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Posted by jchung52 on Feb-09-2009 15:04:

Gender and the House Music Scene

Here's a little write up my friend georgiana wrote on her facebook and thought id share it here.

"For those of you who know me well, know that I am a feminist. For those of you that don�t, well now you know. Before you read any further, please realize that all of the things that the media and popular culture has told you about feminism are FALSE. The stereotypes, the malicious name-calling, all the hatred that the (religious) right could muster up about feminists, is all garbage. Feminism (in short) means striving for the equality of the two sexes (it even acts as an umbrella for justice for all, gay, bi, transgender etc). Feminism is not lesbian, unshaven women who hate men! (though there are lesbians who are feminists It is not an ideology meant to condemn men for injustices that happened in the past. It is simply the wish to make women and men equal. In North America� and all over the world!


Before I recount some of my experiences in the house music scene, I would like to point out a few aspects that feminism deals with. This will help you understand this post. In North America especially, men and women are social and gender constructs. This means that men and women ascribe to different ways of living, different styles, different terminology, even different ways of dealing with things. The social constructs are just that: social constructs! The differences between men and women (except for physical differences) are all SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTED. Meaning our society decides for us what is �feminine� and what is �masculine.� Our media is a huge part of perpetuating these STRICT gender constructs. I�ll give you a few examples.


These constructs start at an early age: pink toys for girls, blue toys for boys; dolls and baking sets for girls, trucks and tools for boys*. Our society is constantly telling little girls and boys what is appropriate behavior (boys don't BIOLOGICALLY like blue and girls don't BIOLOGICALLY like pink!) Through toys, shows, parenting books, magazines, we are constantly telling children how to act (nice and �lady-like� for girls, adventurous and aggressive for boys). Even in adulthood, we tell women that they must be skinny, they must �please your man in 10 ways!� while men are told how to succeed, how to get promoted, and �how to get her in bed faster!� Overwhelmingly, research points out that these gender constructs are destructive. When we fail to fit neatly into our gender box (check: male or female), society punishes us. When a man acts feminine, he is called gay, or a ****** (which is seen as weak? like a woman? hmmm.. see my point?) You have no idea how many of my friends believe themselves to be progressive yet still use such derogatory terms when putting each other down. When women have athletic bodies, they are somehow seen as less attractive. Or when women wear their hair short, and appear more �masculine,� society calls them �butch.�


We are constantly working within these gender constructs. When we go out, when we hang out with our friends, the language we use molds our culture. Some of us (feminists and like-minded people) try to break the gender molds society has locked upon us. We are worthy whether we are straight, gay, bi-sexual, transgender, white, black, latino, asian, skinny, fat, male, or female. Or all of those combined! (hmm that would be an interesting person


Now, keeping ALL of that in mind (did you learn something new?) I would like to recount some of my experiences. In the past year and a half that I have been in the house music scene, I have attended many great events and met so many incredible, wonderful people (and listened to some great music while I was at it!) In the house music scene, the MUSIC is all that it�s about. I have been to numerous concerts, rock music, metal, experimental, alternative (I had an emo stage :P), chill music I guess you could call it (O.A.R and the like), and of course bars where they play top 40 (over and over and over and over and over again.. bleeeh) yet I have not experienced the kind of atmosphere that I encountered at electronic music events. The scene is UNPARALLELD! I will explain why...


Top 40 bars and the like (where alcohol pours like water) for me, have a tension that I have not come across at electronic music events. I feel like I am constantly objectified, I am constantly judged, constantly GLADRED at by (even some 50 year old) men who attempt to buy me drinks in hopes of �hooking up.� Basically, every time I step into one of those places (even dressed modestly!) I am hounded and I am sure most women my age experience this. Even women are hostile to each other in bars. On the other hand, when I step into an electronic music bar/club/festival/event of ANY KIND, I feel.. at home. Not once have I been bothered and started at like a piece of meat. Not once have I experienced any kind of discomfort, trying to get out of conversations with uninteresting people, yelling at me �ONE MORE DRINK!� (I can see Dane Cook saying that). Not once, have I thought to myself �Wow get me outta here, I can�t believe people have fun in this place.� Top 40 bars don�t facilitate the kind of bonding, the kind of (MUSIC! HA!) community (kind of cheesy) type feeling I get at house music events. Period.


When I walk into a house music bar/club or event of any kind, I instantly make friends. This has never failed me, not even once. I instantly feel the energy coming from every single person stomping their feet to the same beat. I instantly connect with people all of backgrounds, of all ethnicities, and of all sexual orientations. At a house music event, the fact that I am a female does not even matter. There are NO SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS. There is no way you �should� behave, all those silly social expectations fly out of the window. I don�t feel objectified. House music.. is not sexist (unlike lil wayne or T payne or whatever).


Maybe this is only my experience, and maybe other women have felt differently in different situations. This has been my experience and it has been unlike any other. The contrast of the people, the music, the ATMOSPHERE between electronic music events and ALL other events is like night and day. Whether I am at an electronic music event in Detroit, Windsor, Toronto, Miami or even New York, the music is ALL THAT MATTERS (and of course friends

I remember the time I came upon this realization. I was at Dance to the Boat in Toronto this past August. One of my favorite DJ groups, YM were on the decks spinning Sis � Standing, and I remember looking around thinking �This boat can�t dock, this is one of the best parties of my life!� I swear the boat was rocking to the beat! (or maybe it was all in my mind ;P) I felt the exact same way at Ultra Music Festival in Miami last March, surrounded by thousands of people all enjoying each other�s company, all enjoying the beat. It didn�t matter if you were male, female, white, black, purple, or even alien. I felt this community-type feeling at DEMF this past May downtown Detroit. And the place I felt it most at�� was Comfort Zone. Who would believe me if I told them I felt in my element and completely comfortable at Comfort Zone! The atmosphere� is unparalleled to any other music/social event I have ever attended."


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Feb-09-2009 15:13:

I couldn't make it past the Feminist part of the post.


Posted by kaniz on Feb-09-2009 15:22:

*disclaimer of 'yes, there are exceptions' .. but generally speaking, to sum-up her post (which I agree with)

- Most normal bars/top-40 type places are meat-markets. People generally go in hopes of picking up / being picked up. The music is not the focus of the going out, 'people' is the focus of going out.

- Most EDM events - you have people going out for the music, not to cruise for pickups.

For many people, going to an EDM event is the equivalent of going to a concert. You're venturing out to see a specific artist, your paying money to see that artist, and you want to enjoy that artist - and your focus is on the dancing/music.

And as such, since the focus of going out to an EDM event is different than that of a Top-40 club - the way people interact are different (ie: less guys trying to pick up girls). Still happens, but its generally not the focal point of going out.


Posted by petro on Feb-09-2009 15:28:

A little over-embellished, no?




::edit::

I'm starting to think she's a york student lol


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Feb-09-2009 15:30:

so to sum of the relevant parts

1. Top 40 clubs are drinking and meat market bars

2. EDM events are not

and this is news to who?

I didn't see any reason to include all the feminist garbage prior to talking about her House Music Adventures....unless we are missing something from the facebook page.


Posted by petro on Feb-09-2009 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced

I didn't see any reason to include all the feminist garbage prior to talking about her House Music Adventures....


quote:
Originally posted by petro

I'm starting to think she's a york student lol


Posted by Dior Homme on Feb-09-2009 15:46:

mmmmm boring!


Posted by Sly_Guy on Feb-09-2009 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I couldn't make it past the Feminist part of the post.


hahaha


Posted by Shaya007 on Feb-09-2009 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
so to sum of the relevant parts


2. EDM events are not



no they're orgies instead


Posted by smuncky on Feb-09-2009 16:17:

pics or stfu.


Posted by Shaya007 on Feb-09-2009 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
pics or stfu.


Pics + Stories..


gimme 10 years;


lol!


Posted by barbina on Feb-09-2009 16:39:

I agree with Geo 100% and I love that she wrote this


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Feb-09-2009 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Shaya007
no they're orgies instead


really....shit....I must be going to the wrong parties then.


Posted by Skipper on Feb-09-2009 17:16:

I agree that the electronic scene is more accepting than the top 40 toronto bottle service crowd but it is not without its downfalls either.

She comes across as someone who just got their first lightshow or backrub. Give her time!


Posted by FunkyCrew on Feb-09-2009 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I didn't see any reason to include all the feminist garbage prior to talking about her House Music Adventures....unless we are missing something from the facebook page.


+1
that was completely random and has nothing to do with what she's trying to say about going out to EDM events


Posted by barbina on Feb-09-2009 17:29:

Geo wrote the article for her friends .. so some of the stuff ie. the feminism is just something she was mentioning..

Justin not sure why you put this on here?

And Georgiana isn't new to partying at all haha


Posted by chinamon on Feb-09-2009 17:36:

here is my reply:
go fuck yourself!


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Feb-09-2009 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina

And Georgiana isn't new to partying at all haha


If she's only been in the "house" scene for a year and a half....as she stated....then yes...she is new to partying....give it another 2-3 years then I would say she isn't new to partying.


Posted by Sly_Guy on Feb-09-2009 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
She comes across as someone who just got their first lightshow or backrub. Give her time!


lolx2


Posted by TheVrk on Feb-09-2009 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I couldn't make it past the Feminist part of the post.

Heh me either


Posted by activate on Feb-09-2009 18:19:

what a dyke


Posted by Special K on Feb-09-2009 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
And Georgiana isn't new to partying at all haha


well if the biggest n00b on TA says this girl is not a n00b then surely she isnt


Posted by Special K on Feb-09-2009 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by activate
what a dyke


/

yenta


Posted by LKD on Feb-09-2009 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
here is my reply:
go fuck yourself!


quote:
Originally posted by Special K
well if the biggest n00b on TA says this girl is not a n00b then surely she isnt


Posted by infinity HiGH on Feb-09-2009 18:41:

Comfort Zone? What the fuck??

To sum up:
"The more high people are, the less attitude they have."

Doesn't take a feminist to figure that one out.


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