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voyager + logic pro midi question

hey guys, so i got a used voyager recently and i am loving the sounds and what it can do.

My only main problem is, how in the hell does the midi work on this thing? I bought a motu fastlane-usb (midi interface) and i have read the manual but cannot seem to get the voyager to playback midi notes.

it records and shows which keys i play in logic it just wont play back or let me adjust the midi notes i have recorded? please help before i shoot myself from frustration!!!# thanks

bump?

keep reading the manuals until you succeed or quit.

alternatively... give people a bit more detail about what exactly you are doing (from the start). the question you are asking is like "how do i math?"

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Originally posted by echosystm keep reading the manuals until you succeed or quit. alternatively... give people a bit more detail about what exactly you are doing (from the start). the question you are asking is like "how do i math?"

really lol, thought i was lightly detailed hah..

well basically i got the voyager hooked up to the fastlane midi interface.
and i got that so i can be able to write in notes in logics piano roll, so it will trigger the voyager. for ex on a soft synth you write in the notes and when you hit play the synth would play the sequence you have inputed. now i am trying to achieve that same concept on the voyager.. make sense now?

No, it's still not clear. Let's start with the basics.

1) is the MIDI OUT of your Voyager connected to the MIDI IN of your MIDI interface AND the MIDI IN of the Voyager connected to the MIDI OUT of the interface? You need to have both connected in order to have 2-way communication between your DAW and the Voyager.

2) Is Logic recognizing your MIDI interface (and all inputs/outputs)?

3) I'm not familiar with Logic, but I assume that like most DAWs, each MIDI track has an assignable MIDI input and MIDI output. Are both the inputs and output assigned to the same inputs/outputs on your interface that the Voyager is connected to?

Oops - forgot to add #4:

4) What MIDI channel is your Voyager assigned to? Is your MIDI track's output assigned to the same MIDI channel as the Voyager? The MIDI track's input should be assigned the same channel as well, or assigned to "Omni" (i.e., will receive any MIDI channels) if that is an option in Logic.

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Originally posted by cryophonik No, it's still not clear. Let's start with the basics. 1) is the MIDI OUT of your Voyager connected to the MIDI IN of your MIDI interface AND the MIDI IN of the Voyager connected to the MIDI OUT of the interface? You need to have both connected in order to have 2-way communication between your DAW and the Voyager. 2) Is Logic recognizing your MIDI interface (and all inputs/outputs)? 3) I'm not familiar with Logic, but I assume that like most DAWs, each MIDI track has an assignable MIDI input and MIDI output. Are both the inputs and output assigned to the same inputs/outputs on your interface that the Voyager is connected to?

1. It is now hehe (pictures to verify)



2. im not sure if i fully understand the question, but when i hit keys on the moog, it tells me which notes im playing in logic, and also when i record the audio the piano roll opens up and shows the midi being inputed, but once i stop recording that midi is gone! and if i draw it in, it will not play back!!

3. again im not sure about this one either ??

4. not sure again.. i am a total noob with settings and hardware (first hardware synth)

Read your Logic manual...

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Originally posted by dj bamshad ...when i hit keys on the moog, it tells me which notes im playing in logic, and also when i record the audio the piano roll opens up and shows the midi being inputed, but once i stop recording that midi is gone! and if i draw it in, it will not play back!!

OK, well at least you're receiving MIDI from the Voyager - that's good. I have no idea as to why Logic doesn't store the MIDI and play it back, but that sounds like a Logic issue and not a hardware issue. So, yeah, check your manual and hopefully a fellow Logic user will come along to help you out.

Also, you could try to reassign an existing soft synth MIDI track (i.e., already has notes registered) to the Voyager. In other words, open one of your existing projects, choose one of the soft synths, and reassign its MIDI output so that it send the data to the Voyager, rather than the soft synth.

make sure you are on the right channel number when using your midi. In logic that is, choose the correct port. Also, make sure when you create a new track to adjust the output number in logic.

still havn't been able to get it guys.. read the logic manual, i am very close though.. if anyone has a moog voyager and is running it with logic please help a brother out ?

sell it, hardware sucks it doesnt have enough analog anymore.

Bamshad, you're problem seems to be not having the voyager ste up correctly.
Do this.....

MIDI:

Leave them wired up just as you have them.

Set the voyager up for "Local Off". Check the manual for how to do this.

Environment (apple8):

Open the Environment and select the MIDI Instruments layer. If there are any objects in this layer, just delete them.

From the New menu, select Instrument. Set its port to {your soundcard} and its channel to 1. Rename it Moog.

Arrange (apple1):

Create a new Instrument track, stereo.

In the channelstrip I/O select "External Instrument" as the instrument plug-in.

In the External Instrument plug-in window, MIDI Destination field, select MIDI Instruments: Moog. In the Input field select {your soundcard} 1&2.

Save this as a channelstrip setting named "Moog".

Hope this helps, but if you still can't get it to work, sell it and do something else.

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Originally posted by palm sell it, hardware sucks it doesnt have enough analog anymore.

asshole loll

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Bamshad, you're problem seems to be not having the voyager ste up correctly. Do this..... MIDI: Leave them wired up just as you have them. Set the voyager up for "Local Off". Check the manual for how to do this. Environment (apple8): Open the Environment and select the MIDI Instruments layer. If there are any objects in this layer, just delete them. From the New menu, select Instrument. Set its port to {your soundcard} and its channel to 1. Rename it Moog. Arrange (apple1): Create a new Instrument track, stereo. In the channelstrip I/O select "External Instrument" as the instrument plug-in. In the External Instrument plug-in window, MIDI Destination field, select MIDI Instruments: Moog. In the Input field select {your soundcard} 1&2. Save this as a channelstrip setting named "Moog". Hope this helps, but if you still can't get it to work, sell it and do something else.

i am trying right now.. give me a few minutes! thanks!!

Ok, I just did all that + some messing around.. I am getting warmer lol..

i can tell its very close to working because now it is letting me input midi from the voyager into the instrument track, it just wont play it back for me.. Hope you can help!!

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Originally posted by dj bamshad Ok, I just did all that + some messing around.. I am getting warmer lol.. i can tell its very close to working because now it is letting me input midi from the voyager into the instrument track, it just wont play it back for me.. Hope you can help!!

So you can record midi notes played live on the voyager, but when you hit play nothing happens?

What midi channel do you have selected on the instrument track?

Have you turned "local off" in the voyager?

What midi channel is receive set to in the Voyager?

I just had a lengthy PM session with dj bamshed, and I had him try all of this, to no avail. My suspicion now points toward there being a physical problem. Maybe a bad cable or a problem with the MIDI interface or a port on the voyager itself. I'll be interested to hear about the final resolution.

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Originally posted by Eric J I just had a lengthy PM session with dj bamshed, and I had him try all of this, to no avail. My suspicion now points toward there being a physical problem. Maybe a bad cable or a problem with the MIDI interface or a port on the voyager itself. I'll be interested to hear about the final resolution.

Ah....good man, I'd be interested to know myself. I think he said the midi interface was second hand. I used to do tech support for Moog in the UK, and even though some of them had some hardware issues with the very first models, I never came across one that had trouble receiving midi (at least not when it was able to send). The cable issue is easy to figure because you just switch the one that is sending once you want to play back the midi in logic.

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Originally posted by dj bamshad Ok, I just did all that + some messing around.. I am getting warmer lol.. i can tell its very close to working because now it is letting me input midi from the voyager into the instrument track, it just wont play it back for me.. Hope you can help!!

If its not playing back to you, are you sure you have it properly connected to your interface? I see you got a Motu Fastlane now, what did you do with the Apogee and how do you have everything connected?

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Originally posted by Kismet7 If its not playing back to you, are you sure you have it properly connected to your interface? I see you got a Motu Fastlane now, what did you do with the Apogee and how do you have everything connected?

the fastline midi interface is connected to the mac via usb and im pretty sure its connected correctly i did it the way it stated in the manual.

i also have pictures that show how i connected them.

the only thing i can do right now is just record midi while playing the voyager live.. it wont play that sequence back though.

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Originally posted by dj bamshad the fastline midi interface is connected to the mac via usb and im pretty sure its connected correctly i did it the way it stated in the manual. i also have pictures that show how i connected them. the only thing i can do right now is just record midi while playing the voyager live.. it wont play that sequence back though.

Did you download the driver from the motu site, or just use the one on the supplied disk?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Did you download the driver from the motu site, or just use the one on the supplied disk?

good question! i will download the new one right now

it would tell me that the motu couldnt be detected at times.. forgot to mention that

nevverrmind.. it was the same installer, nothing changed!

Have you tried swapping MIDI cables? Make sure one of the cables is not bad.

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