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United Nations passes a gag order on insulting religions (aka free speech killer)
I am surprised I didnt notice this earlier - and the media is pretty quiet about it. I read news every day and I didnt catch this until I found it by accident trying to find an unrelated article.
Islam - 5. Freedom of speech - 0. (first one - retractions / apologies on prophet cartoons, previous one scored with charges against criticising of Islam)
A new chapter in the rise of Islamic fundamentalism is here. The decline of our culture and society as we know it has began. Religion, in particularly Islam, has scored a huge victory here. Makes me wonder why BBC News all of a sudden has stopped posting about women's rights in Muslim countries ...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-speech-killer/
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UN warns: Don't defame religions, especially Islam
On Inauguration Day, after it got the United Nations to pass a gag rule on insulting religions, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) told our new president in a New York Times ad that Muslims "have compelling strategic and moral reasons to cooperate and peacefully coexist with the United States in particular, and with the West in general."
Many Muslims here and elsewhere want that partnership; but some, jihadists in the name of Islam, disagree violently. In its address to our new president, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (which has permanent status at the United Nations) made no mention of its own strategic skills that resulted, on Dec. 18, in the passage by the U.N. General Assembly of a nonbinding resolution (with strong advice to its members) that condemns "defamation of religion," especially Islam.
In an 83 to 53 vote, with 42 abstentions, the U.N. General Assembly urged nations to provide "adequate protections" in their laws or constitutions against "acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from defamation of religions and incitement to religious hatred in general."
Only Islam and Muslims are specifically named in this resolution against religious defamation, sponsored by Uganda on behalf of the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference, and cosponsored by Belarus and Venezuela. Opponents included the United States, a majority of European countries, Japan and India.
Those in favor said they do not want to limit free speech but do intend to stop such expressions as the 2005 Danish cartoons disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad that ignited violent protests by Muslims around the world.
Among the opponents, including myself, of this U.N. move to have its members legislate, with penalties, against such very broadly designated "religious defamation" is Floyd Abrams, the nation's leading protector of the First Amendment in the Supreme Court and in his writings. In his Dec. 9 lecture on global communications, issues at the United Nations itself in New York, he cited a recent study by the European Center for Law and Justice finding "that laws based on the concept of 'defamation of religion' actually help to create a climate of violence."
"Violators of these laws, as applied in most Muslim countries, are subject to the death penalty," Abrams continued. He cited from the study a 22-year-old Hindu in Pakistan who "was beaten to death by co-workers at a factory for allegedly committing the crime of blasphemy, which is a crime punishable by death in the country." The three workers were "charged not with murder but with 'failure to inform the police that blasphemy was under way.' "
As Abrams has noted, the effect of the U.N. resolution "would be just as dangerous if this did not (originally) come from the Islamic states, but came from any other group of states representing or purporting to speak for any other religion."
Another of America's leading First Amendment lawyers, Marc Stern, co-executive director of the American Jewish Congress, makes a crucial point: If this approach to "defamation of religion" were to become a crime under international law (under the impetus of the U.N. resolution), "nations would be able to seek extradition and trial abroad of persons who make statements critical or offensive to one or all faiths anywhere in the world."
Already, for example, as Reuters reported last June, Jordan prosecutor Hassan Abdullat subpoenaed "11 Danes for drawing and reprinting" cartoons that offend Islam. The Danes were charged - in Jordan - with "threatening the national peace." Under Jordanian law, Reuters reported, "reproducing images of the Prophet Muhammad inside - or even outside - the country is illegal under the Jordanian Justice Act."
One of the Danes summoned to Jordan was Kurt Westergaard, who, for years, has been subject to death threats for his cartoon, among others, of the Prophet Muhammad wearing a turban in the shape of a bomb.
When the riots and deaths following those Danish cartoons were reported in American newspapers, none of the offending cartoons was published accompanying the stories in major dailies, except the Philadelphia Inquirer and the New York Sun. But I ran the story at the Village Voice, where I then had a column, with the cartoon of Prophet Muhammad wearing the bomb-shaped turban.
I was damned if I'd be intimidated for doing my job as a reporter. For a couple of weeks, I was more vigilant than usual walking the streets, but I'm still here. What most stays in my mind is that long before the Dec. 18, 2008, resolution on defamation of religions, so much of the American free press refused to run even one of the cartoons at the core of the story, and hardly anything about the U.N.'s Dec. 18 resolution.
Did they not want to offend certain readers? Were they afraid? If the U.N. resolution became international law, the First Amendment would still protect opponents here, but think of the bloody impact on "defamers" around the world.
it must suck to constantly see yourself as a victim. how do you become happy?
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| Originally posted by Q5echo it must suck to constantly see yourself as a victim. how do you become happy? |
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| U.N. General Assembly urged nations to provide "adequate protections" in their laws or constitutions against "acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from defamation of religions and incitement to religious hatred in general." |
It's interesting that the Washington Times doesn't even try to hide its bias anymore.
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium I dont look at myself as a victim. I am just not amused by a lot of crap out there. There are a lot of issues in this world, and they bother me, but I am not a victim of many of those - some of them dont affect me at all, but I am not ignorant - I refuse to sit and pretend the world is a perfect place. Look, where I live, most people of my age dont even know what Nepal is or who Sarkozy is. New generation of young people is very ignorant and too concerned about their TV culture and party life. I dont read fairy Harry Potter books and I dont watch Lord of the Ring shit - I look at the world for what it actually is. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov It's interesting that the Washington Times doesn't even try to hide its bias anymore. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium The decline of our culture and society as we know it has began. |
I died a little on the inside reading that.
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| I have a great idea of how to protect against such acts. After all, no acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion are likely to result from the defamation of religions no one surviving believes in... |
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| Originally posted by Lira Aw, man, so much for local constitutions! If the UN, with its unlimited power, urges our countries to provide "adequate protections" against "acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from defamation of religions and incitement to religious hatred in general", we're doomed, and freedom of speech will be no more! |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo hope youre not trying to imply Nat Hentoff is a right-wing nutjob. that would be hilarious. ...and it was an editorial btw. bias is customary |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Yeah, when some Islamic fundamentalists have a bounty on your head, and when you'll be sued or jailed for defamation of religion, you'll quickly realize how much freedom you have! |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Yeah, when some Islamic fundamentalists have a bounty on your head, and when you'll be sued or jailed for defamation of religion, you'll quickly realize how much freedom you have! |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Yeah, because I'm sure that bounties are totally covered by the UN policy on anti-defamation retribution freedom that they will force all sovereign countries to adapt at pain of giving up their guns. |
) so much. Sovereignty still plays an important role in the contemporary world and, in the end, this is not much more effective than the Pope telling everyone to stop fighting and ditch Astrology.
The UN is the biggest joke. If the UN could/would do their job the United States would feel the need to police the world. America could save billions a year doing thier f@cking job! 
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| Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS The UN is the biggest joke. If the UN could/would do their job the United States would feel the need to police the world. America could save billions a year doing thier f@cking job! |
I agree with the UN being a joke. Why the US contributes so much money to them is beyond me.
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| Originally posted by The17sss I agree with the UN being a joke. Why the US contributes so much money to them is beyond me. |
the UN is a bureaucratic tunnel organization for the most part....but its organizations along with NGO's that participate are key in getting world figures and statistics, and atleast bring awareness to problems that would otherwise go under the radar. Also their aid is very important to alot of people. Their peacekeepers are very helpful in maintaining buffer zones in places like Cyprus.
but it is not the police force by anymeans, that is for NATO.
and US pwns NATO, it even shares nukes with nukeless NATO countries to confirm that presence.
EDIT: as shown in recent events in Kyrgigistan sp?, Russia is making efforts to stand up to Nato, it will be interesting to see if there is a shift of balance in the policing aspect over the coming decades.
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov lol |
Why don't the UN work on stopping the US/Israel unilateralism?
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| Originally posted by Krypton Why don't the UN work on stopping the US/Israel unilateralism? |
The UN can go fuck off.
If your religious beliefs and convictions are so weak that you need to get the UN to help you maybe it's time you convert or learn a bit more about your religion and not be such an insecure tool.
If it weren't for the hundreds of gaping theological holes, the bull shit insecurity and the idiot figure heads of Islam there wouldn't be a need to show them so much special attention all the time.
I bet most Muslim politicians that lobby for Islamic "rights" and other bs are probably the people with the least faith among Muslims in the first place. Insecurity is a personal problem, leave it out of world politics thank you very much.
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| Originally posted by DJ Damerchi the UN is a bureaucratic tunnel organization for the most part....but its organizations along with NGO's that participate are key in getting world figures and statistics, and atleast bring awareness to problems that would otherwise go under the radar. Also their aid is very important to alot of people. Their peacekeepers are very helpful in maintaining buffer zones in places like Cyprus. |
So let me get this straight... Its okay for ADL to exist, but when Islam has something like this, its bad? The Jewish influence on United States is vast, why till this day the American citizens haven't figured that out yet is beyond me. People are so mixed up in this "Muslims trying to take over the world" bullshit, that they haven't realized that Judaism is in the process or has already succeeded into doing just that. Stop wandering along with the mass-media outlets. Dig deeper and get the true stories.
And if you don't believe what I mean by the Jewish takeover, here is a starting list to set you on the right path. Now I wonder why Israel has so much support... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...can_politicians
re: "Most jews to ever enter congress"
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