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Pot legislation to be heard on Monday in Cali...

Will wonders never cease? Or pie in the sky?
Hmmmm...pie...it's not munchies but...

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Legalize It: Ammiano to Introduce Legislation Monday to Allow Pot -- and Tax It By Joe Eskenazi in Breaking News, GovernmentSunday, Feb. 22 2009 @ 5:00PM The story SF Weekly broke on Friday is true: Assemblyman Tom Ammiano will announce legislation on Monday to legalize marijuana and earn perhaps $1 billion annually by taxing it. Quintin Mecke, Ammiano's press secretary, confirmed to SF Weekly that the assemblyman's 10 a.m. Monday press conference regarding "new legislation related to the state's fiscal crisis" will broach the subject of reaping untold -- and much-needed -- wealth from the state's No. 1 cash crop. Mecke said Ammiano's proposed bill "would remove all penalties in California law on cultivation, transportation, sale, purchase, possession, or use of marijuana, natural THC, or paraphernalia for persons over the age of 21." The bill would additionally prohibit state and local law officials from enforcing federal marijuana laws. As for Step Two -- profit -- Ammiano's bill calls for "establishing a fee on the sale of marijuana at a rate of $50 per ounce." Mecke said that would bring in roughly $1 billion for the state, according to estimates made by marijuana advocacy organizations.

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If this doomsday recession can make pot legal, then it may be worth it

Pot saves the day again!

haha, yeah i was just reading about this.

i love how in america you can make anything legal as long as there's money to be made

I'd love to see marijuana get taxed and regulated.

Here in Texas we have to many Mexican Drug Lords pushing their shit into Texas, and that has fuct up the economy and created cities in the middle of bum fuck no where border towns. That an if you can get illegal marijuana into Texas you sure as hell can get Illegal immigrants into Texas.

I think if California passes AB 390 that state is going to banking a shit ton of money and organized crime is be revolutionized.

The Mexican Mafia is gonna have to re-think their plan on how to bank off Americans.

Also if the Mexican Mafia or gang related people break into people's houses we are going to see a lot more killings. Here in Texas you'd get shot in the fucking face for breaking and entering; let alone trying to steal a man's business.

Re: Pot legislation to be heard on Monday in Cali...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Will wonders never cease? Or pie in the sky? Hmmmm...pie...it's not munchies but... >>Source<<

I'm surprised you're the one to post this since it is so preliminary. There is no story here yet really. Someone is introducing legislation in California? That's not news and happens all the time.

Call me when it shows chance of passing.

$50/oz.

Good lord.

...And in recent news, the homicide rate in the state of California appears to be dropping at a rate of 5% per month, ever since the legalisation of innocuous pyschotropic substances. Fast food and pizza delivery industries are thriving; so much so, stock has more than doubled and shows no indication of stopping, it would appear that the only difficulty these businesses face anymore is keeping up with demand...

That's nice, but even if it passed, I'm not sure it would change much of anything.

Federal narcotics laws would still apply, and federal authorities would still enforce them in California. It's not even clear that the feds couldn't get access to the records of who has paid the tax in order to find and prosecute those individuals.

It's true that not having state police enforce the laws would make it easier to "get away with," but it would hardly be "legal" in any meaningful sense as long as it's a federal crime...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, yeah i was just reading about this. i love how in america you can make anything legal as long as there's money to be made

yep, pretty much

legalize it

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Originally posted by Aortik $50/oz. Good lord.

supply & demand, that's common knowledge for us smokers. everyone knows weed prices are inflated most of the time

I am about to have a fucking heart attack...never in my life time. would I have dreamed back to back "never going to happen in my life time" events coming true....

1st A black man is elected POTUS
Then Weed might just become legal ...


Where is my fucking nitro??


never in my life time. wow




light it don't hide it. Then Tax the shit out of it! Shit the feds could charge the same fucking rate or maybe even 50% less than straight value and we will be out of the red in no time.

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Originally posted by josh4 I'm surprised you're the one to post this since it is so preliminary. There is no story here yet really. Someone is introducing legislation in California? That's not news and happens all the time. Call me when it shows chance of passing.

I'm sorry, who died and made you king again?

It's quite obvious this is very speculative so I would suggest simply not posting until fits your myopic criteria.

For the rest of us, the subject matter alone is enough.

Good day.

I would be incredibly surprised if this comes anywhere near passing, but it's certainly a great stepping stone. If nothing else, it shows the idiots in Washington DC that public support is changing away from prohibition and that legalization isn't a political death wish.

But on the off chance it does pass in Cali, I could see the rest of the Pacific coast following right in their footsteps: there's already talk of further decriminalization in Washington state.

*EDIT* I'm also surprised at just how much publicity this is getting. Every year for the last couple years, Rep. Frank of Massachusetts introduces basically the same bill on Congress and nothing ever comes of it, not to mention the media not even mentioning it. However, with this Cali bill, it actually made the local Bend Oregon news this morning. I don't know if it was just a slow day in the news or if it signifies something greater, but here's hoping.

oregon...such a nice place.

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Originally posted by Audigy7 I would be incredibly surprised if this comes anywhere near passing, but it's certainly a great stepping stone. If nothing else, it shows the idiots in Washington DC that public support is changing away from prohibition and that legalization isn't a political death wish. But on the off chance it does pass in Cali, I could see the rest of the Pacific coast following right in their footsteps: there's already talk of further decriminalization in Washington state. *EDIT* I'm also surprised at just how much publicity this is getting. Every year for the last couple years, Rep. Frank of Massachusetts introduces basically the same bill on Congress and nothing ever comes of it, not to mention the media not even mentioning it. However, with this Cali bill, it actually made the local Bend Oregon news this morning. I don't know if it was just a slow day in the news or if it signifies something greater, but here's hoping.

Change you can believe in?

50$ an ounce is pretty much the standard price for good weed in CA already.

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Originally posted by Clovis 50$ an ounce is pretty much the standard price for good weed in CA already.

Not for an ounce.

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Originally posted by Clovis 50$ an ounce is pretty much the standard price for good weed in CA already.

this thread is about marijuana, not arugula.

you mean 1/4 oz.?

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Originally posted by Q5echo this thread is about marijuana, not arugula.

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Originally posted by Clovis 50$ an ounce is pretty much the standard price for good weed in CA already.

LOL, what kind of shitty shwag are you smoking?

1/8th of an ounce. Sorry guys, I was probably stoned.

Q5, laughed out loud at that one, thanks.

So a 50$ tax on an ounce of weed, thats pretty reasonable. I'd buy state sponsored over the black market, the weed made for the medical dispensaries is almost always excellent quality if you buy from a good spot. ( my brother has a medicinal card).

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Raids on Medical Marijuana Will End By Gene Silver NBCLosAngeles.com updated 30 minutes ago Medical marijuana advocates were celebrating Thursday night. The U.S. Attorney General has announced plans to end raids on medical marijuana dispensaries that are legal under state law. Newly installed U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder declared he would stop the practice established by the Bush administration of raiding legally licensed medical marijuana dispensaries. The Drug Enforcement Agency will now cease the raids that have continued, according to reports, even after Bush left office. Holder said Obama's campaign promise to stop the raids is "now American policy." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29422463/

Color me a skeptic still but this is getting interesting.

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Originally posted by josh4 Color me a skeptic still but this is getting interesting.

Funny you posted this--hopefully the fact that it was published 30 minutes ago means it is more serious. I watched Marijuana Inc. last week (A CNBC documentary on the U.S. pot industry). They made a point of showing that, despite current administration claims that they were going to end these raids, that they were, in fact, still occurring with some regularity. Hopefully there is some progress being made here. My glaucoma is killing me.

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Originally posted by Shakka Funny you posted this--hopefully the fact that it was published 30 minutes ago means it is more serious. I watched Marijuana Inc. last week (A CNBC documentary on the U.S. pot industry). They made a point of showing that, despite current administration claims that they were going to end these raids, that they were, in fact, still occurring with some regularity. Hopefully there is some progress being made here. My glaucoma is killing me.

I think it will be legalized eventually, it is at least heading in that direction. Similar to Gay Marriage even, the old stereotypes will die with the baby boomers and those before them.

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The first poll, conducted last week by Rasmussen Reports, has 40 percent of Americans in support of legalizing the drug and 46 percent opposed. The second, conducted in January by CBS News, has 41 percent in favor of legalization and 52 percent against. And a third poll, conducted by Zogby on behalf of the marijuana-rights advocacy group NORML, has 44 percent of Americans in support of legalized pot and 52 percent opposed. That all three polls show support for legalization passing through the 40 percent barrier may be significant. I compiled a database of every past poll I could find on this subject, including a series of Gallup polls and results from the General Social Survey, and could never before find more than 36 percent of the population (Gallup in October, 2005) stating a position in favor of legalization: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009...der-to-bud.html

However, I think anything of the magnitude Fir3start3r posted, at current time would be too dramatic to find realistic.

In regards to the raids, the ones carried out in the beginning of this administration had been operations planned for some time. With the transition it took them a while to implement their policies. You can't really call those as examples of going against promises made.

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