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Posted by DJ Cinos on Feb-14-2009 14:11:

The dullness of these days...

I haven't found any new challenging, fun-to-listen-to electronic release in the past forever, so instead I've been going back instead, (re-)discovering classics like Prodigy's Experience and various EyeQ releases and such. Even the today-monotonous Tiesto used to have a lot more variation in his stuff than today. I mean, compare In My Memory with all the unique themes to the cookie-cutter Elements of Life.

Generally, where has all the inspiration gone? Are there any artists left who actually dare to make their own sound or at least deviate from the norm? Nobody would make an album like Experience today - or even extremely self-indulgent trance like System F, which at least was fun even if not very engaging.


Posted by Unable on Feb-14-2009 14:19:

Welcome to the Internet.


Posted by DJ Cinos on Feb-14-2009 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Unable
Welcome to the Internet.


How on earth is the internet related to trance being boring now

you're way out of your league here


Posted by sljiva on Feb-14-2009 14:29:

Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Nobody would make an album like Experience today - or even extremely self-indulgent trance like System F, which at least was fun even if not very engaging.


I've heard Liam saying that Invaders Must Die will sound like Experience and their early rave stuff. Although judging by two singles released already I'd say it's gonna sound more like shit than like early awesomeness. So here you go, something to expect to...


Posted by DJ Cinos on Feb-14-2009 14:33:

Re: Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
I've heard Liam saying that Invaders Must Die will sound like Experience and their early rave stuff. Although judging by two singles released already I'd say it's gonna sound more like shit than like early awesomeness. So here you go, something to expect to...


Oh, IMD is a breath of fresh air alright, but it's one of the rare ones. It's a little more like Jilted if you ask me and courageously drops the whole pop appeal they took on with AONO.

Either it's engineered to appeal to the old fans or it's actual passionate music; the illusion's so well done I can't tell.

But it's just one album in this marshland of triteness!


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-14-2009 14:47:

the new prodigy tracks are better than everything after fat of the land and also better than 50% of fat of the land but its nothing like music for the jilted generation. i dont think its possible to make an album even close to the quality of jilted generation, ever. experience was really good to but unfortunately shit soundquality compared to todays standards. i just hope the new album isnt overcompressed and distorted to hell (i bet it is though).


Posted by sljiva on Feb-14-2009 14:56:

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Either it's engineered to appeal to the old fans or it's actual passionate music; the illusion's so well done I can't tell.


I'd say it's former, after the decade of shit Liam finally realized that going back to roots it the only way to go (like Metallica). Trying to develope a new sound and move further away from the roots would probably sound even worse than AONO shit. I have some serious doubts about this album, I'd like it to be good, but I'm affraid I'm gonna be left disappointed.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
But it's just one album in this marshland of triteness!


Just like Experience (or MFTJG) was just one album in marshland of triteness back then. We had a similar discussion in some thread not too long ago, the bottom line is it's not too smart to compare the state of music today with state of music in the 90's for example.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-14-2009 15:12:

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quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
Just like Experience (or MFTJG) was just one album in marshland of triteness back then. We had a similar discussion in some thread not too long ago, the bottom line is it's not too smart to compare the state of music today with state of music in the 90's for example.

Yeah, the "cheap bashing on mainstream trance" thread: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=507230

Anyway I agree. There's so much more electronic music being produced today, probably thousands or tens of thousands of times as much. But the harsh reality is that even though massive amounts of tracks are being churned out, great musicians are still as rare as they ever were back in the "old days," and it's sometimes tough to find them among the sea of crap...


Posted by Faj27 on Feb-14-2009 18:25:

Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
I haven't found any new challenging, fun-to-listen-to electronic release in the past forever, so instead I've been going back instead, (re-)discovering classics like Prodigy's Experience and various EyeQ releases and such. Even the today-monotonous Tiesto used to have a lot more variation in his stuff than today. I mean, compare In My Memory with all the unique themes to the cookie-cutter Elements of Life.

Generally, where has all the inspiration gone? Are there any artists left who actually dare to make their own sound or at least deviate from the norm? Nobody would make an album like Experience today - or even extremely self-indulgent trance like System F, which at least was fun even if not very engaging.


i'm sorry, but i completely disagree with you on this. there's loads of fresh, inspiring young artists out there releasing quality music. you'll have to look past tiesto and the prodigy to find them.


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-14-2009 19:07:

Re: Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
i'm sorry, but i completely disagree with you on this. there's loads of fresh, inspiring young artists out there releasing quality music. you'll have to look past tiesto and the prodigy to find them.




Any recommendations?


Posted by nefardec on Feb-14-2009 19:35:

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quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Any recommendations?


armin van buuren


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-14-2009 19:38:

I hope you're aware that Experience was derided at the time as an over-commercial watering-down of rave music filled with crap variations on Charly:

http://www.nekozine.co.uk/prodigy/i...magapology.html

Personally I think it's aged horribly and is massively over-rated. I only play Out Of Space and Hyperspeed from it. Experience Expanded added some good tracks but it's probably the most over-rated dance LP of its day.

As for the new album, I'll take it you haven't heard any new Pendulum, Qemists or nu-rave if you think it's a "breath of fresh air". Howlett is just cashing in now. Only Warrior Dance actually sounds like it's from 1992 as opposed to what 16 year old rock kids think 1992 sounded like.


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-14-2009 20:00:

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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
armin van buuren





Posted by DJ Cinos on Feb-14-2009 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I hope you're aware that Experience was derided at the time as an over-commercial watering-down of rave music filled with crap variations on Charly:

http://www.nekozine.co.uk/prodigy/i...magapology.html

Personally I think it's aged horribly and is massively over-rated. I only play Out Of Space and Hyperspeed from it. Experience Expanded added some good tracks but it's probably the most over-rated dance LP of its day.

As for the new album, I'll take it you haven't heard any new Pendulum, Qemists or nu-rave if you think it's a "breath of fresh air". Howlett is just cashing in now. Only Warrior Dance actually sounds like it's from 1992 as opposed to what 16 year old rock kids think 1992 sounded like.


It shares the similar Pendulum-ish rave style which they were hardly unique using to begin with; it's just so much better done and this level of quality hasn't been for so long that it IS indeed refreshing.

Personally I think Experience is much better for it's time than FotL.


Posted by creon444 on Feb-14-2009 20:29:

I injected three milligrammes of Armin van Buuren into my bloodstream today. It was uplifting.


Posted by enydo on Feb-14-2009 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by creon444
I injected three milligrammes of Armin van Buuren into my bloodstream today. It was uplifting.


PURE Armin??


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-14-2009 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
PURE Armin??




It can cause a deadly euphoric shock!


Posted by ponsshin on Feb-14-2009 23:39:

Re: Re: Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Any recommendations?


Hudson Mohawke, Kris Wadsworth, Nick Curly, Jin Choi, Alex Niggelman, Manuel de la Mare, Monojoke, Juno 6, Sei A just to name a very short list. They may not be all new to the scene but they're all good in their own way.


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-15-2009 00:00:

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quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
Hudson Mohawke, Kris Wadsworth, Nick Curly, Jin Choi, Alex Niggelman, Manuel de la Mare, Monojoke, Juno 6, Sei A just to name a very short list. They may not be all new to the scene but they're all good in their own way.



Hmm some of this stuff were okish, but no way that they are "fresh" and "inspiring". Instead, you get the usual deep/tech house of the last 10 years with a bit of Deadmau5-esque style . I mean some of the stuff are cool but they have no value out of the club context. Now ok, EThats what we were talking in that previous thread, compare every single artist yhou posted with 90s works like: Underworld-Secondtoughestintheinfants, Leftfield-Leftism or even some classic trance releases like the stuff in Eye-Q. Enormous artistic gap...



But maybe its just me getting old and growing-out of EDM


Posted by Teezdalien on Feb-15-2009 00:17:

Oh please not another one of these threads.


Posted by PETRAN on Feb-15-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Oh please not another one of these threads.



This is TA...



unleash the unicorns...!


Posted by DJ Cinos on Feb-15-2009 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Oh please not another one of these threads.


You haven't even seen two years of these threads yet, you don't get to complain.

I've been making them for almost six.


Posted by Nostalgic on Feb-15-2009 01:22:

The minimal hipsters fucked everything up.


Posted by sljiva on Feb-15-2009 01:29:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The dullness of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
But maybe its just me getting old and growing-out of EDM


No, it's you not wanting to accept the fact that new music doesn't make you feel the way old did (for some reason) and the fact that things naturally work that way. I mean my dad listens to only Beatles and Rolling Stones and says that all new music (especially electronic) is shit. While I wholeheartedly disagree with him, I know where he's coming from and understand that this modern music just can't replace all the memories and everything else he associated with that music of his youth.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-15-2009 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Nostalgic
The minimal hipsters fucked everything up.

LOL, nice custom title you have there.


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