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Posted by coroknight on Feb-24-2009 16:39:

Full Sounding Mixes

I've been listening to a lot of essential mixes lately and theirs something that has been bugging me for quite some time.

How do they get their mixes to sound so full and energetic? I'm not talking about mixing skill, track selection, or anything like that. I mean the sound itself.

I know it's probably the recording but i was wondering if you guys maybe know about some inside trick that i don't.


Posted by montana on Feb-24-2009 16:47:

compressors.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-24-2009 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
compressors.

Yep.

Most of the songs are highly compressed even before they get played, and radio stations add an additional level of compression, especially pop and dance stations since people tend to listen to those in noisy environments.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-24-2009 17:51:

I understand. I was just wondering if their was some special DJ trick that made your mixes sound fuller. It seems like it's just the radio doing that.

Thanks guys!


Posted by iammesol on Feb-24-2009 18:07:

Compress your mix afterwards if you're demoing it.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-24-2009 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Compress your mix afterwards if you're demoing it.


read my mind


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-24-2009 19:14:

please dont, essential mixes sounds fucking bad, just turn up the volume instead. and if its not loud enough your stereo is fucking shit, someone fooled you when buying that shit. get a new one and dont help the industri ruin all future music, its only getting worse and worse for each cd i get this fucking compression shit. watch your ears.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-24-2009 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
please dont, essential mixes sounds fucking bad, just turn up the volume instead. and if its not loud enough your stereo is fucking shit, someone fooled you when buying that shit. get a new one and dont help the industri ruin all future music, its only getting worse and worse for each cd i get this fucking compression shit. watch your ears.

Very, very true. Compressing will not polish a turd anyway.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-24-2009 19:52:

Don't worry I don't plan on throwing some random compressor over the top of my mix. I'm thinking of checking out Izotope Ozone.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-24-2009 19:59:

Fuck.

Seems like everyone is addicted to the sound of hyper-compressed music. It's absurd.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-24-2009 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Don't worry....

too late. mistake already out and ASOT + EM is to blame.


Posted by optik on Feb-24-2009 20:14:

to my ears there is often more than just compression going on. everything that goes out of radio one probably has several processes applied to it, including m/s conversion before things like vitalisers and enhancers are applied, then they are re-coded to stereo.

and it's not just compression - it's really expensive, good quality compression and peak limiting.

for practical, home use, you can use a maximiser like waves L1-3 to gain maximum level accross the mix, but be careful with this, as you can easily overdo it.

finally a lot of mixes have a light reverb over them to help them blend a little better.

hope this helps - and bear in mind I could be wrong


Posted by iammesol on Feb-24-2009 20:56:

Remember that one large reason EMs sound crap is because it is broadcast in a very low quality. I love the compression because it sounds live, as opposed to a flat set of tracks that are made expecting compression during the gig.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-24-2009 21:03:

I don't want my mixes to sound like crap but I envied the energy that all those radio mixes seem to have.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-24-2009 21:04:

u'll grow out of it.


Posted by Nell on Feb-24-2009 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Remember that one large reason EMs sound crap is because it is broadcast in a very low quality.


nope. you might download or listen over the internet in low quality, but the proper broadcasting is very high quality from the bbc.


Posted by cmay119 on Feb-25-2009 00:24:

Will compressing help with my vinyl rips? My vinyl rips seem very flat and don't capture as much of the low's or hi's that the record itself has.

If so, Audacity has a compression utility in it. Would I just want to use the default settings for compression? Or is there any settings any of you would recommend?

EDIT: Nevermind, I just used the Equalizer instead on one of my vinyl rips and that seems to have helped it a great deal.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-25-2009 00:41:

I love the sound of old Essential Mixes. I don't know if it's the compression but they always manage to sound really chunky and full even though the sound quality is low. You get thick, dubby bass and yet the top end is nice and audible too. It gives it a very nice texture and, like the OP says, a lot of energy.


Posted by Tangil on Feb-25-2009 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I love the sound of old Essential Mixes. I don't know if it's the compression but they always manage to sound really chunky and full even though the sound quality is low. You get thick, dubby bass and yet the top end is nice and audible too. It gives it a very nice texture and, like the OP says, a lot of energy.


i agree, has this changed since most essential mixes these days are digitally recorded?


Posted by coroknight on Feb-25-2009 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
i agree, has this changed since most essential mixes these days are digitally recorded?


I don't think so. Take a quick listen to sasha's most recent EM.



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