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Pacha NYC cut DJ fees in face of credit crunch

Source: http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/int...f_credit_crunch

Pacha�s New York chief Eddie Dean chatted to Skrufff recently about the impact of the credit crunch and revealed that the Manhattan superclub is increasingly cutting DJ fees to balance the books. �DJ fees are really coming under scrutiny,� Eddie confirmed. �Certain DJs that have a proven track record can still demand a good price but other DJs either have to come down or you have to pass because you just can�t afford to pay them based on their history. In the past you could say, �well, we can pay the extra 5k (US$5,000) because we know we will be packed out�. Now, that isn�t always the case. You have to be very cautious, if you misjudge a DJ�s value you could get hurt. In New York City the weather is a factor too,� Eddie continued. �We have had seven weekends in a row where it has been raining, snowing or brutally cold. That�s made a difference,� he said.

However he was much more relaxed about the recent opening of Ministry Of Sound�s first ever club in New York following bullishly competitive comments from Ministry boss Mark Baker in a recent interview. Speaking to Blackbook�s Steven Lewis (a legendary New York promoter who previously worked for clubs including Limelight and Danceteria), Baker declared �we do not have a dance floor, and that makes a huge difference. It�s more about table service, sitting, more about entertainment, production, aerialists, and performers�, prompting much amusement from Eddie. �I�m not sure of the last time Mark Baker was here but we actually have tables and aerialists too,� he chuckled. �Though admittedly we do have a dance floor.�

He also conceded that bottle service, the practise popular with rich bankers who�d pay thousands of dollars for bottles of spirits and private tables, �certainly isn�t what it used to be�. �Up until quite recently a good client would come in every week, now you may see them two times a month. Some people will still come but no longer hire a table. Either way it has had an effect on all clubs in New York,� he said. �Our VIPs come from all over, we get a lot of Euros and South Americans and they have all been hit with the economic downturn as well and aren�t traveling so much. We still attract a lot of hedge fund VIPs as well, let�s just say they aren�t spending like they used too,� he added.

�Is recession good for nightlife? Only time will tell,� he mused. �A place like Pacha has to work very hard to overcome the economic downturn and that�s what we�re doing, we�re working our butts off because people have high expectations when they come here. We have to make sure they have an amazing experience,� he said. �And as far as Ministry Of Sound opening in New York is concerned, I think it is good for the overall dance scene. It will be interesting to see if their style will translate here,� he added.

I know it's a long-shot, but maybe this will force clubs to really push their staff to treat clubbers a bit better instead of the usual nonsense most of you as well as I have witnessed in the past couple years in NYC. It goes a long way if a staff member goes an extra step at a venue for you when you are paying a decent amount to see a DJ, and maybe even draw larger numbers after a while.

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Originally posted by DJslantzz I know it's a long-shot, but maybe this will force clubs to really push their staff to treat clubbers a bit better instead of the usual nonsense most of you as well as I have witnessed in the past couple years in NYC. It goes a long way if a staff member goes an extra step at a venue for you when you are paying a decent amount to see a DJ, and maybe even draw larger numbers after a while.

Or, if DJ's/agents start reducing their expected payouts enough so that someone that used to cost $25-30 in entrance fees now costs $10-15. It takes a bit of an ego check for the artist, but would better allow the music to thrive.

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Originally posted by Frequency Frank Or, if DJ's/agents start reducing their expected payouts enough so that someone that used to cost $25-30 in entrance fees now costs $10-15. It takes a bit of an ego check for the artist, but would better allow the music to thrive.

Frank, I would still pay your $20K DJ fee if I was a promoter.

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Originally posted by DJslantzz Frank, I would still pay your $20 DJ fee if I was a promoter.

Fixed for accuracy

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Originally posted by Frequency Frank Or, if DJ's/agents start reducing their expected payouts enough so that someone that used to cost $25-30 in entrance fees now costs $10-15. It takes a bit of an ego check for the artist, but would better allow the music to thrive.

Well said

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Originally posted by Frequency Frank Or, if DJ's/agents start reducing their expected payouts enough so that someone that used to cost $25-30 in entrance fees now costs $10-15. It takes a bit of an ego check for the artist, but would better allow the music to thrive.

Or more locals just start becoming headliners...eh Frank???????

Hey one could always dream...

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Originally posted by DJslantzz Or more locals just start becoming headliners...eh Frank??????? Hey one could always dream...

I'm not doubting it one bit . NYC has been a breading ground for the moment of local dj's becoming headliner's not only in NYC but around the world. Sean Tyas, Filo & Peri, Serge Devant, Victor Calderone, Jonathan Peters, Jason Jollins, DJ Eco, Tom Colontonio, and the list just keeps going on! Looking forward to see more of Frank's choon's

As for Ministry of Sound...
I was there on Friday for Roger Sanchez - there was a $30 cover (even though i showed up at 11:15pm for the comp before 12 list) and a gin & tonic costed me $19.50 plus tip.
The comp thing i expected, first month of every club is never as smooth as it can be to say the least.
The place is dumb IMO, its circular couches taking up an entire airplane hangar. I was only able to dance in the bar area.

On a good note, Roger absolutely demolished the place.

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Originally posted by jurel As for Ministry of Sound... I was there on Friday for Roger Sanchez - there was a $30 cover (even though i showed up at 11:15pm for the comp before 12 list) and a gin & tonic costed me $19.50 plus tip. The comp thing i expected, first month of every club is never as smooth as it can be to say the least. The place is dumb IMO, its circular couches taking up an entire airplane hangar. I was only able to dance in the bar area. On a good note, Roger absolutely demolished the place.

What the fkity fk???19.50 for one drink??????????
Where is the place located? And most importantly, did the place fill?

every dj at the moment should lower their booking fee.

period.


then, smaller promoters can book these dj's and I wont have to bother stepping foot @ pacha .

but seriously.. they should.

its the jobs of the promters not the deejays to fill the clubs. the deejays need to get paid for their services are the nightclubs getting lazy and using an excuse to not pay now ?

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Originally posted by FastFashion What the fkity fk???19.50 for one drink?????????? Where is the place located? And most importantly, did the place fill?

Yup. It's on 28th Street btwn 10th & 11th- the old crobar location.

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Originally posted by swayne21 its the jobs of the promters not the deejays to fill the clubs. the deejays need to get paid for their services are the nightclubs getting lazy and using an excuse to not pay now ?

Your jaw would drop if you saw what some of these ******s are charging. I see Pacha's point of view. So many of these big-headed DJs (and worse-off, their agents) think they're worth 10, 20, 30 thousand dollars, whereas in the grand scheme of things many DJs have become irrelevant to not only New York, but the scene in general. No need to shell out those kinda dollars anymore for people who over the years have lost their fame (and the amount of people that would pay 30$+ to see them).

Eco, who are you talkin about exactly?

Drinks do not cost $19.50 at Mansion

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Originally posted by Leniu Eco, who are you talkin about exactly?

It's more of a generalization, but some of these DJs' fees out there are astronomical, especially the older guys who've been to the top of their game and are finding it hard to lower their price (out of pride or w.e.)... I guess it's clubland's version of laying off, which makes sense in a way.

Calderone, JP, Boris, DT all pull in at least 5 figures a night to spin at pacha

im friendly with the owners son at webster hall, and he told me that when tiesto spun there about a year ago, he got 80,000 a night on wed and thurs and then 140,000 on friday. fucken nuts...absolutely nuts. at that price...i would have an ego too

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Originally posted by DJslantzz I know it's a long-shot, but maybe this will force clubs to really push their staff to treat clubbers a bit better instead of the usual nonsense most of you as well as I have witnessed in the past couple years in NYC. It goes a long way if a staff member goes an extra step at a venue for you when you are paying a decent amount to see a DJ, and maybe even draw larger numbers after a while.

I completely agree with this. Im not a big fan of Pacha unless someone big is performing there. Had the opportunity to be there cuz a friend wanted to celebrate his birthday there this past Saturday and well, it was very disappointing. Just in the last year Ive seen the attitude change by some of the staff at Pacha. I mean, I know they got Best US Club somewhere but come on. In the end, you want people to come back to the club in the future. Whoever was in there this past Saturday wasnt worth the cover WTF $40? not to mention the $5 tap water, but thats everywhere, of course.

hey for now, give me transportation costs and a few drinks and i'll play the fuck anywhere

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Your jaw would drop if you saw what some of these ******s are charging. I see Pacha's point of view. So many of these big-headed DJs (and worse-off, their agents) think they're worth 10, 20, 30 thousand dollars, whereas in the grand scheme of things many DJs have become irrelevant to not only New York, but the scene in general. No need to shell out those kinda dollars anymore for people who over the years have lost their fame (and the amount of people that would pay 30$+ to see them).

well then if the deejays are over charging with how the econamy is then they shouldn't pay. the deejays should understand people dont have money to spend the high cover charges and then the club wont be able to pay over 10,000.

btw tiesto for 140,000 how can a club even make money on that??????!!!!!!

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Originally posted by jurel and a gin & tonic costed me $19.50 plus tip.

did u even get a hand job let alone have the bartender nibble on your ear with that price for one drink...hold scmoley
glad to hear the s man ripped it tho

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Originally posted by swayne21 btw tiesto for 140,000 how can a club even make money on that??????!!!!!!

that seems like an awful lot, even for Tiesto.

but think about how many people probably went to that show...a few thousand. Ticket prices were like $60 if not more I'm sure. Factor in the people who paid for VIP...the door take is easily in the hundreds of thousands.

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Originally posted by Scoops JP, pull in at least figures a night to spin at pacha

yea but he also pulls in these douche bag skum

whats with the midget?

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