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MAXIMAL house music

So I've got plenty of minimal house/minimal techno. I was wondering, what is the most maximal house music. That is to say, what house music is out there that would be the exact opposite of minimal tech house? Lots and lots of layers, percussion, melodies and ...

A.) is not gay shit
B.) is not electro sounding

something along the lines of (and this is totally random and whats avail on youtube):



or:

Hmm, I don't quite see how the second one could ever be considered "maximal". It's just one loop that goes on and on throughout the whole track and... that's it. I guess something along the lines of tribal house/techno would have lots of percussion in it, if that's what you're after?

For instance, this: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1288882-02-01-10.mp3

I would think electro/fidget would be maximal house in its purest form. It's really the antithesis of minimal in a lot of respects.

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that minimal isn't defined by its lack of layers, because there really isn't one. Most "minimal" tracks I've heard have a bunch of layers in them, they're just used differently. There are fewer big, wide-frequency, heavy noises and many more light, percussive type elements instead. Creation of the song seems to be done with a "less is more" mentality, with he result being that each sound is given more space to breathe in the mix. The song sounds like it is more empty, but its not really due to a lack of layers, its the producer using those layers in a far more subdued fashion to create a track with more space and less noise.

The contrast of course is electro/fidget with their super huge distorted basslines that feel like they take up 3/4 of the mix, coupled with massive screeches and samples yelling at the dancefloor to get the fuck up and shake their booties (or take the dj's shaft). I can't think of anything that could be more opposed to what minimal producers try to accomplish.

Maximal house to me is more like this:



or this


or this


Personally, I just call it handbag house...

That leftfield is more what people would call tech house or techno these days I suspect. I don't even know what the second one is

I've always thought the "maximal" sound is like the big-room Razor N Guido/Junior Vasquez/Johnny Vicious productions from the late 90's... with 2 minute drumrolls, lots of screechy alarms and high-frequency synths, loud diva vocals, etc.

Funky or Chicago house?

ie:

Inland Knights
Johnny Fiasco
RTHM
Jay West
Scott Wozniak
Chuck Love

Maximal house?

For fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch I've always thought the "maximal" sound is like the big-room Razor N Guido/Junior Vasquez/Johnny Vicious productions from the late 90's... with 2 minute drumrolls, lots of screechy alarms and high-frequency synths, loud diva vocals, etc.

yes, this!

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Originally posted by Sadface I would think electro/fidget would be maximal house in its purest form. It's really the antithesis of minimal in a lot of respects.

yea i know, but everyone is playing that already. this violates rule B (refer to OP section B)

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Originally posted by Sadface I'm no expert, but it seems to me that minimal isn't defined by its lack of layers, because there really isn't one. Most "minimal" tracks I've heard have a bunch of layers in them, they're just used differently. There are fewer big, wide-frequency, heavy noises and many more light, percussive type elements instead. Creation of the song seems to be done with a "less is more" mentality, with he result being that each sound is given more space to breathe in the mix. The song sounds like it is more empty, but its not really due to a lack of layers, its the producer using those layers in a far more subdued fashion to create a track with more space and less noise.

you're exactly right and that's a great description of minimal tech house. i had a hard time explaining what i meant. I guess a better description would be "thick and heavy" tunes rather than number of layers.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Personally, I just call it handbag house... That leftfield is more what people would call tech house or techno these days I suspect. I don't even know what the second one is

I just call it gay. Or gurly crap house music. those recommendations you made violate rule A of my original post.

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Originally posted by hasbone yes, this!

close! but no cigar. that track is almost good but then it has that gay shit vocal towards the end "i need a lover tonight". thank you though we're getting closer.

I guess what I'm looking for is melodic hard house that is under 130bpm. I love the old techno from the 90's and early 2000 era but a lot of it was too repetitive and too fast (135bpm+).

here's another example (anyone know the id for this one?):


TDR - Plique is another example but it's not on youtube.

Re: MAXIMAL house music

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Originally posted by stev�sto So I've got plenty of minimal house/minimal techno. I was wondering, what is the most maximal house music. That is to say, what house music is out there that would be the exact opposite of minimal tech house? Lots and lots of layers, percussion, melodies and ... A.) is not gay shit B.) is not electro sounding something along the lines of (and this is totally random and whats avail on youtube): or:

What the hell is Maximal you douchebag....

Maybe too fast, but for me it's something like this (great mix):


or (and I don't give a fuck if anyone calls it "gay")



and

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Maybe too fast, but for me it's something like this (great mix): or (and I don't give a fuck if anyone calls it "gay") and

thanks Trance-MB. You've made a lot of good suggestions in the past. i got Golden girls - Kinetic (Frank De Wulf Remix) from you and also the secret cinema - timeless altitude months ago from you. just so you know the golden girls track worked great for me few months ago, brought the floor back to life, thought you might like to know that. i played the secret cinema in the same set but it definitely did not work, it kinda killed the floor. its at 129bpm but it really needs to be sped up more to work i think. i like these other 2 you've posted here but you're right the first one sounds like 131bpm might be too fast. sometimes i can slow a fast one down and it will work, but they usually have to be consistent "static" tracks with a lot of ryhthm but are repetitive to work when pitched down.

Wise caucasian - sac magique

Sig.

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Originally posted by stev�sto thanks Trance-MB. You've made a lot of good suggestions in the past. i got Golden girls - Kinetic (Frank De Wulf Remix) from you and also the secret cinema - timeless altitude months ago from you. just so you know the golden girls track worked great for me few months ago, brought the floor back to life, thought you might like to know that. i played the secret cinema in the same set but it definitely did not work, it kinda killed the floor. its at 129bpm but it really needs to be sped up more to work i think. i like these other 2 you've posted here but you're right the first one sounds like 131bpm might be too fast. sometimes i can slow a fast one down and it will work, but they usually have to be consistent "static" tracks with a lot of ryhthm but are repetitive to work when pitched down.

Thanks, nice to hear, some over here have a different opinion.....
Most tracks were played a bit faster at clubs in Holland.

I think you should have a listen at the site of the famous Amsterdam iT, which is closed for years. Yes many "gay" stuff, but they had great compilation cd's.
You can have a short listen to all 12 of them over here:

http://www.discotheek.it/it-cd/

What about tracks like this, a little bit up tempo is great to dance:



Or:
Hole in one - Life's too short

Chubby Chunks - Testament One

Natural Born Grooves - Groovebird

SM Trax - Got The Groove

Some tracks of which I didn't find a youtube vid:

Phocus - Don't Stop
Queer - Get up, stand up
The Crown - House Music
Armania - Turn Me On
Sueno Latino feat. Valeria Vix - Noche Diva (Escandalosa Remix)
Amsterdance - You Gotta Feel It

Maybe I'll put some of those at Youtube.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Thanks, nice to hear, some over here have a different opinion..... Most tracks were played a bit faster at clubs in Holland. I think you should have a listen at the site of the famous Amsterdam iT, which is closed for years. Yes many "gay" stuff, but they had great compilation cd's. You can have a short listen to all 12 of them over here: http://www.discotheek.it/it-cd/ What about tracks like this, a little bit up tempo is great to dance: Or: Hole in one - Life's too short Chubby Chunks - Testament One Natural Born Grooves - Groovebird SM Trax - Got The Groove Some tracks of which I didn't find a youtube vid: Phocus - Don't Stop Queer - Get up, stand up The Crown - House Music Armania - Turn Me On Sueno Latino feat. Valeria Vix - Noche Diva (Escandalosa Remix) Amsterdance - You Gotta Feel It Maybe I'll put some of those at Youtube.

chubby one is my fav of those. all of those youtubes are great except the first one is a bit too ravie and too fast for me. 80% of my collection is 123bpm-130bpm. Everytime I throw a 135er dragged down to that range it kills the floor. I algo like SM Trax- Show me something special which i got from you a while back.

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Originally posted by stev�sto chubby one is my fav of those. all of those youtubes are great except the first one is a bit too ravie and too fast for me. 80% of my collection is 123bpm-130bpm. Everytime I throw a 135er dragged down to that range it kills the floor. I algo like SM Trax- Show me something special which i got from you a while back.

Yep, the first one doesn't need any pitching up. Over here that would have the opposite effect.
For the slower one you might need to have a look at older tracks.

I have Chubby Chunks on this one, the last of this great series: Turn Up The Bass 25

Queer - Get Up, Stand Up uses a sample of Chubby Chunks by the way.Strictly Club '97

This is more the speed your look for I guess:

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Yep, the first one doesn't need any pitching up. Over here that would have the opposite effect. For the slower one you might need to have a look at older tracks. I have Chubby Chunks on this one, the last of this great series: Turn Up The Bass 25 Queer - Get Up, Stand Up uses a sample of Chubby Chunks by the way.Strictly Club '97 This is more the speed your look for I guess:

oh yeah of course i have george morel - lets groove. not sure if its part 4 or not, that link sounds faster than the one i have. that one is one of my secret weapons to get a party started. here's another one of my secret weapons that almost always works when i play it:

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Originally posted by chesco Wise caucasian - sac magique

this is good! added. thanks.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Sig

all 3 of those mixes has stuff that is too ... epic. for the rollers in the crowd, i use prog house like:

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Originally posted by stev�sto all 3 of those mixes has stuff that is too ... epic.

It doesn't get more maximal than "epic". It's the complete antithesis of minimal house.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It doesn't get more maximal than "epic". It's the complete antithesis of minimal house.

it is yup i agree. i liked i think maybe the first 1 or 2 songs of the 3rd mix, then it just got too intense for me.

but that made me think ... what house track can claim the title of the most maximal tune ever? sort of like a pitched down psy trance tune or something along those lines.

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Originally posted by stev�sto oh yeah of course i have george morel - lets groove. not sure if its part 4 or not, that link sounds faster than the one i have.

What about this one?

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