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Posted by paulc_dj on Feb-19-2009 10:19:

First piece of hardware!

I am getting my first piece of hardware for my birthday, a JP8080 on the weekend.

My question is regarding connectivity, I am using FL Studio, and an M-Audio 2496 PCI card. What cables do I need and how do they connect please, so that I can send midi from fruity to playback patches on the JP.

Also are there settings on the JP that I need to be aware of?

Cheers

PC


Posted by 4everX on Feb-19-2009 10:37:

it's simple u need 2 MIDI cable (for send and recive data from and toward your machine) and an audio cable to send audio data in your DAW (you have to connect it in a audio input on your m-audio)


Posted by Eldritch on Feb-19-2009 12:18:

The M-Audio card has RCA connectors so you will need two unbalanced TRS 1/4" to RCA cables.


Posted by Subtle on Feb-19-2009 12:37:

JP was my first hardware synth too

The 8080 has a handy Keyboard IN input, so you can easily plug a MIDI keyboard into it.


Posted by alanzo on Feb-19-2009 14:52:

FL studio has really shitty hardware support (unless this has recently been fixed). From what I know, you'll be able to record the .WAV files and play the gear via MIDI, but FL doesn't support any sort of latency correction or direct monitoring. So you'll have to record all of the sounds from your JP, rather than listen to them live, with FX, synced to the rest of the track.


Posted by Owsey on Feb-19-2009 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
FL studio has really shitty hardware support


+1

If it were me, I'd get a different DAW before the JP.


Posted by psymon.d on Feb-19-2009 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
FL studio has really shitty hardware support (unless this has recently been fixed). From what I know, you'll be able to record the .WAV files and play the gear via MIDI, but FL doesn't support any sort of latency correction or direct monitoring. So you'll have to record all of the sounds from your JP, rather than listen to them live, with FX, synced to the rest of the track.


Was still like this when I had FL 8...switched to Logic after getting the Virus.


Posted by alanzo on Feb-19-2009 20:44:

Adding to what I said, once you record to .wav, you can do whatever you want with it, add fx, chop it, etc, and it will sync with the rest of your track.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-19-2009 21:12:

my first synth was also the JP8080 and while i loved the sounds it could make i emidiately felt like it was from a diferent millenium (which it is). it was very uhm... what to say, clumsy??? to program. not as in dificult but just not intuitive lol. i hated it. then i got myself a clavia which was much better! then i got a virus which was even worse than the JP. then i got a Waldorf which was like even worse than that again hahahaha. so i sold everything and got myself a few grooveboxes from korg which was supereasy and fun to use but sounded like crap. so i sold them too. then im back where i started using Reason hahaha. planning on moving to Logic while i wait for something more intuitive to come on the hardware side, those things must be made by aliens. To my own protection im a VERY unpatient dude so it will probably work nicely out for most you. good luck on wasting your time


Posted by paulc_dj on Feb-19-2009 23:00:

I also have a Behringer Xenyx FX1204 mixer, would it be best to plug the audio out from the JP8080 into this rather than my M-Audio?


Posted by Beyer on Feb-22-2009 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by paulc_dj
I also have a Behringer Xenyx FX1204 mixer, would it be best to plug the audio out from the JP8080 into this rather than my M-Audio?


It�s best to avoid mixers, whenever possible. They will just degrade the sound. Especially the behringers
and other mixers in it�s price range. Though it may be impossible to hear any difference, in the end of the day.
Mike Shiver runs his synths through a cheap behringer mixer. I can�t say his sound is crap.


Posted by paulc_dj on Feb-27-2009 16:10:

I am having problems getting FL studio to "control" my JP. I am using a midi out and I just can't get the JP to respond. I have plugged my controller keyboard into the KBD IN midi input and I have 2 midi cables running from and to my breakout box of my M-Audio 2496 PCI card and in the midi in/out respectively. but still no playback of the midi notes with the patch on the JP.

Any ideas?

PC


Posted by Subtle on Feb-27-2009 16:17:

hold shift on the jp and press `PFM Part` check that part midi channel is at CH 1

Also check in `midi prm` that `perform ctrl ch` is set to 1 as well.

And of course, that output from FL is set to midi channel 1


Posted by paulc_dj on Feb-27-2009 16:53:

Have got Upper and Lower PFM part set to Ch 1. have also set perf ctrl ch to 1 as well. And midi out on FL is set to channel 1. Still no dice!

Nightmare!

Are there any settings in FL that i'm poss missing? I wish the JP had a midi light on it, so that I knew midi was getting through...


PC


Posted by Subtle on Feb-27-2009 16:57:

Check on the JP if Local Switch is set to ON.

And if it is, its your settings in FL


Posted by wood0292 on Feb-27-2009 18:13:

When I had a JP I had no luck unless I connected my MIDI out on my MIDI interface (connected to my PC) to the KBD IN of the JP. I never used the MIDI IN on it, but I guess I was using it only in performance mode according to this:

http://www.midicase.com/JP-8080/jp_midi.htm

edit: also, doesn't FL use a port along with a MIDI channel? I seem to recall having to set that to 0. I bought Ableton once I got more than 1 piece of hardware though, it was just not working smoothly in FL, but that was version 5 I think.


Posted by Aesthetic on Mar-02-2009 00:30:

Try this: In FL go to Options and make sure Enable MIDI Output has a tick on it

quote:
Originally posted by paulc_dj
I am having problems getting FL studio to "control" my JP. I am using a midi out and I just can't get the JP to respond. I have plugged my controller keyboard into the KBD IN midi input and I have 2 midi cables running from and to my breakout box of my M-Audio 2496 PCI card and in the midi in/out respectively. but still no playback of the midi notes with the patch on the JP.

Any ideas?

PC



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