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Posted by cryophonik on Feb-16-2009 22:04:

Submitting new material to your current label

Questions for you guys that are signed to a label(s): when you come out with a new song, do you pretty much automatically send it to that label for their consideration first (assuming that it is the same genre/style)?

Also, do you go through the same submittal process, or are you a little less formal with the submission (e.g., send an mp3 directly to your contact)?


Posted by Vortex_SA on Feb-16-2009 22:14:

i think it depends on the contract you got with the label... up until now i was in contract with two labels, and I'm sort of a loyal dude if the label trust my music and i trust them i stay, if i see I'm of no interest to the label and get declined for my material or getting major critique (like a change of style and such) i will search a new home for my music, i got lots of other things in mind and i don't like the endless search for a label so when i find something nice i stick with it...

and i like to keep stuff personal so i just send an mp3 and a short mail to the guy who I'm in contact with...


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-16-2009 22:42:

Unless your contract specifies otherwise, what it all comes down to is how much loyalty do you feel toward them?

Questions I would ask:
- Have past submissions always gone smoothly?
- Are you happy with your contract(s)?
- Are you satisfied with their marketing and distribution thus far?
- Do you have any sort of rapport with your primary contact, or anyone else at the label?
- Does the new track's style fit with what the label likes to push?
- Have they generally always acted professionally toward you?

If your answer is a definite "yes", then fire it off to your contact along with a short message and see what happens. If you're not sure about any of those things, then see if some other label might be a better fit.


Posted by zodiac9 on Feb-17-2009 01:37:

If I find a good thing, I stick with it. I'm dealing with 2 labels now, all my new material goes straight to them. I first have to decide what tracks to send to each. One label likes me to release 4 song EPs, the other likes 2 song EPs. I simply email the A&R's a link to the tracks I'm submitting, very informal. If a song isn't chosen for release, I don't consider it a rejection, I just assume they liked the other songs more. If ever there is a track neither label wants, not sure if I'd try to find another label or not. I hate sending demos out.


Posted by Eric J on Feb-17-2009 01:54:

I've got a relationship with only a single label at the moment, but I am trying to submit my material to other labels as well. Generally, there are certain tracks that fit with the label I work with, so I send those along immediately. Other tracks that are more on the "trancy" side, I'm trying to submit to other labels because I do not feel the sound fits well with my label ATM. My label is outstanding, and I love to work with them, but they have a pretty full release schedule. I also think it's a god idea to have a working relationship with at least a few labels, that way you can spread your music around a bit.


Posted by parafrNalia on Feb-17-2009 02:22:

I think that Wesley is probably the guy to ask. roflmfaolawl.


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-17-2009 02:58:

Good info guys - thanks! I'm not contractually obligated to send my label anything or release anything else through them, but since I already have a rapport with them, you guys have confirmed with me that it makes the most sense to send them material fitting their genres first. Also, I'm with zodiac9 - I hate sending demos out as well.

quote:
Originally posted by parafrNalia
I think that Wesley is probably the guy to ask. roflmfaolawl.


Maybe I'm just dim, but I don't get it.


Posted by parafrNalia on Feb-17-2009 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Good info guys - thanks! I'm not contractually obligated to send my label anything or release anything else through them, but since I already have a rapport with them, you guys have confirmed with me that it makes the most sense to send them material fitting their genres first. Also, I'm with zodiac9 - I hate sending demos out as well.



Maybe I'm just dim, but I don't get it.


lol. Wesley is the guy that posts under the name goodtime. Sure you have seen him around. Always talking about how he is signed and all... he must know a ton about it. lol. It was sarcasm. :P


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-17-2009 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by parafrNalia
It was sarcasm. :P


Oooooohhhh, sarcasm. I see. Yeah, I tried that...[sarcasm]...once...[/sacrasm].


Posted by Magnus on Feb-17-2009 20:10:

Less formal. I just send the same person or persons I have worked with from the start of the relationship with the label the MP3 directly and ask them to check it out. Getting a response in a reasonable amount of time, now that is another matter.


Posted by cronodevir on Feb-18-2009 16:26:

Labels rape the musician...and usually they make a couple thousand times more than what they actually pay for the song. Say you have a compilation CD, it has 20 tracks. Say they paid anywehre from 500 to 2000 for each track [well say it cost 40k] They sell the CD for 20 dollars, and they sell a million copies.... that is 20 million dollars. Lets say they sell 500,000 copies. That is 10 million...you get the picture? My Advice would be to find a way to sell your music yourself. Screw labels. I know plenty of people who actually make the music, put it to CDs and/or vinyl and they get stores to sell their music. No label involved unless the store is gay and only accepts labeled Cds. And you stand to make a bit more money.

Also, why send a label an mp3? Duh...send them a .wav


Posted by Subtle on Feb-18-2009 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Also, why send a label an mp3? Duh...send them a .wav
maybe one should get their track accepted first ?


Posted by cronodevir on Feb-18-2009 16:36:

Yeah, so send a wav.


Posted by Theran on Feb-18-2009 16:37:

Well, a label will ask you for a WAV file if they like your track, so why send them the WAV immediately.

I personally stay loyal to my label. And the way we communicate is very informal, I finish a track, he says, 'yo dude, I would like to sign', I say 'okay'... and we have a deal.

I don't think it's a bad thing sending tracks to other labels, just to see how they think of it. I mean, c'mon, everybody wants to get signed to Anjunabeats of Armada, so why not give it a shot!


Posted by Subtle on Feb-18-2009 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Yeah, so send a wav.
Its a demo not the necessarily the finished product. So what u say doesnt make sense.


Posted by cronodevir on Feb-18-2009 21:23:

To bad we arn't talking about sending Demos.


Posted by Subtle on Feb-18-2009 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
To bad we arn't talking about sending Demos.
Standard procedure is to send mp3 for acceptance first.
Then you either master the track yourself and send that, or you hand out the wave file to them for further processing.


Posted by cronodevir on Feb-19-2009 06:21:

I just send in a full .wav and they use it or they don't.


Posted by thecYrus on Feb-19-2009 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
I just send in a full .wav and they use it or they don't.


the A&Rs will love you for those 100MB downloads


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-19-2009 08:19:

I think he'll even email them as an attachment.


Posted by Lokh�n on Feb-19-2009 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I think he'll even email them as an attachment.


That's the best way to get your tracks signed!


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-19-2009 20:01:

dont forget 24bit 96kHz to make sure they can get a really good preview.


Posted by Subtle on Feb-19-2009 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
dont forget 24bit 96kHz to make sure they can get a really good preview.
Dude.. if you are gonna get to the really big labels you have to submit 192khz 32 bit float.
The file will be approximately 500 MB, but hey! only the best is good enough!


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-20-2009 06:30:

And add your day to day diary (biography) from the day you where born. Of course they need to know who you are before they can sign anything from you! It took me more then I year before I could finally send out my first demo because I didn't have my biography sorted!

Oh, and you need a professional photo shoot for some proper pictures.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Feb-21-2009 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
They sell the CD for 20 dollars, and they sell a million copies.... that is 20 million dollars.

The best artists like deadmau5 probably sell around 50 million!



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