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Founder of US TV station to portray Muslims in a positive light fails spectacularly!
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| The founder of an upstate New York TV station aimed at countering Muslim stereotypes has been arrested on suspicion of killing his wife, who was beheaded, authorities said http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/0...falo.beheading/ |
that's the definition of ironic
Re: Founder of US TV station to portray Muslims in a positive light fails spectacularly!
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Jesus Christ! You couldn't make shit like that up! This is the kind of thing that should be opposed, not a blanket criticism of Islam in general. |
dude that sucks.....
poor woman
Geee I wonder where he got the idea of cutting her head off from?...... Maybe he will get another CAIR award for his actions.
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| Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS Geee I wonder where he got the idea of cutting her head off from? |
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| Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS Geee I wonder where he got the idea of cutting her head off from?...... |
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| Originally posted by colonelcrisp Greyhound.... sorry lulz |
That made my day.
Re: Founder of US TV station to portray Muslims in a positive light fails spectacularly!
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Jesus Christ! You couldn't make shit like that up! This is the kind of thing that should be opposed, not a blanket criticism of Islam in general. I suppose when general and unfair criticisms of a culture are made, things like this can get missed as people ignore those criticisms (what, you didn't think I was actually gonna start a thread criticising Islam in general did you?!) Obviously, that is IF this is an honour killing (altho the detached head would suggest so) |
Re: Founder of US TV station to portray Muslims in a positive light fails spectacularly!
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Jesus Christ! You couldn't make shit like that up! This is the kind of thing that should be opposed, not a blanket criticism of Islam in general. I suppose when general and unfair criticisms of a culture are made, things like this can get missed as people ignore those criticisms (what, you didn't think I was actually gonna start a thread criticising Islam in general did you?!) Obviously, that is IF this is an honour killing (altho the detached head would suggest so) |
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| Originally posted by colonelcrisp Greyhound.... sorry lulz |
Re: Re: Founder of US TV station to portray Muslims in a positive light fails spectacularly!
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| Originally posted by josh4 Criticism against Islam in general notwithstanding, where would a respectable couple like that be conditioned to believe this is acceptable behavior? What would make a seemingly normal domesticated man think the only course of action is to behead his wife? Did he learn these beliefs in temple? Was he raised with them? The public is going to have questions and the frustration usually comes from a lack of voluntary explanation to outsiders of Islam. |
Ok somebody explain the Greyhound jokes! WTF!?
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Ok somebody explain the Greyhound jokes! WTF!? |
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Screaming passengers fled in terror from a Greyhound bus as an unidentified fellow passenger suddenly stabbed a man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and waved the severed head at horrified witnesses standing outside. ... ... |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Ok somebody explain the Greyhound jokes! WTF!? |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Sorry George, here: http://www.thestar.com/article/470913 |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Kin ell! Maybe beheading is a North American thing! |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Kin ell! Maybe beheading is a North American thing! |
Rabbi Iamaretard: How Can You Link Islam With an Honor Killing?......
Hmmm, how about they're committed 99.999999% of the time by Muslims? How's that for starters?......
I already got some hate mail, but what the heck. I am not afraid.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...omes_to_the_us/
'Honor' killing comes to the US
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Globe Columnist / August 10, 2008
NO ONE knows just how many Muslim girls and women are murdered each year in the name of family "honor," since their deaths frequently go unreported and unpunished. The cases that do come to light are ghastly. "Women and young girls are set ablaze, strangled, shot at, clubbed, stabbed, tortured, axed, or stoned to death," a United Nations report noted in 2004. "Their bodies are found mutilated with their throat slit, or they are chopped into pieces and thrown in a ditch."
The report singled out as especially horrifying the honor killing in Pakistan of "a 16-year-old girl who was reportedly electrocuted to death after being drugged with sleeping pills and being tied to a wooden bed with iron chains." Her offense: marrying a boy from the wrong community. Countless others have lost their lives for refusing an arranged marriage, wearing Western-style clothing, having a boyfriend, or even being raped.
Recently, the Saudi human rights activist Wajeha al-Huwaidar wrote a scathing essay characterizing honor killings as a scourge peculiar to the "Greater Middle East," with its entrenched culture of misogyny and male supremacy. Her article was prompted by the lynching of 17-year-old Du'a al-Aswad, a Kurdish girl stoned to death by a mob of Iraqi men. (The essay has been translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which also provides a link to a gruesome cellphone video of the lynching.) "From Pakistan and Afghanistan through Iran, the Middle East, and all the way to Morocco," Huwaidar wrote, "this entire part of the world [is full of] defeated and dejected men, whose only way to gain some sort of victory is by beating their women to death."
In the last few months, there have been news reports of a Jordanian man murdering his daughter "to cleanse the family's honor" after she kept leaving home without permission; another Jordanian, 22 years old, who gave the same reason - "family honor" - for killing his pregnant sister; a Saudi woman beaten and shot by her father after he discovered her having an online correspondence with a man on Facebook; and two Arab brothers in Israel, who strangled their sister after learning that she was involved in a romantic relationship.
But while honor killings may be more prevalent in the Middle East, no longer are they unknown in the West.
In the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro last month, a Pakistani immigrant allegedly strangled his 25-year-old daughter with a bungee cord because she was determined to end her arranged marriage and had gotten involved with a new man. According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Sandeela Kanwal's father, Chaudhry Rashid, "told police he is Muslim and that extramarital affairs and divorce are against his religion [and] that's why he killed her." In court last week, a detective quoted Rashid: "God will protect me. God is watching me. I strangled my daughter."
In Upstate New York a few weeks earlier, Waheed Allah Mohammad, an immigrant from Afghanistan, was charged with attempted murder after repeatedly stabbing his 19-year-old sister. The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle reported that Mohammad was "infuriated because his younger sister was going to clubs, wearing immodest clothing, and planning to leave her family for a new life in New York City" - she was a "bad Muslim girl," he told sheriff's investigators.
On New Year's Day in Irving, Texas, the bullet-riddled bodies of the Said sisters - Sarah, 17, and Amina, 18 - were found in an abandoned taxi. Police issued an arrest warrant for their father, an Egyptian immigrant named Yaser Abdel Said, who had reportedly threatened to kill them upon learning that they had boyfriends. According to the Dallas Morning News, Yaser Said was given to "gun-waving rants about how Western culture was corrupting the chastity of his daughters."
While many authorities say that Islamic religious tradition does not sanction honor killing, it has long been accepted in many Muslim societies all the same. Perpetrators are typically punished lightly, if at all. In 2003, Jordan's parliament overwhelmingly defeated a proposal to impose harsher penalties for honor killings; Islamists objected on the grounds that more severe punishment would violate religious traditions and damage Jordanian society. It is appalling that such lethally barbaric attitudes persist anywhere - all the more so now that the shame of honor killing has made its way here.
�Beheading has more to do with culture and country of origin [than religion],� Mangera stated. �It has nothing to do with Islam.
Then why do they (Muslims) force their Sharia laws on Britian then?
Why not leave their culture alone then?
That answer lies within the Quran and its followers.
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Funny, seems to happen more on your end of the pond... (MUCH more...) |
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| Behind Mexico's Wave of Beheadings By Ioan Grillo / Mexico City There's a peaceful aura about the lifeless faces lined up on the video, death having drained the tension from their cheeks, their eyes wide shut above thick mustaches and square jaws. But as the shot pans out, the horror of their end is revealed: The dead men's heads have been roughly hacked away from their torsos, which the camera finds hanging upside down across the room on meat hooks, their blood draining away onto white floor tiles. "This is your responsibility for not respecting the deals you have made with us," reads a handwritten note in Spanish by the decapitated heads. The sickening footage was posted on YouTube after 12 headless bodies were dumped onto two ranches in Mexico's southeastern Yucatan peninsula last week. Police identified the victims as local drug dealers, saying five were decapitated while alive but that the rest had been dismembered after first being strangled or beaten to death. A police sweep netted three suspects allegedly arrested while carrying bloodied axes and machetes. The suspects were alleged to have been members of the ultra-violent drug gang the Zetas, indicating the atrocities may have been the latest act of terror in the relentless turf war over Mexico's billion-dollar smuggling routes. Police also claimed the killings may have had a ritual dimension, after searching the suspects' houses and finding shrines to "The Holy Death," a Grim Reaper figure venerated by many Mexican criminals. (See photos of fighting crime in Mexico City here. The biggest mass beheading in recent history caused widespread revulsion in Mexico but little surprise. Decapitations have become as commonplace in the increasingly vicious narco turf battles as stabbings are in London. During August alone, gangsters hacked off 30 craniums across the country � adding to the total of almost 200 beheadings in 2008 so far. Heads have been stuck on crosses, shoved into iceboxes and left in car trunks along with snakes. "The gangsters use these bloody tactics to try and win a psychological war against their enemy and sow terror in the population," says Luis Astorga, author of several books on the cartels. "But neither side is winning, and the violence just spirals without end as the gangs keep raising their bets and killing in more spectacular ways." Decapitations were almost unheard of here before 2006. The first case related to the drug wars occurred in April of that year, when thugs left the craniums of two policemen in the seaside resort Acapulco, apparently in revenge for the shooting of four traffickers in a prolonged gun battle. The following September, thugs in ski masks rolled five severed heads onto a dance floor in the mountainous state of Michoac�n. The cycle of beheadings intensified throughout 2007 until every gangster in Mexico seemed to have an executioner's ax in his arsenal. Most heads are left with notes, such as one that read: "See. Hear. Shut up. If you want to stay alive." Others have been videotaped, the footage posted on the Internet. One 2007 film on YouTube showed a man in a ski mask slicing off the head of an alleged Zeta in his underwear tied to a chair. YouTube quickly removed the video, just as it took down last week's film of the beheaded bodies. But the site handles millions of videos, making them difficult to control. Public Safety Secretary Genaro Garcia Luna claims the inspiration for the terror tactic had been al-Qaeda in Iraq. "This began after there was an image that al-Qaeda sent out to the world via the Internet showing the execution of a prisoner in Iraq," he told a news conference after the 2007 video. There may also be more local influences at work. Following some early beheadings, Mexican police arrested former members of Guatemala's �lite Kaibil military unit, which carried out bloody atrocities against rebel villages during the nation's four-decade civil war. "We have testimonies of the Kaibiles hacking off the heads of living people with knives to terrorize communities," said Guatemalan Representative Otilia Lux de Coti, who served in the nation's Truth Commission following the 1996 peace accord. "Many continue to be dangerous killers after they leave the military." The Kaibiles are alleged to work with Mexico's Zetas, many of whom were themselves defectors from �lite military units. Beheadings are also a favored tactic of Central America's bloody Mara Salvatrucha gangs, who have been enlisted as muscle by the Mexican mafias. Archaeologist Ernesto Vargas says the tactic could even reflect the pre-Columbian use of beheadings, a common tactic of the Mayan people who dominated southern Mexico and Guatemala before the Spanish conquest. "The Mayans cut off the heads of prisoners as a symbol of complete domination over their enemies," Vargas says. One of the biggest pre-Hispanic sites of severed skulls was found in the Mayan ruins of Chichen Itza, close to the site of last week's massacre, he points out. Whatever its roots, there appears no end in sight to the current wave of decapitations. Astorga fears that even worse atrocities lie ahead. "Who knows what perverse methods these assassins might use to get one up over their rivals," he says. "Many are military killers but without the army command to hold them back. Their only limits are what they can imagine or what they can find in the most violent Hollywood movies." http://www.time.com/time/printout/0...1839576,00.html |
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| Originally posted by LazFX Actually I think a few Mexican Drug Lords would like to have a word with you// |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Funny, seems to happen more on your end of the pond... (MUCH more...) |
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| Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS Nice try... You might be blind but I am not. |
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| Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS "Beheading has more to do with culture and country of origin [than religion]," Mangera stated. "It has nothing to do with Islam. Then why do they (Muslims) force their Sharia laws on Britian then? Why not leave their culture alone then? That answer lies within the Quran and its followers. |
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