

And remix being used when there are no prefixes
Tiesto Remix

The term Original Mix is originally used when there are more mixes of the same track on the release
Subtle By Design - Sirius (Original Mix)
Subtle By Design - Sirius (Tiesto Remix)

Its really not worth putting more thought into this, you`ll see various combinations of Mix, Remix.. Remake, whatever the guy making it decides to call it.
They mean the same thing, the source files of a track, mixed again.

The term mix seems to be more frequently used in older pre 2000 tracks.
Remix seems to be the standard nowadays.



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